Freedom !
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:doh: I liked this line the best: Generally speaking, the internet is also a place of freedom, because it is built on open protocols which are not in any way patent-encumbered It makes me wonder where these people's heads have been the last 20 years. Open protocols do not in any way shape or form imply that they are not patent encumbered. Many patent cases are against open standards that where specifically designed to be not patent-encumbered but where later to be found to have patent problems. Tim Smith I'm going to patent thought. I have yet to see any prior art.
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An article highlighting the common ground and differences between dotGNU, Mono and .NET would be much more useful, now shoo and be useful :-) (No, I won't write that article myself, that would mean risking my beloved boxen to linux X|;P) -- Ian Darling "The moral of the story is that with a contrived example, you can prove anything." - Joel Spolsky
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It amazes me that linux junkies expect MS to port all there software to other platforms and give them source code, and they keys to the MS cash vaults. I mean for f:omg::wtf::wtf:s sake if you want something open source do it your self. No offense to you, but I'm just tired of people thinking that MS owes everyone the source code to there lively hood. We wouldn't expect GM to give the blueprints and a prototype of a new engine to Ford or Dailmer Chrysler, why the hell should MS have to give everything away. Matt Newman
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Those people have serious problems[^]
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I think these guys need to work on their marketing and presentation. There is nothing about the site that grabbed me and said this is a worthwhile cause and technology. Even if you ignore the bad 'Citizen Smith' opening, the example screenshots on the front page don't sell the possibilities. "Power to the people" Michael 'War is at best barbarism...Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, more vengeance, more desolation. War is hell.' - General William Sherman, 1879
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It amazes me that linux junkies expect MS to port all there software to other platforms and give them source code, and they keys to the MS cash vaults. I mean for f:omg::wtf::wtf:s sake if you want something open source do it your self. No offense to you, but I'm just tired of people thinking that MS owes everyone the source code to there lively hood. We wouldn't expect GM to give the blueprints and a prototype of a new engine to Ford or Dailmer Chrysler, why the hell should MS have to give everything away. Matt Newman
Sonork: 100:11179 "If you're Noah and you're facing the Flood, don't call a lawyer, start building an Ark." - David CunninghamYes, however, utility and local phone companies are often required to open up their lines and systems to competitors. It has to do with being a monopoly. Not saying it's right or wrong... just pointing out a different (and possibly closer) analogy. If your nose runs and your feet smell, then you're built upside down.
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I think these guys need to work on their marketing and presentation. There is nothing about the site that grabbed me and said this is a worthwhile cause and technology. Even if you ignore the bad 'Citizen Smith' opening, the example screenshots on the front page don't sell the possibilities. "Power to the people" Michael 'War is at best barbarism...Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, more vengeance, more desolation. War is hell.' - General William Sherman, 1879
Citizen Smith! Now that takes me back!!
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Yes, however, utility and local phone companies are often required to open up their lines and systems to competitors. It has to do with being a monopoly. Not saying it's right or wrong... just pointing out a different (and possibly closer) analogy. If your nose runs and your feet smell, then you're built upside down.
Navin wrote: (and possibly closer) analogy. I wouldn't say its closer because phone service requires phone lines, dotGNU, for example, does not require .NET to run or as they cliam windows for that matter. Matt Newman
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Yes, however, utility and local phone companies are often required to open up their lines and systems to competitors. It has to do with being a monopoly. Not saying it's right or wrong... just pointing out a different (and possibly closer) analogy. If your nose runs and your feet smell, then you're built upside down.
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I think these guys need to work on their marketing and presentation. There is nothing about the site that grabbed me and said this is a worthwhile cause and technology. Even if you ignore the bad 'Citizen Smith' opening, the example screenshots on the front page don't sell the possibilities. "Power to the people" Michael 'War is at best barbarism...Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, more vengeance, more desolation. War is hell.' - General William Sherman, 1879
Michael P Butler wrote: the example screenshots on the front page don't sell the possibilities. no kidding Matt Newman
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Um, it has more to do with the old government run monopoly and the high cost and waste of creating a new infrastructure to support new systems. Tim Smith I'm going to patent thought. I have yet to see any prior art.
Well, most utilities and phone companies aren't government run. (Although some are.) Usually they are regulated, though, and even when de-regulated, they tend to have to open up their lines to competitors. You could make similar arguments about OSes and infrastructure components. My point is not that Microsoft should or should not have to open up its code... but that it is a legitimate argument. If your nose runs and your feet smell, then you're built upside down.
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I think these guys need to work on their marketing and presentation. There is nothing about the site that grabbed me and said this is a worthwhile cause and technology. Even if you ignore the bad 'Citizen Smith' opening, the example screenshots on the front page don't sell the possibilities. "Power to the people" Michael 'War is at best barbarism...Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, more vengeance, more desolation. War is hell.' - General William Sherman, 1879
They don't need to sell. If they were, they wouldn't have GPLed it. I guess the project is a combined political statement and scratch-my-itch project. -- You still have your old friend Zoidberg. You all have Zoidberg!