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Actually, I've installed Linux on an old PC of mine recently just to try it. My first "attempt" was Debian. I tried installing the desktop on it and the installer crashed half way through. On top of that, the crash prevented me from logging in as root. I eventially got it working again, but it took a couple phone calls. My second "attempt" was Red Hat which I installed recently on a different PC of mine. The OS install program crashed on me once too. Hmmm... all of this talk about Linux being more secure and stable than MS Windows sounds like BS to me. I don't know. Maybe I was just unlucky?
Joshua Quick wrote: Maybe I was just unlucky? Nope, I've seen this alot, and my roomate is trying to install linux on a machine right now but if its not one problem its another. I guess what they mean by stable is if you get it running (big if) and don't really touch it and let the uptime clock run and nothing more its stable ;P Matt Newman
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£inux! Why should Microsoft have all the fun! This Lindows company is just trying to bank off of our fears anyways. So, lets share the love. Take that Linux! ;P (I used ALT-0163 to make the English pound. Did it work?)
Brilliant! :laugh:
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£inux! Why should Microsoft have all the fun! This Lindows company is just trying to bank off of our fears anyways. So, lets share the love. Take that Linux! ;P (I used ALT-0163 to make the English pound. Did it work?)
Joshua Quick wrote: I used ALT-0163 to make the English pound. Cool! Can you find a key combination to make them jump up and down too? ;P
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Jesse Evans wrote: Ok, you're all bashing Linux. Where did I? Jesse Evans wrote: But, who has a sensible explaination for the fellow's XBox being 'reset'? Was that in the things that will happen, can happen, or did happen? Anyway, MS Knowledge Base[^] has the answer.
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sighist | Agile Programming | doxygenpeterchen wrote: Where did I? (... bash Linux) I did not mean to imply you, personally, were. Just the general tone of the thread. I should have replied to the thread's head, I guess, rather than your post. Sorry for the confusion. peterchen wrote: Anyway, MS Knowledge Base[^] has the answer. Cute :| (It's kinda difficult to read the text, as its color blends in with the background.) Anyway, I guess your implication is that the fellow's problem was user error? How about the lack of a warning prompt that something was going to be changed? Of course, maybe he's making this up as part of a wider anti-M$ conspiracy. 'til next we type... HAVE FUN!! -- Jesse
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peterchen wrote: Where did I? (... bash Linux) I did not mean to imply you, personally, were. Just the general tone of the thread. I should have replied to the thread's head, I guess, rather than your post. Sorry for the confusion. peterchen wrote: Anyway, MS Knowledge Base[^] has the answer. Cute :| (It's kinda difficult to read the text, as its color blends in with the background.) Anyway, I guess your implication is that the fellow's problem was user error? How about the lack of a warning prompt that something was going to be changed? Of course, maybe he's making this up as part of a wider anti-M$ conspiracy. 'til next we type... HAVE FUN!! -- Jesse
Jesse Evans wrote: I did not mean to imply you, personally, were. Yeah, I figured you probably just picked the last reply. Jesse Evans wrote: Anyway, I guess your implication is that the fellow's problem was user error? my implication is that I didn't bother reading so far. Seriously, this guy has a healthy paranoia. And seeing Microsoft as the Worst Devil Possible is just naive. Jesse Evans wrote: M$ Watch this: $un Ha! ;P
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Joshua Quick wrote: I used ALT-0163 to make the English pound. Cool! Can you find a key combination to make them jump up and down too? ;P
Regards,Rohit Sinha
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Joshua Quick wrote: I used ALT-0163 to make the English pound. Cool! Can you find a key combination to make them jump up and down too? ;P
Regards,Rohit Sinha
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- Mother TeresaRohit Sinha wrote: Cool! Can you find a key combination to make them jump up and down too? CTRL-ALT-DEL No wait, that makes me jump up and down! :laugh:
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This is just propaganda. Unproffesional mud slinging. Ever notice that the Linux community focuses on bashing Windows rather than touting Linux's features and benefits? A good example of this is at www.slashdot.org. If the Linux community wants me to switch from Windows to Linux, then this is not the way to do it. This type of unprofessionalism only strengthens my support for Windows.
Here is the deal with the Linux zealots. I have used several Linux distros for about seven years now and have been involved in many aspects of the community. It boils down to this. There are two types of people that use Linux. The Zealots and the Average Joe. The Average Joe is a person that uses Linux because it is a challenge and they get a kick out of it. They like how it works and enjoy having to spend inordanate amounts of time doing seemly simple tasks just because it's fun to have to modify source code to make it compile and work correctly. The other type of Linux users is the Zealot. The majority of these use Linux for one reason. They think it makes them smarter. There is this huge misconception out there that is "If I run Linux I am smarter then Windows Users!". The fact is 99.9% of these people are clueless and couldn't recompile a kernel if their life depended on it. I like Linux, it looks cool and is fun to play around with. However you are correct that the Linux Zealots are annoying. Half the time I get in arguments with them they start off trying to talk down to me because they use Linux. Yet when I get into detailed arguments about virtually anything they can't hold up the conversation. Most have just stuck a cd in their drive and clicked next, hmm sounds like Windows. If you did a custom install, tweaked the hell out of it you have all the room you want to bitch about Windows. If you just put a cd in and clicked next and never ventured past apt-get or rpm -ivh then sit down and shut up.
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Rohit Sinha wrote: Cool! Can you find a key combination to make them jump up and down too? CTRL-ALT-DEL No wait, that makes me jump up and down! :laugh:
CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE There's no harm in being bilingual. My code isn't buggy. Those are all fleatures.
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Actually, I've installed Linux on an old PC of mine recently just to try it. My first "attempt" was Debian. I tried installing the desktop on it and the installer crashed half way through. On top of that, the crash prevented me from logging in as root. I eventially got it working again, but it took a couple phone calls. My second "attempt" was Red Hat which I installed recently on a different PC of mine. The OS install program crashed on me once too. Hmmm... all of this talk about Linux being more secure and stable than MS Windows sounds like BS to me. I don't know. Maybe I was just unlucky?
1.) I think Linux is generally about as stable as Windows 2.) XP and 2003 are now easily "Installable' compared to Linux 3.) Linux seens to win hands down on resources needed, So if you have an old P1 or P2 and time to spare, Linux is a valid choice. Regardz Colin J Davies
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This is just propaganda. Unproffesional mud slinging. Ever notice that the Linux community focuses on bashing Windows rather than touting Linux's features and benefits? A good example of this is at www.slashdot.org. If the Linux community wants me to switch from Windows to Linux, then this is not the way to do it. This type of unprofessionalism only strengthens my support for Windows.
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I got the biggest laugh out of this line: "Microsoft is making certain Microsoft Office 2003 files unreadable by all older versions of Microsoft Office" Newer versions have always been unreadable by older versions (and not just with MS products)!
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Ok, you're all bashing Linux. Fine. But, who has a sensible explaination for the fellow's XBox being 'reset'? 'til next we type... HAVE FUN!! -- Jesse
Yes, I think I do, actually. Like most of these games systems, a certain amount of data, programs, etc.. resides in "predefined" folders and/or locations. When he "accidently" connected to xBox Live, as he put it, and it "updated" his xBox, it did exactly what it thought it should: add new system files, remove old ones, clean-up house, delete old folders, Etc... What I don't understand is how this person seems to believe his xBox is a "computer system" in the sense that it is a personal PC; it's a game system. He had "hacked" the system to do something which it was not intended to do. While it might 'be like' a computer, obviously Microsoft does not treat it this way, I wouldn't expect them to either. I understand his complaint, that when he connected to xBox live that it updated "without his permission", but that's like plugging your Workstation into a Domain, and then getting ticked off when the Admin polices go and install Norton on "your machine". He blames Microsoft for the damage done to his machine, I blame him for (1) attempting to modify the core system to do something it was not designed to do (2) clicking on a link that connects directly to Microsoft and will install updates to your system (per their site information). If I tell you not to stick your finger in the fire because you're going to get burned, what are you going to do? Then don't hack/modify systems and expect everything to "work" just because YOU want it to. D.
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Yes, I think I do, actually. Like most of these games systems, a certain amount of data, programs, etc.. resides in "predefined" folders and/or locations. When he "accidently" connected to xBox Live, as he put it, and it "updated" his xBox, it did exactly what it thought it should: add new system files, remove old ones, clean-up house, delete old folders, Etc... What I don't understand is how this person seems to believe his xBox is a "computer system" in the sense that it is a personal PC; it's a game system. He had "hacked" the system to do something which it was not intended to do. While it might 'be like' a computer, obviously Microsoft does not treat it this way, I wouldn't expect them to either. I understand his complaint, that when he connected to xBox live that it updated "without his permission", but that's like plugging your Workstation into a Domain, and then getting ticked off when the Admin polices go and install Norton on "your machine". He blames Microsoft for the damage done to his machine, I blame him for (1) attempting to modify the core system to do something it was not designed to do (2) clicking on a link that connects directly to Microsoft and will install updates to your system (per their site information). If I tell you not to stick your finger in the fire because you're going to get burned, what are you going to do? Then don't hack/modify systems and expect everything to "work" just because YOU want it to. D.
Now, that's a well-thought-out reply and a point I hadn't considered. Thanks.:) 'til next we type... HAVE FUN!! -- Jesse