How much do you trust your code?
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I just got this in the email: a request to use my grid in a commercial app. "am developing an application for use in scripting professional fireworks displays" I don't trust my grid to show me the correct values in my homeloan simulators let alone trust it around 10 tons of high explosives. I don't even trust me around 10 tons of high explosives (I still have some scars to prove this is a valid fear). So it got me wondering: how much trust do you have to, and are willing to, put in your code? cheers, Chris Maunder
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I just got this in the email: a request to use my grid in a commercial app. "am developing an application for use in scripting professional fireworks displays" I don't trust my grid to show me the correct values in my homeloan simulators let alone trust it around 10 tons of high explosives. I don't even trust me around 10 tons of high explosives (I still have some scars to prove this is a valid fear). So it got me wondering: how much trust do you have to, and are willing to, put in your code? cheers, Chris Maunder
Chris Maunder wrote: how much trust do you have to, and are willing to, put in your code? Well, I don't trust my code to guide the space shuttle (assuming it was back in service) or a nuclear reactor but I will trust it in the homeloan simulator... John
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I just got this in the email: a request to use my grid in a commercial app. "am developing an application for use in scripting professional fireworks displays" I don't trust my grid to show me the correct values in my homeloan simulators let alone trust it around 10 tons of high explosives. I don't even trust me around 10 tons of high explosives (I still have some scars to prove this is a valid fear). So it got me wondering: how much trust do you have to, and are willing to, put in your code? cheers, Chris Maunder
I would expect that they would test the application extensively before "wiring" everything up... The past 8 years I have writteen applications that control Airport Landing Systems and have great confidence in them...especially when they passed with all of the required testing (several weeks worth)... Steve
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I just got this in the email: a request to use my grid in a commercial app. "am developing an application for use in scripting professional fireworks displays" I don't trust my grid to show me the correct values in my homeloan simulators let alone trust it around 10 tons of high explosives. I don't even trust me around 10 tons of high explosives (I still have some scars to prove this is a valid fear). So it got me wondering: how much trust do you have to, and are willing to, put in your code? cheers, Chris Maunder
Well implicit in trusting your code is trusting windows! :omg::omg::omg: Surely there are regulations covering this sort of thing. You know like fly by wire, 3 different systems with different hardware and software with a 2 out of 3 voting comparator before anything actually gets pushed!
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I just got this in the email: a request to use my grid in a commercial app. "am developing an application for use in scripting professional fireworks displays" I don't trust my grid to show me the correct values in my homeloan simulators let alone trust it around 10 tons of high explosives. I don't even trust me around 10 tons of high explosives (I still have some scars to prove this is a valid fear). So it got me wondering: how much trust do you have to, and are willing to, put in your code? cheers, Chris Maunder
Chris Maunder wrote: I don't trust my grid to show me the correct values in my homeloan simulators Looks like an update for my trusty homeloan simulator ;) Matt Newman
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I just got this in the email: a request to use my grid in a commercial app. "am developing an application for use in scripting professional fireworks displays" I don't trust my grid to show me the correct values in my homeloan simulators let alone trust it around 10 tons of high explosives. I don't even trust me around 10 tons of high explosives (I still have some scars to prove this is a valid fear). So it got me wondering: how much trust do you have to, and are willing to, put in your code? cheers, Chris Maunder
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I just got this in the email: a request to use my grid in a commercial app. "am developing an application for use in scripting professional fireworks displays" I don't trust my grid to show me the correct values in my homeloan simulators let alone trust it around 10 tons of high explosives. I don't even trust me around 10 tons of high explosives (I still have some scars to prove this is a valid fear). So it got me wondering: how much trust do you have to, and are willing to, put in your code? cheers, Chris Maunder
I understnad what you are saying. I doubt anything of mine has been moved to mission critical systems. And would not reccomend it. Yeah, if I knew someones life was going to depend on future code, I would approach the coding from a different tact. Regardz Colin J Davies
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I just got this in the email: a request to use my grid in a commercial app. "am developing an application for use in scripting professional fireworks displays" I don't trust my grid to show me the correct values in my homeloan simulators let alone trust it around 10 tons of high explosives. I don't even trust me around 10 tons of high explosives (I still have some scars to prove this is a valid fear). So it got me wondering: how much trust do you have to, and are willing to, put in your code? cheers, Chris Maunder
I can honestly say that I'd stake your very life on the stability of my code :) Cheers, Tom Archer Inside C#,
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I can honestly say that I'd stake your very life on the stability of my code :) Cheers, Tom Archer Inside C#,
Extending MFC Applications with the .NET Framework It's better to listen to others than to speak, because I already know what I'm going to say anyway. - friend of Jörgen SigvardssonThat's not saying much for Chr...I mean...uh... Wow Chris! Your life is in good hands! :rolleyes:
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I just got this in the email: a request to use my grid in a commercial app. "am developing an application for use in scripting professional fireworks displays" I don't trust my grid to show me the correct values in my homeloan simulators let alone trust it around 10 tons of high explosives. I don't even trust me around 10 tons of high explosives (I still have some scars to prove this is a valid fear). So it got me wondering: how much trust do you have to, and are willing to, put in your code? cheers, Chris Maunder
Chris Maunder wrote: let alone trust it around 10 tons of high explosives Hmm, good question. Antother question should be: Do you trust windows???? :confused: I trust my code as far as I can see it. I have written an automatic system to recognise fire-alarms for fire-fighters an forward them to mobile-phones (via SMS). Another of my apps is involved in an fire alert system in a parking garage.... so sometimes I trust my code (sometimes...:sigh:)
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I just got this in the email: a request to use my grid in a commercial app. "am developing an application for use in scripting professional fireworks displays" I don't trust my grid to show me the correct values in my homeloan simulators let alone trust it around 10 tons of high explosives. I don't even trust me around 10 tons of high explosives (I still have some scars to prove this is a valid fear). So it got me wondering: how much trust do you have to, and are willing to, put in your code? cheers, Chris Maunder
If written to be mission critical 100%, BUT it depends on the OS in use. Even if it is just a simple hack I am very embarassed if there are any failures.:-O
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I just got this in the email: a request to use my grid in a commercial app. "am developing an application for use in scripting professional fireworks displays" I don't trust my grid to show me the correct values in my homeloan simulators let alone trust it around 10 tons of high explosives. I don't even trust me around 10 tons of high explosives (I still have some scars to prove this is a valid fear). So it got me wondering: how much trust do you have to, and are willing to, put in your code? cheers, Chris Maunder
While I would not stake my code on anything more important than buying a troweling fork, I also would be a bit weary of staking someones life on, lets say, the .NET Framework, or J2EE or Windows for that matter. Can you imagine if half way through the fireworks demo the Office paperclip pops up, interupting a critical timed event, asking "It looks like you are a pyromaniac, do you want me to a: call the firebrigade, b: get more gasoline or c: call the paramedics?"
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I just got this in the email: a request to use my grid in a commercial app. "am developing an application for use in scripting professional fireworks displays" I don't trust my grid to show me the correct values in my homeloan simulators let alone trust it around 10 tons of high explosives. I don't even trust me around 10 tons of high explosives (I still have some scars to prove this is a valid fear). So it got me wondering: how much trust do you have to, and are willing to, put in your code? cheers, Chris Maunder
Chris Maunder wrote: I don't trust my grid to show me the correct values in my homeloan simulators let alone trust it around 10 tons of high explosives. I don't even trust me around 10 tons of high explosives (I still have some scars to prove this is a valid fear). You are right Chris. I don´t trust YOUR code. ;P:-D (Just kidding). I´ve been using your grid for years on many applications. Regards Francisco Viella Silver at last!!
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I just got this in the email: a request to use my grid in a commercial app. "am developing an application for use in scripting professional fireworks displays" I don't trust my grid to show me the correct values in my homeloan simulators let alone trust it around 10 tons of high explosives. I don't even trust me around 10 tons of high explosives (I still have some scars to prove this is a valid fear). So it got me wondering: how much trust do you have to, and are willing to, put in your code? cheers, Chris Maunder
When I was developing life safety systems we couldn't have a critical controller that had programs resident in RAM or reliant on moving parts such as hard drvies.... Rule 1 - check the applicable safety standards, they appear for a good reason. Elaine :rose: The tigress is here :-D
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Chris Maunder wrote: let alone trust it around 10 tons of high explosives Hmm, good question. Antother question should be: Do you trust windows???? :confused: I trust my code as far as I can see it. I have written an automatic system to recognise fire-alarms for fire-fighters an forward them to mobile-phones (via SMS). Another of my apps is involved in an fire alert system in a parking garage.... so sometimes I trust my code (sometimes...:sigh:)
Olli "Ooooooh, they have the internet on computers now!"
Homer Simpson
:beer: + :java: = NULL :=> X|Olli, a serious point. I worked on evacuation systems for 5 years and if you have this on a PC then it doesn't meet european standards for such systems since its a cricital controller X| Check BS5839 and EN54 ! Elaine :rose: The tigress is here :-D
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I just got this in the email: a request to use my grid in a commercial app. "am developing an application for use in scripting professional fireworks displays" I don't trust my grid to show me the correct values in my homeloan simulators let alone trust it around 10 tons of high explosives. I don't even trust me around 10 tons of high explosives (I still have some scars to prove this is a valid fear). So it got me wondering: how much trust do you have to, and are willing to, put in your code? cheers, Chris Maunder
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Olli, a serious point. I worked on evacuation systems for 5 years and if you have this on a PC then it doesn't meet european standards for such systems since its a cricital controller X| Check BS5839 and EN54 ! Elaine :rose: The tigress is here :-D
Trollslayer wrote: since its a cricital controller ... It isn't, thank good, but it's very reliable in fact. The firealarm-system is just additional (we usually have special pagers), I just made it for fun (although it's very usefull and reliable, and it's running under 16bit DOS... ;) ) The other system is only a kind of park and guide system which handels an alert from an (certified) fire alert system and put infos on large scale displays (small pictures of it[^]) But thanks for your hints...
Olli "Ooooooh, they have the internet on computers now!"
Homer Simpson
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I just got this in the email: a request to use my grid in a commercial app. "am developing an application for use in scripting professional fireworks displays" I don't trust my grid to show me the correct values in my homeloan simulators let alone trust it around 10 tons of high explosives. I don't even trust me around 10 tons of high explosives (I still have some scars to prove this is a valid fear). So it got me wondering: how much trust do you have to, and are willing to, put in your code? cheers, Chris Maunder
I trust mine more than I trust the NE American power grid and our Prime Minister. Goes to show how much I trust them ;)
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I just got this in the email: a request to use my grid in a commercial app. "am developing an application for use in scripting professional fireworks displays" I don't trust my grid to show me the correct values in my homeloan simulators let alone trust it around 10 tons of high explosives. I don't even trust me around 10 tons of high explosives (I still have some scars to prove this is a valid fear). So it got me wondering: how much trust do you have to, and are willing to, put in your code? cheers, Chris Maunder
Chris Maunder wrote: how much trust do you have to, and are willing to, put in your code? Lots, given that the stuff I generally work on is responsible for factories and can kill people if it fails.
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Chris Maunder wrote: how much trust do you have to, and are willing to, put in your code? Well, I don't trust my code to guide the space shuttle (assuming it was back in service) or a nuclear reactor but I will trust it in the homeloan simulator... John
LOL, Funny you should mention the Shuttle. I don't post much, but laughed out loud when I read this topic. I was changing jobs around 8 years ago and received a call from a head-hunter. After a few go-rounds, I was offered a nice 6fig plus salary working for a gov contractor. At first he would not tell me what I would be working on, but did after I turned down the offer. Seems I would have been working on the next generation of speed brakes for the shuttle. Cool offer and very lucrative, but I had just had a child, new house and could not make the move to another state. :(( Success is measured by ones ability to mask complexity with simplicity.