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  • T Tim Smith

    I also turn that "feature" off the moment I sit down at a new computer. Tim Smith I'm going to patent thought. I have yet to see any prior art.

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    J Dunlap
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    As do I, and probably most other developers. ;)

    "Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God." - Jesus
    "You must be the change you wish to see in the world." - Mahatma Gandhi

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      As do I, and probably most other developers. ;)

      "Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God." - Jesus
      "You must be the change you wish to see in the world." - Mahatma Gandhi

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      l a u r e n
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      likewise :suss:


      "there is no spoon"
      biz stuff   about me

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      • B Brian Shifrin

        I just spend 4 hours debugging my self-update code to remotly download all patches, update application plus it updates remote databases run export/import and apply sql scripts. It took 2 weeks to write and it has been running w/o glich downloading updates to end customers desktops for months. Until today. All hell broke loose, app was GPFing left and right... I always test my code and test & assert 99.99% of pointers. I tried it on my system with success, but new deployment = crash & burn. It turns out new "InstallShield" expert managed to deploy most files in improved "brian.dll.dll", "settings.xml.xml" or "document.doc.doc" format. Now with window option show file extensions disabled, they looked exactly as real: "settings.xml", even had the right icons etc. Ok, I should have expected this from InstallShield "expert"... Still wasted 4 hours of my life. Why is MS playing games and hidding extensions? Whats is wrong with extensions anyway? Why is this better or frendlier for user to see folder with 5 files all named setup and different icons, instead of setup.exe, setup.dll, setup.ini, etc...? Brian

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        Luther Weeks
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        Brian Shifrin wrote: Why is MS playing games and hidding extensions? Maybe a better question would be, "Why doesn't your code log run-time errors so you can track down problems like this?" :confused:

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          likewise :suss:


          "there is no spoon"
          biz stuff   about me

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          Larry Antram
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          ditto. :-D

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          • L Larry Antram

            ditto. :-D

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            Jon Sagara
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            tritto - on EVERY computer that I use.

            Jon Sagara
            A bottle a night isn't alcoholism - it's persistence! -- A coworker, jokingly

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            • J Jon Sagara

              tritto - on EVERY computer that I use.

              Jon Sagara
              A bottle a night isn't alcoholism - it's persistence! -- A coworker, jokingly

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              David Wulff
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              Yup, even on those I don't too.


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                Brian Shifrin wrote: Why is MS playing games and hidding extensions? Maybe a better question would be, "Why doesn't your code log run-time errors so you can track down problems like this?" :confused:

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                Daniel Turini
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                Because it's easier to blame "M$" for everything. You can do it on anything you choose - from .bat to .net - A customer

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                • D Daniel Turini

                  Because it's easier to blame "M$" for everything. You can do it on anything you choose - from .bat to .net - A customer

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                  Alvaro Mendez
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                  Well, Microsoft is definitely guilty of hiding file extensions by default; a feature which most of us don't like, and which caused Brian to spend more time on the problem than he would have otherwise. Regards, Alvaro


                  Hey! It compiles! Ship it.

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                  • D David Wulff

                    Yup, even on those I don't too.


                    David Wulff The Royal Woofle Museum

                    coolwalkingsmoothtalkingstraightsmokingfirestoking

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                    J Dunlap
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                    David Wulff wrote: even on those I don't too LOL! Same here.

                    "Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God." - Jesus
                    "You must be the change you wish to see in the world." - Mahatma Gandhi

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                    • T Tim Smith

                      I also turn that "feature" off the moment I sit down at a new computer. Tim Smith I'm going to patent thought. I have yet to see any prior art.

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                      peterchen
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                      I turn off "Show Web contents in folders", "hide extensions", "hide system files", "hide hidden files and folders", turn on "full path in adress bar", "title bar", "show compressed files and folders in this beautiful blue", set the current folder to "Details" view, then click "Show folders like current one" when I get to use some stranger's explorer.


                      "Dor säggsische Dialeggt eechnet sich wie keeen onderor für den Ausdrugg zäärdlischor Gefiehle."
                      sighist | Agile Programming | doxygen

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                      • P peterchen

                        I turn off "Show Web contents in folders", "hide extensions", "hide system files", "hide hidden files and folders", turn on "full path in adress bar", "title bar", "show compressed files and folders in this beautiful blue", set the current folder to "Details" view, then click "Show folders like current one" when I get to use some stranger's explorer.


                        "Dor säggsische Dialeggt eechnet sich wie keeen onderor für den Ausdrugg zäärdlischor Gefiehle."
                        sighist | Agile Programming | doxygen

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                        Tim Smith
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                        Bah!!! After I turn on extensions, I just turn on the "show B:omg::omg:BS" option and I don't care anymore. Tim Smith I'm going to patent thought. I have yet to see any prior art.

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                        • P peterchen

                          I turn off "Show Web contents in folders", "hide extensions", "hide system files", "hide hidden files and folders", turn on "full path in adress bar", "title bar", "show compressed files and folders in this beautiful blue", set the current folder to "Details" view, then click "Show folders like current one" when I get to use some stranger's explorer.


                          "Dor säggsische Dialeggt eechnet sich wie keeen onderor für den Ausdrugg zäärdlischor Gefiehle."
                          sighist | Agile Programming | doxygen

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                          Matt Gerrans
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                          Only wimps use Explorer! Ctrl-R, cmd<enter> is all a real programmer needs. And the command shell doesn't lie about file extensions, either. (and "doskey dir=dir /a $*" makes things even more explicit). ;P

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                          • T Tim Smith

                            I also turn that "feature" off the moment I sit down at a new computer. Tim Smith I'm going to patent thought. I have yet to see any prior art.

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                            Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                            That and "Detailed lists" is a must. -- You still have your old friend Zoidberg. You all have Zoidberg!

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                            • M Matt Gerrans

                              Only wimps use Explorer! Ctrl-R, cmd<enter> is all a real programmer needs. And the command shell doesn't lie about file extensions, either. (and "doskey dir=dir /a $*" makes things even more explicit). ;P

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                              Stefan Pedersen
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                              WIMPS! dd if=/dev/hda1 of=/dev/console bs=1M bc= It's the only way to browse Win folders (Ok, so it might require an extra UN*X installation but what the heck, I need the detail!).

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                              • D Daniel Turini

                                Because it's easier to blame "M$" for everything. You can do it on anything you choose - from .bat to .net - A customer

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                                Lost User
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                                Another blind, knee-jerk defense of everything MS, no matter how obviously stupid. Baaa-aa-aaah!

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                                • D David Wulff

                                  Yup, even on those I don't too.


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                                  coolwalkingsmoothtalkingstraightsmokingfirestoking

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                                  Jim Crafton
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                                  Wow, I guess I do as well - I feel like such a lemming now... I think I'm gonna go and turn...them..all back ON! Yeah, now I feel like more a rebel... :) ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned

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                                  • T Tim Smith

                                    Bah!!! After I turn on extensions, I just turn on the "show B:omg::omg:BS" option and I don't care anymore. Tim Smith I'm going to patent thought. I have yet to see any prior art.

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                                    Jim Crafton
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                                    Hey could you write an article on how to do this - I can't seem to find this option... ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned

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                                    • M Matt Gerrans

                                      Only wimps use Explorer! Ctrl-R, cmd<enter> is all a real programmer needs. And the command shell doesn't lie about file extensions, either. (and "doskey dir=dir /a $*" makes things even more explicit). ;P

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                                      Jim Crafton
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                                      no no no BASH is all you need. cmd.exe is for noobs... ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned

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                                      • J J Dunlap

                                        David Wulff wrote: even on those I don't too LOL! Same here.

                                        "Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God." - Jesus
                                        "You must be the change you wish to see in the world." - Mahatma Gandhi

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                                        Lost User
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                                        Same here ;P Paul ;)

                                        That demands capital punishment!! Death by a herd of marauding Bobs! - Ryan Binns

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                                        • T Tim Smith

                                          I also turn that "feature" off the moment I sit down at a new computer. Tim Smith I'm going to patent thought. I have yet to see any prior art.

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                                          Ian Darling
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                                          Tim Smith wrote: I also turn that "feature" off the moment I sit down at a new computer. I know what you mean - what does drive me nuts is you can't turn it off at all on Pocket PC AFAIK. -- Ian Darling "The moral of the story is that with a contrived example, you can prove anything." - Joel Spolsky

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