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Are wormholes uni-directional?

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  • 7 73Zeppelin

    Actually the signature is okay with me. I'd rather be in Brazil right now...it's snowing here.

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    Andreas Saurwein
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    John Theal wrote: I'd rather be in Brazil right now...it's snowing here. Guess what... in the south of Brazil too. Fortunately I am a bit closer to the equator. Right now its about 22°C at 1:20am. Absolutely bearable temperature :)


    ...you know it already

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      John Theal wrote: I'd rather be in Brazil right now...it's snowing here. Guess what... in the south of Brazil too. Fortunately I am a bit closer to the equator. Right now its about 22°C at 1:20am. Absolutely bearable temperature :)


      ...you know it already

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      If only I were there... It's -5 C with windchill....stupid snow...

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        I was reading the new edition of Hawking's book and there is an extra chapter on wormholes and time travel. The basic idea is that wormholes can be used as short cuts for jumping between two distant regions of space-time. But he sums up by saying that "so wormholes, like any other possible faster than light travel, would allow one to travel into the past!" But he doesnt go on to tell us why its only into the past. As fara s I see it, if person A can jump from point X (say on earth - present day) to point Y (say on alpha centauri - 2000 years in the past relative to earth) then what's stopping person B from doing the same (except he jumps to earth from alpha centauri thereby going forward 2000 years into the future). Nish :confused:


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        I had read somewhere that if you have a wormhole connecting two locations (a simple tunnel, with no time-shift), and one of them is moving close to the speed of light, that their time-frames would go out of sync and they would not only connect two different locations, but two different times. If that is the case, then moving through a wormhole could bring you forwards or backwards in time (depending on which side you went into). ------------------------------------------ The ousted but stubbornly non-dead leader reportedly released an audiotape this weekend, ending by calling on Iraqis to, quote, "resist the occupation in any way you can, from writing on walls, to boycotting, to demonstrating and taking up arms." adding, "you know, pretty much anything I used to kill you for." - The Daily Show

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        • 7 73Zeppelin

          If only I were there... It's -5 C with windchill....stupid snow...

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          Roger Wright
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          It's 28C here (11:30 PM), and a lot closer than Brazil!:-D "Some people are like Slinkies... not really good for anything,
          but you still can't help but smile when you see one
          tumble down the stairs."

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          • N Nish Nishant

            I was reading the new edition of Hawking's book and there is an extra chapter on wormholes and time travel. The basic idea is that wormholes can be used as short cuts for jumping between two distant regions of space-time. But he sums up by saying that "so wormholes, like any other possible faster than light travel, would allow one to travel into the past!" But he doesnt go on to tell us why its only into the past. As fara s I see it, if person A can jump from point X (say on earth - present day) to point Y (say on alpha centauri - 2000 years in the past relative to earth) then what's stopping person B from doing the same (except he jumps to earth from alpha centauri thereby going forward 2000 years into the future). Nish :confused:


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            Nishant S wrote: then what's stopping person B from doing the same (except he jumps to earth from alpha centauri thereby going forward 2000 years into the future). Time-cops or gigantic red ants. :rolleyes: Seriously, i don' know :doh:. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Memory leaks is the price we pay \0 01234567890123456789012345678901234

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            • N Nish Nishant

              One thing in favor of future time travel is that if time travel into the past had existed, we'd probably have seen some dude from 3050 coming back to warn us of something, say a flood :-) Nish


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              Nishant S wrote: we'd probably have seen some dude from 3050 coming back to warn us of something, say a flood How about this: :-D NEW YORK -- Federal investigators have arrested an enigmatic Wall Street wiz on insider-trading charges -- and incredibly, he claims to be a time-traveler from the year 2256! Sources at the Security and Exchange Commission confirm that 44-year-old Andrew Carlssin offered the bizarre explanation for his uncanny success in the stock market after being led off in handcuffs on January 28. "We don't believe this guy's story -- he's either a lunatic or a pathological liar," says an SEC insider. "But the fact is, with an initial investment of only $800, in two weeks' time he had a portfolio valued at over $350 million. Every trade he made capitalized on unexpected business developments, which simply can't be pure luck. http://entertainment.tv.yahoo.com/entnews/wwn/20030319/104808600007.html[^] David

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                Nishant S wrote: we'd probably have seen some dude from 3050 coming back to warn us of something, say a flood How about this: :-D NEW YORK -- Federal investigators have arrested an enigmatic Wall Street wiz on insider-trading charges -- and incredibly, he claims to be a time-traveler from the year 2256! Sources at the Security and Exchange Commission confirm that 44-year-old Andrew Carlssin offered the bizarre explanation for his uncanny success in the stock market after being led off in handcuffs on January 28. "We don't believe this guy's story -- he's either a lunatic or a pathological liar," says an SEC insider. "But the fact is, with an initial investment of only $800, in two weeks' time he had a portfolio valued at over $350 million. Every trade he made capitalized on unexpected business developments, which simply can't be pure luck. http://entertainment.tv.yahoo.com/entnews/wwn/20030319/104808600007.html[^] David

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                or not ;P http://sec.broaddaylight.com/sec/FAQ_19_16002.shtm[^] Dave

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                • N Nish Nishant

                  I was reading the new edition of Hawking's book and there is an extra chapter on wormholes and time travel. The basic idea is that wormholes can be used as short cuts for jumping between two distant regions of space-time. But he sums up by saying that "so wormholes, like any other possible faster than light travel, would allow one to travel into the past!" But he doesnt go on to tell us why its only into the past. As fara s I see it, if person A can jump from point X (say on earth - present day) to point Y (say on alpha centauri - 2000 years in the past relative to earth) then what's stopping person B from doing the same (except he jumps to earth from alpha centauri thereby going forward 2000 years into the future). Nish :confused:


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                  If wormholes were uni-directional, then it would be illogical for time to be a dimension. Consider an object going through a wormhole from 2003AD to 203AD. Relative to the local universe it may have gone back in time. But it itself probably just went a small step ahead in time. If the object's relative time was taken backwards then the object would be back in 2003. The two main fields of thought on time travel to the future are multiple futures, or future convergence. Future convergence suggests that it is impossible for you to go back in time and shoot your great grand father as you would not exist to do that. Multiple futures suggest that you could thus their are multiple futures possible. With multiple futures the big problem with time travel is that you won't know which future you would be going to as it hadn't been decided. But future convergence solves this as their would only be one future possible. The one that had a record of you leaving. Regardz Colin J Davies

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                    or not ;P http://sec.broaddaylight.com/sec/FAQ_19_16002.shtm[^] Dave

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                    That just says no action has been brought against him, not that he did not enjoy phenomenal success on the exchange. Maybe no just cause could be found for such action, except the embarrassing theory that he did have insider (future) knowledge. The difference between a pessimist and an optimist is that while the pessimist is always a victim, the optimist is always a target. - Brady Kelly

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                      That just says no action has been brought against him, not that he did not enjoy phenomenal success on the exchange. Maybe no just cause could be found for such action, except the embarrassing theory that he did have insider (future) knowledge. The difference between a pessimist and an optimist is that while the pessimist is always a victim, the optimist is always a target. - Brady Kelly

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                      So what is the definition of "The reports appear to be a hoax" 1) Andrew Carlssin , never existed ALL reports appear to be a hoax 2) Andrew Carlssin is a real person, but never but money on the stock market 3) Andrew Carlssin is a real person and made some money on the stock market 4) Andrew Carlssin is a real person and made a huge amount of money by insider trading 5) Andrew Carlssin is a real person, a time traveller , made a huge amount of money using knowledge of past events and the authorities are desperatley trying to cover up the truth. Quick Straw poll please :) Dave

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                        So what is the definition of "The reports appear to be a hoax" 1) Andrew Carlssin , never existed ALL reports appear to be a hoax 2) Andrew Carlssin is a real person, but never but money on the stock market 3) Andrew Carlssin is a real person and made some money on the stock market 4) Andrew Carlssin is a real person and made a huge amount of money by insider trading 5) Andrew Carlssin is a real person, a time traveller , made a huge amount of money using knowledge of past events and the authorities are desperatley trying to cover up the truth. Quick Straw poll please :) Dave

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                        But everybody knows its alway a huge coverup. The difference between a pessimist and an optimist is that while the pessimist is always a victim, the optimist is always a target. - Brady Kelly

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                          But everybody knows its alway a huge coverup. The difference between a pessimist and an optimist is that while the pessimist is always a victim, the optimist is always a target. - Brady Kelly

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                          Dave B
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                          The X-Files has soooo much to answer for :)

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                            Nishant S wrote: we'd probably have seen some dude from 3050 coming back to warn us of something, say a flood How about this: :-D NEW YORK -- Federal investigators have arrested an enigmatic Wall Street wiz on insider-trading charges -- and incredibly, he claims to be a time-traveler from the year 2256! Sources at the Security and Exchange Commission confirm that 44-year-old Andrew Carlssin offered the bizarre explanation for his uncanny success in the stock market after being led off in handcuffs on January 28. "We don't believe this guy's story -- he's either a lunatic or a pathological liar," says an SEC insider. "But the fact is, with an initial investment of only $800, in two weeks' time he had a portfolio valued at over $350 million. Every trade he made capitalized on unexpected business developments, which simply can't be pure luck. http://entertainment.tv.yahoo.com/entnews/wwn/20030319/104808600007.html[^] David

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                            You had me there for a second or two. I actually bought the story...:omg: John

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