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  • P Paul Watson

    I for one would like it if every blinking website used one central logon service. If it be Passport then fine, but anything will do. I keep forgetting all my passwords to all those pron sites ;P But why should Chris do it? Well, barring the fact that it is a lower than low priority and that his time is already at a premium, it would be a useful service and it would be further affiliating ourselves with Microsoft. Oh and it would really piss off all the linux and anti-MS people :-D regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "We would accomplish many more things if we did not think of them as impossible." - Chretien Malesherbes

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    joefor
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    Sure, and it makes it easier for you to be tracked & hacked, too!

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      On this subject can someone please explain the licencing and use issues around Passport? From what I have read on the Passport site whoever implements Passport has to pay fees and have a business account with Microsoft and blah, blah, blah blah blah! Even a developer just testing it out has to have these things. Please tell me I am wrong! But if I am right then I think there is your answer Jason. Unless of course we all cough up some money for Chris to use to get Passport :-D regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "We would accomplish many more things if we did not think of them as impossible." - Chretien Malesherbes

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      David Wulff
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      "You are wrong." I don't know if you are or not, but you did ask nicely.

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        "You are wrong." I don't know if you are or not, but you did ask nicely.

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        David Wulff dwulff@battleaxesoftware.com

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        Uwe Keim
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        Cool signature. Chris: What about an additional smiliey :bob: ? -- See me: www.magerquark.de Want a job? www.zeta-software.de/jobs

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          Cool signature. Chris: What about an additional smiliey :bob: ? -- See me: www.magerquark.de Want a job? www.zeta-software.de/jobs

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          Uwe Keim
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          oh! I see, undocumented but working: : bob : is :bob: :-) -- See me: www.magerquark.de Want a job? www.zeta-software.de/jobs

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          • J joefor

            Sure, and it makes it easier for you to be tracked & hacked, too!

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            David Wulff
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            You better burn all your credit cards and store loyalty cards now. Please, why do people constantly recite this garbage? If anybody wanted to trace you, they can do so easily now if they put their mind to it. Just think of all the personal information your postman knows about you and what you buy, where you shop, etc. And do you complain about the PO having control over a lot of your personal data? Nowadays, when you shop at Tescos (a supermarket) all other companies in the same 'company group' get access to your purchase information. It's the same wiht banks. Why do these people assume that everybody is out to get them? People like you are normally paraniod because they have a reason to be, i.e. they are doing something illegal (or otherwise 'wrong'). Microsoft Product Activation is a prime example of this... The majority of those complaining - by far - are those who are using Microsoft products illegally. You can always corner them in a conversation (or "hunt" as I call them seeing as I go for blood), and they'll result to mindless namecalling to try to win. Hmm... Sounds like Roger ;).

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              Cool signature. Chris: What about an additional smiliey :bob: ? -- See me: www.magerquark.de Want a job? www.zeta-software.de/jobs

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              Thanks. You should have seen it a couple of days ago when I was designing it... It had a cool drop shaddow and inline CSS scripting events (er yeah) that flipped the text whenever you moved the most over the reflection. I removed all that after I discovered it merged all of the posts in-between mine into one gigantic post. Luckily I got it all cleared up before many people saw it. :-O

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              David Wulff dwulff@battleaxesoftware.com

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              • U Uwe Keim

                oh! I see, undocumented but working: : bob : is :bob: :-) -- See me: www.magerquark.de Want a job? www.zeta-software.de/jobs

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                David Wulff
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                :bob: :love: :vegemite: How about these then? David Wulff dwulff@battleaxesoftware.com

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                • D David Wulff

                  :bob: :love: :vegemite: How about these then? David Wulff dwulff@battleaxesoftware.com

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                  Giles
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                  OMG!!!!! stop it...my head.....its GOING TO EXPLODE!!!!!!! You have to much spare time. Do you test these out in some unused forum, or get lucky first time? Giles

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                    OMG!!!!! stop it...my head.....its GOING TO EXPLODE!!!!!!! You have to much spare time. Do you test these out in some unused forum, or get lucky first time? Giles

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                    Take pictures. Tim Smith Descartes Systems Sciences, Inc.

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                      OMG!!!!! stop it...my head.....its GOING TO EXPLODE!!!!!!! You have to much spare time. Do you test these out in some unused forum, or get lucky first time? Giles

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                      David Wulff
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                      Do you test these out in some unused forum, or get lucky first time? If you look carefully, you'll see a small button titled "Preview" when you are entering your message. I just keep doing that till i get it right.

                      :bob: -=:bob:=-

                      David Wulff dwulff@battleaxesoftware.com

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                      • D David Wulff

                        You better burn all your credit cards and store loyalty cards now. Please, why do people constantly recite this garbage? If anybody wanted to trace you, they can do so easily now if they put their mind to it. Just think of all the personal information your postman knows about you and what you buy, where you shop, etc. And do you complain about the PO having control over a lot of your personal data? Nowadays, when you shop at Tescos (a supermarket) all other companies in the same 'company group' get access to your purchase information. It's the same wiht banks. Why do these people assume that everybody is out to get them? People like you are normally paraniod because they have a reason to be, i.e. they are doing something illegal (or otherwise 'wrong'). Microsoft Product Activation is a prime example of this... The majority of those complaining - by far - are those who are using Microsoft products illegally. You can always corner them in a conversation (or "hunt" as I call them seeing as I go for blood), and they'll result to mindless namecalling to try to win. Hmm... Sounds like Roger ;).

                        :bob: -=:bob:=-

                        David Wulff dwulff@battleaxesoftware.com

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                        Daniel Turini
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                        I know that there is a lot of people doing wrong things that do not want to be caught. It's a common misconcept that online privacy is about "doing wrong or nasty things". When I go to my bathroom, I am not doing anything wrong, but I would not like a camera, even if the person who is monitoring my piss do not know me. The same way, there is nothing wrong in pissing, but if someone was monitoring the ammount of piss you do each time you go to the bathroom, I think you would be pissed. Well, where is the limit ? What kind of activity you would be confortable to be monitored ? And your friend ? The limits are equal ? Is potentialy wrong behavior worth of monitoring or just wrong behavior ? PS: I use Passport and like it, leave cookies enabled and don't care if I am traced, but I can understand people who cares. And excuse me about the piss thing (specially if you are eating or drinking beer in front of computer), but I thought on it as a good example. :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: Furor fit laesa saepius patientia

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                          I know that there is a lot of people doing wrong things that do not want to be caught. It's a common misconcept that online privacy is about "doing wrong or nasty things". When I go to my bathroom, I am not doing anything wrong, but I would not like a camera, even if the person who is monitoring my piss do not know me. The same way, there is nothing wrong in pissing, but if someone was monitoring the ammount of piss you do each time you go to the bathroom, I think you would be pissed. Well, where is the limit ? What kind of activity you would be confortable to be monitored ? And your friend ? The limits are equal ? Is potentialy wrong behavior worth of monitoring or just wrong behavior ? PS: I use Passport and like it, leave cookies enabled and don't care if I am traced, but I can understand people who cares. And excuse me about the piss thing (specially if you are eating or drinking beer in front of computer), but I thought on it as a good example. :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: Furor fit laesa saepius patientia

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                          Andrew Peace
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                          OMG The sigs just keep getting better and errr..... well, yeah ;). Hmmm..... Andrew.

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                            I know that there is a lot of people doing wrong things that do not want to be caught. It's a common misconcept that online privacy is about "doing wrong or nasty things". When I go to my bathroom, I am not doing anything wrong, but I would not like a camera, even if the person who is monitoring my piss do not know me. The same way, there is nothing wrong in pissing, but if someone was monitoring the ammount of piss you do each time you go to the bathroom, I think you would be pissed. Well, where is the limit ? What kind of activity you would be confortable to be monitored ? And your friend ? The limits are equal ? Is potentialy wrong behavior worth of monitoring or just wrong behavior ? PS: I use Passport and like it, leave cookies enabled and don't care if I am traced, but I can understand people who cares. And excuse me about the piss thing (specially if you are eating or drinking beer in front of computer), but I thought on it as a good example. :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: Furor fit laesa saepius patientia

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                            David Wulff
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                            You just had to get one up on my signature didn't you? Even if you don't have antialiased shimmering reflections. :-D Now I'll have to think of the next "ultimate signature"... The same way, there is nothing wrong in pissing, but if someone was monitoring the ammount of piss you do each time you go to the bathroom, I think you would be pissed. I'd be a little surprised anyone would want to take the time to monitor my urinary turnaround and analyse the output, but it wouldn't bother me. If someone finds my piss useful, then good for them. Who am I to deprive them? ;) What an interesting idea: Microsoft Pissport. As to the serious gist of your post, I understand what you mean, but we are talking specifically about Passport here. Passport itself doesn't monitor anything like that - if it did the data would be useless anway, and require vast resources to analyse it. The individual sites can (and probably do) monitor thier users. The last website I built tracks the visitors (using the client IP address, UA, etc, to distinguish them) so I can view the logs every now and again and see which pages people are visiting; how long they stayed there for; what page they left on; etc. This is imensly useful data when it comes to seeing if, say, the site is easy to navigate, or which sites the user arrives from, so I could increase advertising there. Although the data is not anonymous, I don't use it for anything over than improving the wesbite. All this is stated in the privacy policy. People must remember that there are more desirable beneits for them from the assimilation and use of such data, than there are negative ones. Anyway, I'm tired and it's my birthday in 30 mins, so I'm off to get plastered down the Hare and Hound! :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :v

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                              You just had to get one up on my signature didn't you? Even if you don't have antialiased shimmering reflections. :-D Now I'll have to think of the next "ultimate signature"... The same way, there is nothing wrong in pissing, but if someone was monitoring the ammount of piss you do each time you go to the bathroom, I think you would be pissed. I'd be a little surprised anyone would want to take the time to monitor my urinary turnaround and analyse the output, but it wouldn't bother me. If someone finds my piss useful, then good for them. Who am I to deprive them? ;) What an interesting idea: Microsoft Pissport. As to the serious gist of your post, I understand what you mean, but we are talking specifically about Passport here. Passport itself doesn't monitor anything like that - if it did the data would be useless anway, and require vast resources to analyse it. The individual sites can (and probably do) monitor thier users. The last website I built tracks the visitors (using the client IP address, UA, etc, to distinguish them) so I can view the logs every now and again and see which pages people are visiting; how long they stayed there for; what page they left on; etc. This is imensly useful data when it comes to seeing if, say, the site is easy to navigate, or which sites the user arrives from, so I could increase advertising there. Although the data is not anonymous, I don't use it for anything over than improving the wesbite. All this is stated in the privacy policy. People must remember that there are more desirable beneits for them from the assimilation and use of such data, than there are negative ones. Anyway, I'm tired and it's my birthday in 30 mins, so I'm off to get plastered down the Hare and Hound! :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :v

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                              Chris Maunder
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                              I've created a monster :eek: cheers, Chris Maunder (CodeProject)

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                                You just had to get one up on my signature didn't you? Even if you don't have antialiased shimmering reflections. :-D Now I'll have to think of the next "ultimate signature"... The same way, there is nothing wrong in pissing, but if someone was monitoring the ammount of piss you do each time you go to the bathroom, I think you would be pissed. I'd be a little surprised anyone would want to take the time to monitor my urinary turnaround and analyse the output, but it wouldn't bother me. If someone finds my piss useful, then good for them. Who am I to deprive them? ;) What an interesting idea: Microsoft Pissport. As to the serious gist of your post, I understand what you mean, but we are talking specifically about Passport here. Passport itself doesn't monitor anything like that - if it did the data would be useless anway, and require vast resources to analyse it. The individual sites can (and probably do) monitor thier users. The last website I built tracks the visitors (using the client IP address, UA, etc, to distinguish them) so I can view the logs every now and again and see which pages people are visiting; how long they stayed there for; what page they left on; etc. This is imensly useful data when it comes to seeing if, say, the site is easy to navigate, or which sites the user arrives from, so I could increase advertising there. Although the data is not anonymous, I don't use it for anything over than improving the wesbite. All this is stated in the privacy policy. People must remember that there are more desirable beneits for them from the assimilation and use of such data, than there are negative ones. Anyway, I'm tired and it's my birthday in 30 mins, so I'm off to get plastered down the Hare and Hound! :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :vegemite: :v

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                                Tim Smith
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                                hmmm, what about bob in that line doing the "can-can" Tim Smith Descartes Systems Sciences, Inc.

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                                • J Jason Gerard

                                  Chris, Don't know if this has been brought up or not, I'm sure it has, but has there been any thought on using Passport for CodeProject? Just curious. Jason Gerard, Master of Kung Foo

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                                  We have looked at using Passport on CP when it was first announced, but the initial docs on how to, like, actually get it working were so obtuse and convoluted that we decided it wasn't worth the pain at that point. Microsoft have just opened up Passport to third parties (sorry - was meant to write a news article about that) and others are providing similar services, so whether this makes the use of Passport a little more plug and play, or whether it defeats the purpose of having one sign-in point will be something time will tell. 'twould be cool tho - at least as an option. cheers, Chris Maunder (CodeProject)

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                                    I've created a monster :eek: cheers, Chris Maunder (CodeProject)

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                                    And you didn't notice the mouseover effect when the line is full of bobs, you point your mouse at them and they change direction (depends on your video card speed)... Without a single line of script... OMG, broadband is good for wasting bandwidth... :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: :bob: Furor fit laesa saepius patientia

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                                      We have looked at using Passport on CP when it was first announced, but the initial docs on how to, like, actually get it working were so obtuse and convoluted that we decided it wasn't worth the pain at that point. Microsoft have just opened up Passport to third parties (sorry - was meant to write a news article about that) and others are providing similar services, so whether this makes the use of Passport a little more plug and play, or whether it defeats the purpose of having one sign-in point will be something time will tell. 'twould be cool tho - at least as an option. cheers, Chris Maunder (CodeProject)

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                                      Paul Watson
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                                      so, bottom line, do you have to pay to use Passport? :-D regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "We would accomplish many more things if we did not think of them as impossible." - Chretien Malesherbes

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                                        so, bottom line, do you have to pay to use Passport? :-D regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "We would accomplish many more things if we did not think of them as impossible." - Chretien Malesherbes

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                                        No, only the "trackees" will have to pay. :)

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