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How much do you trust your code?

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  • T Tom Archer

    I can honestly say that I'd stake your very life on the stability of my code :) Cheers, Tom Archer Inside C#,
    Extending MFC Applications with the .NET Framework It's better to listen to others than to speak, because I already know what I'm going to say anyway. - friend of Jörgen Sigvardsson

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    David Stone
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    That's not saying much for Chr...I mean...uh... Wow Chris! Your life is in good hands! :rolleyes:


    youd ebtter bnot be taki8ng agvantage o f my mental abilites!1 -David Wulff one night over MSN while totally plastered

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    • C Chris Maunder

      I just got this in the email: a request to use my grid in a commercial app. "am developing an application for use in scripting professional fireworks displays" I don't trust my grid to show me the correct values in my homeloan simulators let alone trust it around 10 tons of high explosives. I don't even trust me around 10 tons of high explosives (I still have some scars to prove this is a valid fear). So it got me wondering: how much trust do you have to, and are willing to, put in your code? cheers, Chris Maunder

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      Olli
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      Chris Maunder wrote: let alone trust it around 10 tons of high explosives Hmm, good question. Antother question should be: Do you trust windows???? :confused: I trust my code as far as I can see it. I have written an automatic system to recognise fire-alarms for fire-fighters an forward them to mobile-phones (via SMS). Another of my apps is involved in an fire alert system in a parking garage.... so sometimes I trust my code (sometimes...:sigh:)

      Olli "Ooooooh, they have the internet on computers now!"
      Homer Simpson
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      • C Chris Maunder

        I just got this in the email: a request to use my grid in a commercial app. "am developing an application for use in scripting professional fireworks displays" I don't trust my grid to show me the correct values in my homeloan simulators let alone trust it around 10 tons of high explosives. I don't even trust me around 10 tons of high explosives (I still have some scars to prove this is a valid fear). So it got me wondering: how much trust do you have to, and are willing to, put in your code? cheers, Chris Maunder

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        Ted Ferenc
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        If written to be mission critical 100%, BUT it depends on the OS in use. Even if it is just a simple hack I am very embarassed if there are any failures.:-O


        It is amazing what you can accomplish if you do not care who gets the credit. - Harry S Truman

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        • C Chris Maunder

          I just got this in the email: a request to use my grid in a commercial app. "am developing an application for use in scripting professional fireworks displays" I don't trust my grid to show me the correct values in my homeloan simulators let alone trust it around 10 tons of high explosives. I don't even trust me around 10 tons of high explosives (I still have some scars to prove this is a valid fear). So it got me wondering: how much trust do you have to, and are willing to, put in your code? cheers, Chris Maunder

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          Paul Watson
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          While I would not stake my code on anything more important than buying a troweling fork, I also would be a bit weary of staking someones life on, lets say, the .NET Framework, or J2EE or Windows for that matter. Can you imagine if half way through the fireworks demo the Office paperclip pops up, interupting a critical timed event, asking "It looks like you are a pyromaniac, do you want me to a: call the firebrigade, b: get more gasoline or c: call the paramedics?"

          Paul Watson
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          Crikey! ain't life grand?

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          • C Chris Maunder

            I just got this in the email: a request to use my grid in a commercial app. "am developing an application for use in scripting professional fireworks displays" I don't trust my grid to show me the correct values in my homeloan simulators let alone trust it around 10 tons of high explosives. I don't even trust me around 10 tons of high explosives (I still have some scars to prove this is a valid fear). So it got me wondering: how much trust do you have to, and are willing to, put in your code? cheers, Chris Maunder

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            Francisco Viella
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            Chris Maunder wrote: I don't trust my grid to show me the correct values in my homeloan simulators let alone trust it around 10 tons of high explosives. I don't even trust me around 10 tons of high explosives (I still have some scars to prove this is a valid fear). You are right Chris. I don´t trust YOUR code. ;P:-D (Just kidding). I´ve been using your grid for years on many applications. Regards Francisco Viella Silver at last!!

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            • C Chris Maunder

              I just got this in the email: a request to use my grid in a commercial app. "am developing an application for use in scripting professional fireworks displays" I don't trust my grid to show me the correct values in my homeloan simulators let alone trust it around 10 tons of high explosives. I don't even trust me around 10 tons of high explosives (I still have some scars to prove this is a valid fear). So it got me wondering: how much trust do you have to, and are willing to, put in your code? cheers, Chris Maunder

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              Lost User
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              When I was developing life safety systems we couldn't have a critical controller that had programs resident in RAM or reliant on moving parts such as hard drvies.... Rule 1 - check the applicable safety standards, they appear for a good reason. Elaine :rose: The tigress is here :-D

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              • O Olli

                Chris Maunder wrote: let alone trust it around 10 tons of high explosives Hmm, good question. Antother question should be: Do you trust windows???? :confused: I trust my code as far as I can see it. I have written an automatic system to recognise fire-alarms for fire-fighters an forward them to mobile-phones (via SMS). Another of my apps is involved in an fire alert system in a parking garage.... so sometimes I trust my code (sometimes...:sigh:)

                Olli "Ooooooh, they have the internet on computers now!"
                Homer Simpson
                :beer: + :java: = NULL :=> X|

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                Olli, a serious point. I worked on evacuation systems for 5 years and if you have this on a PC then it doesn't meet european standards for such systems since its a cricital controller X| Check BS5839 and EN54 ! Elaine :rose: The tigress is here :-D

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                • C Chris Maunder

                  I just got this in the email: a request to use my grid in a commercial app. "am developing an application for use in scripting professional fireworks displays" I don't trust my grid to show me the correct values in my homeloan simulators let alone trust it around 10 tons of high explosives. I don't even trust me around 10 tons of high explosives (I still have some scars to prove this is a valid fear). So it got me wondering: how much trust do you have to, and are willing to, put in your code? cheers, Chris Maunder

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                  KaRl
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                  It isn't my code I don't trust, it's my testing capacity :)


                  I have always observed that to succeed in the world one should appear like a fool but be wise - Montesquieu

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                    Olli, a serious point. I worked on evacuation systems for 5 years and if you have this on a PC then it doesn't meet european standards for such systems since its a cricital controller X| Check BS5839 and EN54 ! Elaine :rose: The tigress is here :-D

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                    Olli
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                    Trollslayer wrote: since its a cricital controller ... It isn't, thank good, but it's very reliable in fact. The firealarm-system is just additional (we usually have special pagers), I just made it for fun (although it's very usefull and reliable, and it's running under 16bit DOS... ;) ) The other system is only a kind of park and guide system which handels an alert from an (certified) fire alert system and put infos on large scale displays (small pictures of it[^]) But thanks for your hints...

                    Olli "Ooooooh, they have the internet on computers now!"
                    Homer Simpson
                    :beer: + :java: = NULL :=> X|

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                    • C Chris Maunder

                      I just got this in the email: a request to use my grid in a commercial app. "am developing an application for use in scripting professional fireworks displays" I don't trust my grid to show me the correct values in my homeloan simulators let alone trust it around 10 tons of high explosives. I don't even trust me around 10 tons of high explosives (I still have some scars to prove this is a valid fear). So it got me wondering: how much trust do you have to, and are willing to, put in your code? cheers, Chris Maunder

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                      Jon Newman
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                      I trust mine more than I trust the NE American power grid and our Prime Minister. Goes to show how much I trust them ;)


                      "werewnt we going to run off and start a convent on as islandf]"
                      -David Wulff, again on MSN while plastered...

                      Jonathan 'nonny' Newman Homepage [www.nonny.com] [^] Bob Chum Dev site [^]

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                      • C Chris Maunder

                        I just got this in the email: a request to use my grid in a commercial app. "am developing an application for use in scripting professional fireworks displays" I don't trust my grid to show me the correct values in my homeloan simulators let alone trust it around 10 tons of high explosives. I don't even trust me around 10 tons of high explosives (I still have some scars to prove this is a valid fear). So it got me wondering: how much trust do you have to, and are willing to, put in your code? cheers, Chris Maunder

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                        Todd C Wilson
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                        Chris Maunder wrote: how much trust do you have to, and are willing to, put in your code? Lots, given that the stuff I generally work on is responsible for factories and can kill people if it fails.


                        Todd C. Wilson (meme@nopcode.com) NOPcode.com "Flow with whatever may happen and let your mind be free: Stay centered by accepting whatever you are doing. This is the Way." - Chuang-Tzu "Zen in the Martial Arts"

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                        • J John M Drescher

                          Chris Maunder wrote: how much trust do you have to, and are willing to, put in your code? Well, I don't trust my code to guide the space shuttle (assuming it was back in service) or a nuclear reactor but I will trust it in the homeloan simulator... John

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                          Cliff Dabrowski
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                          LOL, Funny you should mention the Shuttle. I don't post much, but laughed out loud when I read this topic. I was changing jobs around 8 years ago and received a call from a head-hunter. After a few go-rounds, I was offered a nice 6fig plus salary working for a gov contractor. At first he would not tell me what I would be working on, but did after I turned down the offer. Seems I would have been working on the next generation of speed brakes for the shuttle. Cool offer and very lucrative, but I had just had a child, new house and could not make the move to another state. :(( Success is measured by ones ability to mask complexity with simplicity.

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                          • C Chris Maunder

                            I just got this in the email: a request to use my grid in a commercial app. "am developing an application for use in scripting professional fireworks displays" I don't trust my grid to show me the correct values in my homeloan simulators let alone trust it around 10 tons of high explosives. I don't even trust me around 10 tons of high explosives (I still have some scars to prove this is a valid fear). So it got me wondering: how much trust do you have to, and are willing to, put in your code? cheers, Chris Maunder

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                            Christopher Duncan
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                            Chris Maunder wrote: So it got me wondering: how much trust do you have to, and are willing to, put in your code? Since I'm writing air traffic control software, I find that nothing raises my awareness of quality control like having to book a flight somewhere. :-) Chistopher Duncan #1 Bestseller - The Career Programmer

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                            • T Tom Archer

                              I can honestly say that I'd stake your very life on the stability of my code :) Cheers, Tom Archer Inside C#,
                              Extending MFC Applications with the .NET Framework It's better to listen to others than to speak, because I already know what I'm going to say anyway. - friend of Jörgen Sigvardsson

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                              Chris Maunder
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                              You're a nasty man Mr Archer :) cheers, Chris Maunder

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                              • C Chris Maunder

                                I just got this in the email: a request to use my grid in a commercial app. "am developing an application for use in scripting professional fireworks displays" I don't trust my grid to show me the correct values in my homeloan simulators let alone trust it around 10 tons of high explosives. I don't even trust me around 10 tons of high explosives (I still have some scars to prove this is a valid fear). So it got me wondering: how much trust do you have to, and are willing to, put in your code? cheers, Chris Maunder

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                                Miszou
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                                I once worked on a PLC Applications and Control system. The first version was written in Windows 3.1 and the version I was working on was an upgrade to 32 bit windows (NT 4). I was told by someone higher up in the company, that the Windows 3.1 version was being used by one company in Eastern Europe to control a nuclear reactor! :eek: :omg:

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                                • C Chris Maunder

                                  I just got this in the email: a request to use my grid in a commercial app. "am developing an application for use in scripting professional fireworks displays" I don't trust my grid to show me the correct values in my homeloan simulators let alone trust it around 10 tons of high explosives. I don't even trust me around 10 tons of high explosives (I still have some scars to prove this is a valid fear). So it got me wondering: how much trust do you have to, and are willing to, put in your code? cheers, Chris Maunder

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                                  Stuart Dootson
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                                  There's a good chance you already have (unknowingly) put your life in my codes hands, MWAHAHAHAHAHA - I write safety-critical jet engine control software....be afraid - be VERY afraid :-) Stuart Dootson 'Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p'

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                                    There's a good chance you already have (unknowingly) put your life in my codes hands, MWAHAHAHAHAHA - I write safety-critical jet engine control software....be afraid - be VERY afraid :-) Stuart Dootson 'Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p'

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                                    Chris Maunder
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                                    I got this reply just as I was about to board a flight from Seattle to Toronto. Thanks. No, really :~ cheers, Chris Maunder

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                                    • C Chris Maunder

                                      I got this reply just as I was about to board a flight from Seattle to Toronto. Thanks. No, really :~ cheers, Chris Maunder

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                                      Stuart Dootson
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                                      Oh, I wouldn't worry about it too much - it's not like we use VB or anything... Stuart Dootson 'Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p'

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