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  • D David Wulff

    The most common method of spreading a virus is either over short distances through the air, or through unprotected sex. Goats are another good transmitter, but you’ll have to ask John about that one. David Wulff dwulff@battleaxesoftware.com

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    Tomasz Sowinski
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    But if my eyes are closed during the sexual intercourse, I'm totally safe, right? :-D Tomasz Sowinski -- http://www.shooltz.com

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      Nowadays you can get viruses just by using Outlook/OE. The Nimba virus sends an HTML email containing an <iframe> tag that exploits an Outlook/OE bug, which results in the attachment being hidden from view and automatically run. Yet Another Reason to avoid Outlook/OE. Heck, I use Eudora Light 3 because it's plaintext only. None of this HTML/ActiveX-in-email bullcrap. --Mike-- http://home.inreach.com/mdunn/ Ford: How would you react if I said that I'm not from Guildford after all, but from a small planet somewhere in the vicinity of Betelguese? Arthur: I don't know. Why, do you think it's the sort of thing you're likely to say?

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      Christian Graus
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      Doesn't it depend on your settings though ? I got it sent to me yesterday, and yes, it tried to run, but it just meant I got a 'do you want to open this file or save it to your HDD' message. I know I should stop using Outlook, but I'm used to it ;) Christian As I learn the innermost secrets of the around me, they reward me in many ways to keep quiet. Men with pierced ears are better prepared for marriage. They've experienced pain and bought Jewellery.

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        Doesn't it depend on your settings though ? I got it sent to me yesterday, and yes, it tried to run, but it just meant I got a 'do you want to open this file or save it to your HDD' message. I know I should stop using Outlook, but I'm used to it ;) Christian As I learn the innermost secrets of the around me, they reward me in many ways to keep quiet. Men with pierced ears are better prepared for marriage. They've experienced pain and bought Jewellery.

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        Michael Dunn
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        Doesn't it depend on your settings though? From what you say, it looks like it does depend on settings. I wouldn't know for sure, not being an Outlook user and all. ;) --Mike-- http://home.inreach.com/mdunn/ Ford: How would you react if I said that I'm not from Guildford after all, but from a small planet somewhere in the vicinity of Betelguese? Arthur: I don't know. Why, do you think it's the sort of thing you're likely to say?

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          Doesn't it depend on your settings though? From what you say, it looks like it does depend on settings. I wouldn't know for sure, not being an Outlook user and all. ;) --Mike-- http://home.inreach.com/mdunn/ Ford: How would you react if I said that I'm not from Guildford after all, but from a small planet somewhere in the vicinity of Betelguese? Arthur: I don't know. Why, do you think it's the sort of thing you're likely to say?

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          Christian Graus
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          I'm hoping so - I was asking for my own peace of mind. It was a bit of a shock to realise that the email was launching the virus, and I am assuming I am uninfected, but as I have no virus software, I can't really be sure until my system dies. Christian As I learn the innermost secrets of the around me, they reward me in many ways to keep quiet. Men with pierced ears are better prepared for marriage. They've experienced pain and bought Jewellery.

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            Nowadays you can get viruses just by using Outlook/OE. The Nimba virus sends an HTML email containing an <iframe> tag that exploits an Outlook/OE bug, which results in the attachment being hidden from view and automatically run. Yet Another Reason to avoid Outlook/OE. Heck, I use Eudora Light 3 because it's plaintext only. None of this HTML/ActiveX-in-email bullcrap. --Mike-- http://home.inreach.com/mdunn/ Ford: How would you react if I said that I'm not from Guildford after all, but from a small planet somewhere in the vicinity of Betelguese? Arthur: I don't know. Why, do you think it's the sort of thing you're likely to say?

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            Andrew Peace
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            I avoid a lot of crap by setting the security zone for HTML mail to Restricted Sites in the settings for Outlook. > Andrew

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            • J Josh Knox

              Are viruses such as those currently going around spread through email attachments, or are there other common ways of distributing them? Josh josh@that-guy.net

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              Ghazi H Wadi
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              Assuming we are talking about the "Nimda" Worm. not the flu. :) There are two ways : Email The worm spreads via email by sending a copy of itself within a mail that exploits the security vulnerability discussed in Microsoft Security Bulletin MS01-020. As the bulletin describes, the vulnerability lies in Internet Explorer, but can be exploited via email. Simply opening the email itself would be sufficient to infect the machine – it would not be necessary to open an attachment. Web Servers: When the worm attacks IIS 4.0 and 5.0 Web servers, it does so through either of two means. First, it checks to see if the computer was previously compromised by the Code Red II worm, which creates a "back door" that any malicious user can use later to gain control of the system. If the Nimda worm finds such a computer, it simply uses the back door created by Code Red II to infect the system. Second, the worm attempts to exploit the "Web Server Folder Traversal" vulnerability. If it succeeds in exploiting this vulnerability, the worm uses it to infect the system Here is the BAD PART

              Infected machines attempt to pass the infection to web servers by either locating an
              already compromised server, or by exploiting a known security vulnerability in Internet
              Information Server. Once infected, a web server will attempt to infect the machines
              of any users that visit it.

              Cheers Alfadhly It is Illogical to define an inventor by his invention

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              • C Christian Graus

                I'm hoping so - I was asking for my own peace of mind. It was a bit of a shock to realise that the email was launching the virus, and I am assuming I am uninfected, but as I have no virus software, I can't really be sure until my system dies. Christian As I learn the innermost secrets of the around me, they reward me in many ways to keep quiet. Men with pierced ears are better prepared for marriage. They've experienced pain and bought Jewellery.

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                Christian go have a look at the Symantec site, it has a link on the front page to information on the virus. You need to look in the system.ini and the %windir%\system directory for a couple of files, if they are there then you have it , if not you don't. I saved the file to disk, scanned it which came up clean so I ran it to see the pretty pictures nothing happened and so far no virii. Michael Martin Pegasystems Pty Ltd Australia martm@pegasystems.com +61 413-004-018 "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone

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                • T Tomasz Sowinski

                  But if my eyes are closed during the sexual intercourse, I'm totally safe, right? :-D Tomasz Sowinski -- http://www.shooltz.com

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                  Only if you are in the UK, also standing on the Yellow Pages is also a known form of birth control. These answers were two of many from a recent survey in the UK of adolescents and methods of birth control. Amazing that people can be so FiretrUCKING stupid and still capable of breathing and walking at the same time. Michael Martin Pegasystems Pty Ltd Australia martm@pegasystems.com +61 413-004-018 "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone

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                    Only if you are in the UK, also standing on the Yellow Pages is also a known form of birth control. These answers were two of many from a recent survey in the UK of adolescents and methods of birth control. Amazing that people can be so FiretrUCKING stupid and still capable of breathing and walking at the same time. Michael Martin Pegasystems Pty Ltd Australia martm@pegasystems.com +61 413-004-018 "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone

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                    Christian Graus
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                    Have you got the list ? Sounds hilarious. I thought closing your eyes was a sign you'd made a bad choice. I'm not sure where the Yellow Pages idea comes from, except that it does not sound comfortable. Christian As I learn the innermost secrets of the around me, they reward me in many ways to keep quiet. Men with pierced ears are better prepared for marriage. They've experienced pain and bought Jewellery.

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                      Only if you are in the UK, also standing on the Yellow Pages is also a known form of birth control. These answers were two of many from a recent survey in the UK of adolescents and methods of birth control. Amazing that people can be so FiretrUCKING stupid and still capable of breathing and walking at the same time. Michael Martin Pegasystems Pty Ltd Australia martm@pegasystems.com +61 413-004-018 "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone

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                      David Wulff
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                      There sure are some thick people out there, and the scarey thing is you really do meet them in the street... :| David Wulff dwulff@battleaxesoftware.com

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                        Have you got the list ? Sounds hilarious. I thought closing your eyes was a sign you'd made a bad choice. I'm not sure where the Yellow Pages idea comes from, except that it does not sound comfortable. Christian As I learn the innermost secrets of the around me, they reward me in many ways to keep quiet. Men with pierced ears are better prepared for marriage. They've experienced pain and bought Jewellery.

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                        Lost User
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                        It's not so much a list as a small article from the Sydney Daily Telegraph. I am trying to organise for the JPEG to reside on a website at the moment so I can start a new thread to entertain our UK brothers. :-D Michael Martin Pegasystems Pty Ltd Australia martm@pegasystems.com +61 413-004-018 "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone

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                          It's not so much a list as a small article from the Sydney Daily Telegraph. I am trying to organise for the JPEG to reside on a website at the moment so I can start a new thread to entertain our UK brothers. :-D Michael Martin Pegasystems Pty Ltd Australia martm@pegasystems.com +61 413-004-018 "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone

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                          Christian Graus
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                          I tried to find it on their website but couldn't, so if you do get a chance to scan it, that would rule. Christian As I learn the innermost secrets of the around me, they reward me in many ways to keep quiet. Men with pierced ears are better prepared for marriage. They've experienced pain and bought Jewellery.

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                            There sure are some thick people out there, and the scarey thing is you really do meet them in the street... :| David Wulff dwulff@battleaxesoftware.com

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                            Christian Graus
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                            Yeah, but I remember you telling us about where you live. Surely not all of England is like that ? Christian As I learn the innermost secrets of the around me, they reward me in many ways to keep quiet. Men with pierced ears are better prepared for marriage. They've experienced pain and bought Jewellery.

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                              Yeah, but I remember you telling us about where you live. Surely not all of England is like that ? Christian As I learn the innermost secrets of the around me, they reward me in many ways to keep quiet. Men with pierced ears are better prepared for marriage. They've experienced pain and bought Jewellery.

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                              Well it's true that Tiverton has more than the usual share of weird people, ranging from flocks of overweight female dwarfs (you have got to seem them to fully appreciate the sick humour) to the incredibly arrogant local Jehovah’s Witness clan who call round at least once a week. That isn’t even counting the people who come up to you in the street and say weird, scary things like: "You have a red hat. I like red. I like you." (Something similar involving a PlayStation game occurred to a friend of mine :eek: ) You should get the picture... While I doubt All of England is like that (Wales is another story), there are bound to be more than just my one town that is plagued with them. David Wulff dwulff@battleaxesoftware.com

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                                Well it's true that Tiverton has more than the usual share of weird people, ranging from flocks of overweight female dwarfs (you have got to seem them to fully appreciate the sick humour) to the incredibly arrogant local Jehovah’s Witness clan who call round at least once a week. That isn’t even counting the people who come up to you in the street and say weird, scary things like: "You have a red hat. I like red. I like you." (Something similar involving a PlayStation game occurred to a friend of mine :eek: ) You should get the picture... While I doubt All of England is like that (Wales is another story), there are bound to be more than just my one town that is plagued with them. David Wulff dwulff@battleaxesoftware.com

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                                "You have a red hat. I like red. I like you." Is it at least a festive time of year with copious quantities of alcohol ingested when this happens or just any given day oof the week? Michael Martin Pegasystems Pty Ltd Australia martm@pegasystems.com +61 413-004-018 "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone

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                                  Well it's true that Tiverton has more than the usual share of weird people, ranging from flocks of overweight female dwarfs (you have got to seem them to fully appreciate the sick humour) to the incredibly arrogant local Jehovah’s Witness clan who call round at least once a week. That isn’t even counting the people who come up to you in the street and say weird, scary things like: "You have a red hat. I like red. I like you." (Something similar involving a PlayStation game occurred to a friend of mine :eek: ) You should get the picture... While I doubt All of England is like that (Wales is another story), there are bound to be more than just my one town that is plagued with them. David Wulff dwulff@battleaxesoftware.com

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                                  Phil Boyd
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                                  Where's the Outlaw Programmer reply? This one is too good to pass up - "You shure have a purty mouth" (spoken with a HEAVY Southern accent). :-D Phil Boyd MCP 1LT(P), AR You may be gone, but we will never forget your sacrifice. "Proud to be an American..." Lee Greenwood

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                                  • M Michael Dunn

                                    Nowadays you can get viruses just by using Outlook/OE. The Nimba virus sends an HTML email containing an <iframe> tag that exploits an Outlook/OE bug, which results in the attachment being hidden from view and automatically run. Yet Another Reason to avoid Outlook/OE. Heck, I use Eudora Light 3 because it's plaintext only. None of this HTML/ActiveX-in-email bullcrap. --Mike-- http://home.inreach.com/mdunn/ Ford: How would you react if I said that I'm not from Guildford after all, but from a small planet somewhere in the vicinity of Betelguese? Arthur: I don't know. Why, do you think it's the sort of thing you're likely to say?

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                                    Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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                                    Yep. Got bitten by that sucker yesterday. McAffe blitzed it though, and now both machines have the latest security patches. Sometimes a day makes all the difference...:rolleyes: Andy Metcalfe - Sonardyne International Ltd
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                                    "Be yourself, not what others want you to be."

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