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Jonny Newman wrote: *cough* I hope you have some backing behind that statement. Here you go[^];P I might live in North Wales now but I was born in Liverpool & lived/worked on the Wirral/Merseyside for most of my life before fleeing to a quieter less crime/drug ridden place.:-D Also the only good TV signal here brings in the North West local news rather than the Wales local news, so I see the pictures :( John Hudson Megan Forbes after having cage slightly rattled: Grrrrrrr....:baaaa!: humbug I say!:omg: JohnJ makes a note to wear protective clothing/goggles next time;P http://www.rainbow-innov.co.uk[^]
JohnJ wrote: Here you go[^] Two results? There is probably more about a Cheshire man picking his nose than that!
Jonathan 'nonny' Newman blog.nonny.com [^]
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Earlier: JohnJ wrote: control the use of fireworks IMHO fireworks should be illigal to buy on the street and should only be used by licensed companies for use in public or private shows. My parents and a few friends are organising a fundraising fireworks night at my college, we are making it a large event with lots of fun stuff to do, we have banned sparklers and instead brought in glow-lamps and stuff like that to sell to the kids. The actual fireworks are being run by a professional company we are paying for the night. And the bonfire will have a team feeding it and making sure its safe. There is no need to have your own fireworks at home when you can enjoy them in a controlled environment with much more spectacular displays, and a cheaper price. Here are the western governments saying how they are cracking down on terrorism, when you can buy enough explosives for a small war for £20 from your local newsagents/corner-shop. They think by making it 18's and older allowed to buy them, but it hasn't stopped under-18's drinking has it? For the last 3 weeks I've been woken up by kids letting off fireworks at 1-2am. Last night my dog was in such a state of fright/panic that we had to lock her in the study to prevent her doing harm to herself or another member of the family. Also, we see clips on the news about kids putting fireworks through letterboxes, in post boxes and in phone booths and blowing them up. Its criminal but for some reason [edit]we are allowed to buy fireworks because[/edit] 'its traditional therefore Ok'.
Jonathan 'nonny' Newman blog.nonny.com [^]
I'm with you. Round my way the last few nights and tonight has sounded like I'd moved to downtown Bagdad. I went up to the park the other morning and all the dog-poop bins were shattered around the place with the tell tale sign of fireworks all around. It's been happening for years and I don't see it changing. My advice to the government is to tax them more, that way they'll at least be able to afford to pay for the repairs. This country is sliding toward obvilion - I think it's time I moved to somewhere that isn't stuck in the dark-ages. Michael 'Logic, my dear Zoe, merely enables one to be wrong with authority.' - The Doctor: The Wheel in Space
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I'm with you. Round my way the last few nights and tonight has sounded like I'd moved to downtown Bagdad. I went up to the park the other morning and all the dog-poop bins were shattered around the place with the tell tale sign of fireworks all around. It's been happening for years and I don't see it changing. My advice to the government is to tax them more, that way they'll at least be able to afford to pay for the repairs. This country is sliding toward obvilion - I think it's time I moved to somewhere that isn't stuck in the dark-ages. Michael 'Logic, my dear Zoe, merely enables one to be wrong with authority.' - The Doctor: The Wheel in Space
Michael P Butler wrote: My advice to the government is to tax them more Ahhh...a classic European response!;P To most North Americans, solving any problem by taxing it more is about the most abhorrent thing you could possibly suggest.
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I suppose you are happy to let your 5 year old play on their own with explosives too?
Jonathan 'nonny' Newman blog.nonny.com [^]
Absolutely! The sort of parent that lets their 5 year old play with explosives on their own absolutely should have the right to do so. It's called evolution in action.
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The fun factor of people blowing off their limbs, setting houses on fire and driving pets crazy seems to elude me for some weird reason...
You guys are all missing the painfully obvious: parents are responsible for those problems, look to yourselves, not your government. When did people stop taking responsibility for their lives?
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JohnJ wrote: Here you go[^] Two results? There is probably more about a Cheshire man picking his nose than that!
Jonathan 'nonny' Newman blog.nonny.com [^]
Jonny Newman wrote: There is probably more about a Cheshire man picking his nose than that! Look its not my fault if the inhabitants of Cheshire have strange habits:wtf: John Hudson Megan Forbes after having cage slightly rattled: Grrrrrrr....:baaaa!: humbug I say!:omg: JohnJ makes a note to wear protective clothing/goggles next time;P http://www.rainbow-innov.co.uk[^]
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JohnJ wrote: Like Jonny Newman I have a dog that goes mad when there is a nearby or not so nearby bang, not to mention the growing Liverpool habit of blowing up phone boxes with the damn things Not much danger of that in London this year though, huh? ;P JohnJ wrote: I'm dead against the "Nanny State" but this has gone mad and needs stopping now because each year it get worse, flog the little b*st*rds who let them off to cause disruption Well said, that man. Paul (another dog owner - worse, a very large puppy owner)
Paul Riley wrote: Well said, that man. JohnJ pauses to pull West Highland Terrier off ceiling after loud bang:-D Nice to hear someone in favour:) John Hudson Megan Forbes after having cage slightly rattled: Grrrrrrr....:baaaa!: humbug I say!:omg: JohnJ makes a note to wear protective clothing/goggles next time;P http://www.rainbow-innov.co.uk[^]
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Earlier: JohnJ wrote: control the use of fireworks IMHO fireworks should be illigal to buy on the street and should only be used by licensed companies for use in public or private shows. My parents and a few friends are organising a fundraising fireworks night at my college, we are making it a large event with lots of fun stuff to do, we have banned sparklers and instead brought in glow-lamps and stuff like that to sell to the kids. The actual fireworks are being run by a professional company we are paying for the night. And the bonfire will have a team feeding it and making sure its safe. There is no need to have your own fireworks at home when you can enjoy them in a controlled environment with much more spectacular displays, and a cheaper price. Here are the western governments saying how they are cracking down on terrorism, when you can buy enough explosives for a small war for £20 from your local newsagents/corner-shop. They think by making it 18's and older allowed to buy them, but it hasn't stopped under-18's drinking has it? For the last 3 weeks I've been woken up by kids letting off fireworks at 1-2am. Last night my dog was in such a state of fright/panic that we had to lock her in the study to prevent her doing harm to herself or another member of the family. Also, we see clips on the news about kids putting fireworks through letterboxes, in post boxes and in phone booths and blowing them up. Its criminal but for some reason [edit]we are allowed to buy fireworks because[/edit] 'its traditional therefore Ok'.
Jonathan 'nonny' Newman blog.nonny.com [^]
Let's ban paintball / pellet guns also, as the same undisciplined kids are misusing them. And rubber bands. They hurt. And baseball bats - i'm tired of replacing my mailbox. Matches and lighters too - only certified, licensed professionals should be starting fire, ever. Oh, i suppose we should lock up flint and steel at the same time. And gravel - what were we thinking there?! :rolleyes: Or, just maybe, we could put the blame on the little bastards doing the mischief. :| [Edit: Oops, John's already beating this horse. Ah, well, it needs it. :) ]
A servant to formulaic ways.
Shog9
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Paul Riley wrote: Well said, that man. JohnJ pauses to pull West Highland Terrier off ceiling after loud bang:-D Nice to hear someone in favour:) John Hudson Megan Forbes after having cage slightly rattled: Grrrrrrr....:baaaa!: humbug I say!:omg: JohnJ makes a note to wear protective clothing/goggles next time;P http://www.rainbow-innov.co.uk[^]
JohnJ wrote: JohnJ pauses to pull West Highland Terrier off ceiling after loud bang :laugh: We have a German Shepherd - 9 months old and very friendly, but standing his head comes up to my waist. I'm 6' tall. He doesn't so much stick to the ceiling as put a bloody great hole through it. And our official local display is tomorrow night :sigh: Paul
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You guys are all missing the painfully obvious: parents are responsible for those problems, look to yourselves, not your government. When did people stop taking responsibility for their lives?
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I support two teams: the Canucks and whoever is playing the Leafs!John Cardinal wrote: You guys are all missing the painfully obvious: parents are responsible for those problems, look to yourselves, not your government. That would be nice. Unfortunately, I have no kids to teach and there's enough parents out there who refuse to teach their kids that my life can become negatively affected. Who should I turn to? Those parents or the government? Besides, the UK government is already a nanny state. If I have to put up with all the negative crap that comes with that, why shouldn't I expect some sensible decisions to be made as well? Paul
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JohnJ wrote: JohnJ pauses to pull West Highland Terrier off ceiling after loud bang :laugh: We have a German Shepherd - 9 months old and very friendly, but standing his head comes up to my waist. I'm 6' tall. He doesn't so much stick to the ceiling as put a bloody great hole through it. And our official local display is tomorrow night :sigh: Paul
Paul Riley wrote: We have a German Shepherd - 9 months old and very friendly Well this is a 10 year old West Highland Terrier, very freindly but with a bark like a German Shepherd:rolleyes: He's the guard dog, constantly on watch but Fireworks/Extreme loud bangs turn him into a wimp:doh: He had a bad first 2 years before he was rescued, but that doesn't excuse the more stupid people of let these things off:mad: John Hudson Megan Forbes after having cage slightly rattled: Grrrrrrr....:baaaa!: humbug I say!:omg: JohnJ makes a note to wear protective clothing/goggles next time;P http://www.rainbow-innov.co.uk[^]
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Absolutely! The sort of parent that lets their 5 year old play with explosives on their own absolutely should have the right to do so. It's called evolution in action.
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I support two teams: the Canucks and whoever is playing the Leafs!John Cardinal wrote: on their own It's not on their own though, they kill other children too. That's called manslaughter.
David Wulff The Royal Woofle Museum
Putting the laughter back into slaughter
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Let's ban paintball / pellet guns also, as the same undisciplined kids are misusing them. And rubber bands. They hurt. And baseball bats - i'm tired of replacing my mailbox. Matches and lighters too - only certified, licensed professionals should be starting fire, ever. Oh, i suppose we should lock up flint and steel at the same time. And gravel - what were we thinking there?! :rolleyes: Or, just maybe, we could put the blame on the little bastards doing the mischief. :| [Edit: Oops, John's already beating this horse. Ah, well, it needs it. :) ]
A servant to formulaic ways.
Shog9
Shog9 wrote: Or, just maybe, we could put the blame on the little bastards doing the mischief. Blaming them doesn't help, warning them doesn't help. Arresting them doesn't help. The more attention they get from it the more they do it. Its ok for you to say 'Nanny State' is bad, but if there were no laws, then all 8 year olds would have shotguns and we would be perfectly entitled to drive while pissed(drunk) out of our minds. Is that a safe world?
Jonathan 'nonny' Newman blog.nonny.com [^]
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I'm with you. Round my way the last few nights and tonight has sounded like I'd moved to downtown Bagdad. I went up to the park the other morning and all the dog-poop bins were shattered around the place with the tell tale sign of fireworks all around. It's been happening for years and I don't see it changing. My advice to the government is to tax them more, that way they'll at least be able to afford to pay for the repairs. This country is sliding toward obvilion - I think it's time I moved to somewhere that isn't stuck in the dark-ages. Michael 'Logic, my dear Zoe, merely enables one to be wrong with authority.' - The Doctor: The Wheel in Space
Michael P Butler wrote: My advice to the government is to tax them more :laugh: The more expensive they are, the more money will be stolen from the purses of the elderly to pay for them :-)
Jonathan 'nonny' Newman blog.nonny.com [^]
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Earlier: JohnJ wrote: control the use of fireworks IMHO fireworks should be illigal to buy on the street and should only be used by licensed companies for use in public or private shows. My parents and a few friends are organising a fundraising fireworks night at my college, we are making it a large event with lots of fun stuff to do, we have banned sparklers and instead brought in glow-lamps and stuff like that to sell to the kids. The actual fireworks are being run by a professional company we are paying for the night. And the bonfire will have a team feeding it and making sure its safe. There is no need to have your own fireworks at home when you can enjoy them in a controlled environment with much more spectacular displays, and a cheaper price. Here are the western governments saying how they are cracking down on terrorism, when you can buy enough explosives for a small war for £20 from your local newsagents/corner-shop. They think by making it 18's and older allowed to buy them, but it hasn't stopped under-18's drinking has it? For the last 3 weeks I've been woken up by kids letting off fireworks at 1-2am. Last night my dog was in such a state of fright/panic that we had to lock her in the study to prevent her doing harm to herself or another member of the family. Also, we see clips on the news about kids putting fireworks through letterboxes, in post boxes and in phone booths and blowing them up. Its criminal but for some reason [edit]we are allowed to buy fireworks because[/edit] 'its traditional therefore Ok'.
Jonathan 'nonny' Newman blog.nonny.com [^]
Fireworks are illegal in Ireland. You need a licence from a circuit court to buy any and I think that that's the way it shoudl be. Regards, Brian Dela :-) http://www.briandela.com IE 6 required.
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You guys are all missing the painfully obvious: parents are responsible for those problems, look to yourselves, not your government. When did people stop taking responsibility for their lives?
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I support two teams: the Canucks and whoever is playing the Leafs!John Cardinal wrote: parents are responsible for those problems It doesn't help when the parents are the 3rd generation of 'little-firework-messing-thugs'. They don't give a damn and will complain if the police arrest their kids for setting fire to somones house.
Jonathan 'nonny' Newman blog.nonny.com [^]
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Earlier: JohnJ wrote: control the use of fireworks IMHO fireworks should be illigal to buy on the street and should only be used by licensed companies for use in public or private shows. My parents and a few friends are organising a fundraising fireworks night at my college, we are making it a large event with lots of fun stuff to do, we have banned sparklers and instead brought in glow-lamps and stuff like that to sell to the kids. The actual fireworks are being run by a professional company we are paying for the night. And the bonfire will have a team feeding it and making sure its safe. There is no need to have your own fireworks at home when you can enjoy them in a controlled environment with much more spectacular displays, and a cheaper price. Here are the western governments saying how they are cracking down on terrorism, when you can buy enough explosives for a small war for £20 from your local newsagents/corner-shop. They think by making it 18's and older allowed to buy them, but it hasn't stopped under-18's drinking has it? For the last 3 weeks I've been woken up by kids letting off fireworks at 1-2am. Last night my dog was in such a state of fright/panic that we had to lock her in the study to prevent her doing harm to herself or another member of the family. Also, we see clips on the news about kids putting fireworks through letterboxes, in post boxes and in phone booths and blowing them up. Its criminal but for some reason [edit]we are allowed to buy fireworks because[/edit] 'its traditional therefore Ok'.
Jonathan 'nonny' Newman blog.nonny.com [^]
Fireworks should be legal for adults to purchase and use at their own discretion. The reason kids (and adults) so often do wrong and hurtful things with them is that they have no appreciation of the power to expect from them, and this is precisely because they have no experience with them. When I was growing up they were legal, and we (all the kids in the neighborhood) knew exactly what they could do, having played with them all our lives. We had no such accidents, ever, even with the explosive devices we built in our garages. "Nanny" government weakens the people in mind and spirit, and improperly prevents the useless and stupid from being culled out by natural selection. "Your village called -
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Shog9 wrote: Or, just maybe, we could put the blame on the little bastards doing the mischief. Blaming them doesn't help, warning them doesn't help. Arresting them doesn't help. The more attention they get from it the more they do it. Its ok for you to say 'Nanny State' is bad, but if there were no laws, then all 8 year olds would have shotguns and we would be perfectly entitled to drive while pissed(drunk) out of our minds. Is that a safe world?
Jonathan 'nonny' Newman blog.nonny.com [^]
Jonny Newman wrote: Is that a safe world? Since when is the world supposed to be safe? I'm spending the afternoon using a wet saw to cut ceramic tile. Now, i'm a moderately careful person, so haven't had any trouble - but, certainly there's ample opportunity for someone to use the saw to cut off their hand, someone else's hand, electrocute themselves, start a destructive fire, or simply ruin an otherwise good piece of equipment. For the sake of my new floor, i'm glad there aren't any heavy-handed laws preventing the use of power tools for these reasons. To use a slightly more relevant example, it's now difficult for persons under the age of 18 to buy spray paint here. Why? Because a few idiots thought it fun to huff the stuff. Great. Now my sister has to get someone else to buy art supplies for her. Meanwhile, the same idiots are probably huffing petroleum straight from a pump somewhere, and drinking denatured alcohol. You wanna ban fireworks to keep kids from blowing up mailboxes? Guess what - a bottle filled with aluminum foil and toilet bowl cleaner does the job just as well, while being (if anything) even easier to obtain than fireworks. And the numbskulls who survive that will probably go on to fill many roles in society where their careless, thoughtless ways will harm you in much more significant ways. A wall covered and stained by mildew can be painted over much more easily than it can be cleaned. But it doesn't help nearly as much in the long run. But enough griping. I don't know what system of local government you have there, but i'd imagine there is some sort of town council or the like. Get other concerned citizens to sign a petition, and bring it to the attention of local lawmakers. Suggest that explosives be restricted within city limits, or that a designated area be set aside for their use. Suggest stiff penalties for anyone violating this ordinance. Take a democratic approach to the situation, and see how far it gets you before resorting to heavy-handed restrictions.
A servant to formulaic ways.
Shog
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Earlier: JohnJ wrote: control the use of fireworks IMHO fireworks should be illigal to buy on the street and should only be used by licensed companies for use in public or private shows. My parents and a few friends are organising a fundraising fireworks night at my college, we are making it a large event with lots of fun stuff to do, we have banned sparklers and instead brought in glow-lamps and stuff like that to sell to the kids. The actual fireworks are being run by a professional company we are paying for the night. And the bonfire will have a team feeding it and making sure its safe. There is no need to have your own fireworks at home when you can enjoy them in a controlled environment with much more spectacular displays, and a cheaper price. Here are the western governments saying how they are cracking down on terrorism, when you can buy enough explosives for a small war for £20 from your local newsagents/corner-shop. They think by making it 18's and older allowed to buy them, but it hasn't stopped under-18's drinking has it? For the last 3 weeks I've been woken up by kids letting off fireworks at 1-2am. Last night my dog was in such a state of fright/panic that we had to lock her in the study to prevent her doing harm to herself or another member of the family. Also, we see clips on the news about kids putting fireworks through letterboxes, in post boxes and in phone booths and blowing them up. Its criminal but for some reason [edit]we are allowed to buy fireworks because[/edit] 'its traditional therefore Ok'.
Jonathan 'nonny' Newman blog.nonny.com [^]
Not sure my disagrement with your position is proper for the lounge. So I'll leave it that.
Please save us from the baby-sitter-by-goverment crowd. We, the unwashed masses, can and do get along just fine without these malentioned do-gooders.
The only way of discovering the limits of the possible is to venture a little past them into the impossible.--Arthur C. Clark
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John Cardinal wrote: on their own It's not on their own though, they kill other children too. That's called manslaughter.
David Wulff The Royal Woofle Museum
Putting the laughter back into slaughter
It is called shit happens. Your airsoft guns should be banned for all the same reasons as fireworks mate. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Marc Clifton wrote: "organically fed captivity free regurgitated bee nectar" (honey) on dieting. Crikey! ain't life grand?