Passort on CodeProject?
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Chris, Don't know if this has been brought up or not, I'm sure it has, but has there been any thought on using Passport for CodeProject? Just curious. Jason Gerard, Master of Kung Foo
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Chris, Don't know if this has been brought up or not, I'm sure it has, but has there been any thought on using Passport for CodeProject? Just curious. Jason Gerard, Master of Kung Foo
On this subject can someone please explain the licencing and use issues around Passport? From what I have read on the Passport site whoever implements Passport has to pay fees and have a business account with Microsoft and blah, blah, blah blah blah! Even a developer just testing it out has to have these things. Please tell me I am wrong! But if I am right then I think there is your answer Jason. Unless of course we all cough up some money for Chris to use to get Passport :-D regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "We would accomplish many more things if we did not think of them as impossible." - Chretien Malesherbes
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Chris, Don't know if this has been brought up or not, I'm sure it has, but has there been any thought on using Passport for CodeProject? Just curious. Jason Gerard, Master of Kung Foo
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Chris, Don't know if this has been brought up or not, I'm sure it has, but has there been any thought on using Passport for CodeProject? Just curious. Jason Gerard, Master of Kung Foo
I don't think that is high on Chris's agenda for CodeProject right now, until he starts charging per *moderated* (removed) post. But, if a test server existed for passport, it would have been easy to try a few things out. It may not be a big thing for Microsoft to do that. Everyone who is interested in the security of Passport could try breaking in to the test server as well (without any legal implications). May be MS should also setup a Windows based site running all MS server products in its most robust form and make a security challenge for money, like RSA did with its encryption. They could uncover a lot of bugs. Also serves another purpose - provides the 'virus writers' to contribute to the computing world by exposing weaknesses and help fix them and make some money in the process. This could lead to lesser viruses maybe, since many virus writers are supposed to be doing it as a challenge and letting others know how *cool* they are. Give them a target and some incentives and we may have a win-win situation. -Thomas
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I don't think that is high on Chris's agenda for CodeProject right now, until he starts charging per *moderated* (removed) post. But, if a test server existed for passport, it would have been easy to try a few things out. It may not be a big thing for Microsoft to do that. Everyone who is interested in the security of Passport could try breaking in to the test server as well (without any legal implications). May be MS should also setup a Windows based site running all MS server products in its most robust form and make a security challenge for money, like RSA did with its encryption. They could uncover a lot of bugs. Also serves another purpose - provides the 'virus writers' to contribute to the computing world by exposing weaknesses and help fix them and make some money in the process. This could lead to lesser viruses maybe, since many virus writers are supposed to be doing it as a challenge and letting others know how *cool* they are. Give them a target and some incentives and we may have a win-win situation. -Thomas
provides the 'virus writers' to contribute to the computing world by exposing weaknesses and help fix them and make some money in the process. This could lead to lesser viruses maybe, since many virus writers are supposed to be doing it as a challenge and letting others know how *cool* they are. Give them a target and some incentives and we may have a win-win situation. sounds like a movie I have watched way too many times. Quite a few virus writers have actually been hired after their subsequent sentences by big corporates for that very purpose. As for your other ideas yes they would be great but then companies would have to stop being big bullshitters and start telling the truth about their products. i.e. MS would be admiting that IIS is not perfect and that they need the help of others to find its holes. Same with Apache and iPlanet etc. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "We would accomplish many more things if we did not think of them as impossible." - Chretien Malesherbes
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I for one would like it if every blinking website used one central logon service. If it be Passport then fine, but anything will do. I keep forgetting all my passwords to all those pron sites ;P But why should Chris do it? Well, barring the fact that it is a lower than low priority and that his time is already at a premium, it would be a useful service and it would be further affiliating ourselves with Microsoft. Oh and it would really piss off all the linux and anti-MS people :-D regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "We would accomplish many more things if we did not think of them as impossible." - Chretien Malesherbes
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I for one would like it if every blinking website used one central logon service. If it be Passport then fine, but anything will do. I keep forgetting all my passwords to all those pron sites ;P But why should Chris do it? Well, barring the fact that it is a lower than low priority and that his time is already at a premium, it would be a useful service and it would be further affiliating ourselves with Microsoft. Oh and it would really piss off all the linux and anti-MS people :-D regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "We would accomplish many more things if we did not think of them as impossible." - Chretien Malesherbes
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On this subject can someone please explain the licencing and use issues around Passport? From what I have read on the Passport site whoever implements Passport has to pay fees and have a business account with Microsoft and blah, blah, blah blah blah! Even a developer just testing it out has to have these things. Please tell me I am wrong! But if I am right then I think there is your answer Jason. Unless of course we all cough up some money for Chris to use to get Passport :-D regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "We would accomplish many more things if we did not think of them as impossible." - Chretien Malesherbes
"You are wrong." I don't know if you are or not, but you did ask nicely.
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David Wulff dwulff@battleaxesoftware.com
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"You are wrong." I don't know if you are or not, but you did ask nicely.
:bob: -=:bob:=-
David Wulff dwulff@battleaxesoftware.com
Cool signature. Chris: What about an additional smiliey :bob: ? -- See me: www.magerquark.de Want a job? www.zeta-software.de/jobs
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Cool signature. Chris: What about an additional smiliey :bob: ? -- See me: www.magerquark.de Want a job? www.zeta-software.de/jobs
oh! I see, undocumented but working: : bob : is :bob: :-) -- See me: www.magerquark.de Want a job? www.zeta-software.de/jobs
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You better burn all your credit cards and store loyalty cards now. Please, why do people constantly recite this garbage? If anybody wanted to trace you, they can do so easily now if they put their mind to it. Just think of all the personal information your postman knows about you and what you buy, where you shop, etc. And do you complain about the PO having control over a lot of your personal data? Nowadays, when you shop at Tescos (a supermarket) all other companies in the same 'company group' get access to your purchase information. It's the same wiht banks. Why do these people assume that everybody is out to get them? People like you are normally paraniod because they have a reason to be, i.e. they are doing something illegal (or otherwise 'wrong'). Microsoft Product Activation is a prime example of this... The majority of those complaining - by far - are those who are using Microsoft products illegally. You can always corner them in a conversation (or "hunt" as I call them seeing as I go for blood), and they'll result to mindless namecalling to try to win. Hmm... Sounds like Roger ;).
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David Wulff dwulff@battleaxesoftware.com
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Cool signature. Chris: What about an additional smiliey :bob: ? -- See me: www.magerquark.de Want a job? www.zeta-software.de/jobs
Thanks. You should have seen it a couple of days ago when I was designing it... It had a cool drop shaddow and inline CSS scripting events (er yeah) that flipped the text whenever you moved the most over the reflection. I removed all that after I discovered it merged all of the posts in-between mine into one gigantic post. Luckily I got it all cleared up before many people saw it. :-O
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David Wulff dwulff@battleaxesoftware.com
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oh! I see, undocumented but working: : bob : is :bob: :-) -- See me: www.magerquark.de Want a job? www.zeta-software.de/jobs
:bob: :love: :vegemite: How about these then? David Wulff dwulff@battleaxesoftware.com
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:bob: :love: :vegemite: How about these then? David Wulff dwulff@battleaxesoftware.com
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OMG!!!!! stop it...my head.....its GOING TO EXPLODE!!!!!!! You have to much spare time. Do you test these out in some unused forum, or get lucky first time? Giles
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OMG!!!!! stop it...my head.....its GOING TO EXPLODE!!!!!!! You have to much spare time. Do you test these out in some unused forum, or get lucky first time? Giles
Do you test these out in some unused forum, or get lucky first time? If you look carefully, you'll see a small button titled "Preview" when you are entering your message. I just keep doing that till i get it right.
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David Wulff dwulff@battleaxesoftware.com
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You better burn all your credit cards and store loyalty cards now. Please, why do people constantly recite this garbage? If anybody wanted to trace you, they can do so easily now if they put their mind to it. Just think of all the personal information your postman knows about you and what you buy, where you shop, etc. And do you complain about the PO having control over a lot of your personal data? Nowadays, when you shop at Tescos (a supermarket) all other companies in the same 'company group' get access to your purchase information. It's the same wiht banks. Why do these people assume that everybody is out to get them? People like you are normally paraniod because they have a reason to be, i.e. they are doing something illegal (or otherwise 'wrong'). Microsoft Product Activation is a prime example of this... The majority of those complaining - by far - are those who are using Microsoft products illegally. You can always corner them in a conversation (or "hunt" as I call them seeing as I go for blood), and they'll result to mindless namecalling to try to win. Hmm... Sounds like Roger ;).
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David Wulff dwulff@battleaxesoftware.com
I know that there is a lot of people doing wrong things that do not want to be caught. It's a common misconcept that online privacy is about "doing wrong or nasty things". When I go to my bathroom, I am not doing anything wrong, but I would not like a camera, even if the person who is monitoring my piss do not know me. The same way, there is nothing wrong in pissing, but if someone was monitoring the ammount of piss you do each time you go to the bathroom, I think you would be pissed. Well, where is the limit ? What kind of activity you would be confortable to be monitored ? And your friend ? The limits are equal ? Is potentialy wrong behavior worth of monitoring or just wrong behavior ? PS: I use Passport and like it, leave cookies enabled and don't care if I am traced, but I can understand people who cares. And excuse me about the piss thing (specially if you are eating or drinking beer in front of computer), but I thought on it as a good example. :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: Furor fit laesa saepius patientia
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I know that there is a lot of people doing wrong things that do not want to be caught. It's a common misconcept that online privacy is about "doing wrong or nasty things". When I go to my bathroom, I am not doing anything wrong, but I would not like a camera, even if the person who is monitoring my piss do not know me. The same way, there is nothing wrong in pissing, but if someone was monitoring the ammount of piss you do each time you go to the bathroom, I think you would be pissed. Well, where is the limit ? What kind of activity you would be confortable to be monitored ? And your friend ? The limits are equal ? Is potentialy wrong behavior worth of monitoring or just wrong behavior ? PS: I use Passport and like it, leave cookies enabled and don't care if I am traced, but I can understand people who cares. And excuse me about the piss thing (specially if you are eating or drinking beer in front of computer), but I thought on it as a good example. :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: Furor fit laesa saepius patientia
OMG The sigs just keep getting better and errr..... well, yeah ;). Hmmm..... Andrew.
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I know that there is a lot of people doing wrong things that do not want to be caught. It's a common misconcept that online privacy is about "doing wrong or nasty things". When I go to my bathroom, I am not doing anything wrong, but I would not like a camera, even if the person who is monitoring my piss do not know me. The same way, there is nothing wrong in pissing, but if someone was monitoring the ammount of piss you do each time you go to the bathroom, I think you would be pissed. Well, where is the limit ? What kind of activity you would be confortable to be monitored ? And your friend ? The limits are equal ? Is potentialy wrong behavior worth of monitoring or just wrong behavior ? PS: I use Passport and like it, leave cookies enabled and don't care if I am traced, but I can understand people who cares. And excuse me about the piss thing (specially if you are eating or drinking beer in front of computer), but I thought on it as a good example. :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: Furor fit laesa saepius patientia
You just had to get one up on my signature didn't you? Even if you don't have antialiased shimmering reflections. :-D Now I'll have to think of the next "ultimate signature"... The same way, there is nothing wrong in pissing, but if someone was monitoring the ammount of piss you do each time you go to the bathroom, I think you would be pissed. I'd be a little surprised anyone would want to take the time to monitor my urinary turnaround and analyse the output, but it wouldn't bother me. If someone finds my piss useful, then good for them. Who am I to deprive them? ;) What an interesting idea: Microsoft Pissport. As to the serious gist of your post, I understand what you mean, but we are talking specifically about Passport here. Passport itself doesn't monitor anything like that - if it did the data would be useless anway, and require vast resources to analyse it. The individual sites can (and probably do) monitor thier users. The last website I built tracks the visitors (using the client IP address, UA, etc, to distinguish them) so I can view the logs every now and again and see which pages people are visiting; how long they stayed there for; what page they left on; etc. This is imensly useful data when it comes to seeing if, say, the site is easy to navigate, or which sites the user arrives from, so I could increase advertising there. Although the data is not anonymous, I don't use it for anything over than improving the wesbite. All this is stated in the privacy policy. People must remember that there are more desirable beneits for them from the assimilation and use of such data, than there are negative ones. Anyway, I'm tired and it's my birthday in 30 mins, so I'm off to get plastered down the Hare and Hound! :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :v
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You just had to get one up on my signature didn't you? Even if you don't have antialiased shimmering reflections. :-D Now I'll have to think of the next "ultimate signature"... The same way, there is nothing wrong in pissing, but if someone was monitoring the ammount of piss you do each time you go to the bathroom, I think you would be pissed. I'd be a little surprised anyone would want to take the time to monitor my urinary turnaround and analyse the output, but it wouldn't bother me. If someone finds my piss useful, then good for them. Who am I to deprive them? ;) What an interesting idea: Microsoft Pissport. As to the serious gist of your post, I understand what you mean, but we are talking specifically about Passport here. Passport itself doesn't monitor anything like that - if it did the data would be useless anway, and require vast resources to analyse it. The individual sites can (and probably do) monitor thier users. The last website I built tracks the visitors (using the client IP address, UA, etc, to distinguish them) so I can view the logs every now and again and see which pages people are visiting; how long they stayed there for; what page they left on; etc. This is imensly useful data when it comes to seeing if, say, the site is easy to navigate, or which sites the user arrives from, so I could increase advertising there. Although the data is not anonymous, I don't use it for anything over than improving the wesbite. All this is stated in the privacy policy. People must remember that there are more desirable beneits for them from the assimilation and use of such data, than there are negative ones. Anyway, I'm tired and it's my birthday in 30 mins, so I'm off to get plastered down the Hare and Hound! :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :v
I've created a monster :eek: cheers, Chris Maunder (CodeProject)