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:-) Actually, now you mention it, I think I noticed that at the time as well. I was pressed for time when I was setting it up, had lost a lot of time stuffing around with Kagi and just wanted to get the damn thing set up. I wasn't totally happy with the idea of going with them but they have proved to be OK in the end.
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Can you tell me how much it costs to transfer funds into your Oz bank account. I assume (hope) they do a direct bank transfer or ACH? Neville Franks, Author of ED for Windows. Free Trial at www.getsoft.com
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Can you tell me how much it costs to transfer funds into your Oz bank account. I assume (hope) they do a direct bank transfer or ACH? Neville Franks, Author of ED for Windows. Free Trial at www.getsoft.com
Neville Franks wrote: Can you tell me how much it costs to transfer funds into your Oz bank account. They have just finished upgrading their payment system. You'd want to confirm this in their FAQ but an O/S transfer is USD $40 (What's an ACH? I think they refer to the transfer as a "wire transfer". They asked for my bank's SWIFT number which I had never heard of before). While that strikes me as remarkably high, it seems to be about standard :-( Their new payment system offers free bank transfers within the US, IIRC.
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its a client of mine who has a porn site (shes a porn star - i know tsk tsk tsk but it pays the rent) she sells subscriptions and sells stuff online thats it pretty simple really but beyond ibill apparently and get this - tech support is only available 9-5 est monday thru friday - hows that for online 24/7 bizness?
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Neville Franks wrote: Can you tell me how much it costs to transfer funds into your Oz bank account. They have just finished upgrading their payment system. You'd want to confirm this in their FAQ but an O/S transfer is USD $40 (What's an ACH? I think they refer to the transfer as a "wire transfer". They asked for my bank's SWIFT number which I had never heard of before). While that strikes me as remarkably high, it seems to be about standard :-( Their new payment system offers free bank transfers within the US, IIRC.
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USD$40 is way to high IMO, especially when their cut is 10% which is on the high side. I get regular wire transfers and the costs are much lower than this. Other providers charge less than US40. I hadn't heard of an ACH until recently. One of the companies I'm considering is Esellerate http://www.esellerate.net[^] and they offer ACH. The charge for this is a very attractive $US5. This is just one of the attractions with Esellerate. Neville Franks, Author of ED for Windows. Free Trial at www.getsoft.com
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USD$40 is way to high IMO, especially when their cut is 10% which is on the high side. I get regular wire transfers and the costs are much lower than this. Other providers charge less than US40. I hadn't heard of an ACH until recently. One of the companies I'm considering is Esellerate http://www.esellerate.net[^] and they offer ACH. The charge for this is a very attractive $US5. This is just one of the attractions with Esellerate. Neville Franks, Author of ED for Windows. Free Trial at www.getsoft.com
Neville Franks wrote: USD$40 is way to high IMO, especially when their cut is 10% which is on the high side. I agree and this is one of the reasons why I was initially reluctant to go with them. But the others I looked at (and there were a few) all had some other turn-off e.g. they wanted an up-front setup fee. esellerate was one of the ones I considered but I couldn't tell you why I knocked them back :-) However, one of the cornerstones of our strategy with Awasu is world-class support so a reliable payment processor was crucial. We can provide the best support in the world but if there are problems when we are dealing with people's money, it will count for nothing. However, they have proved to be reliable and their support responsive so I don't mind paying the 10%. It's actually higher right now since there is a $3 minimum and we're selling Awasu for $15 (but this will change soon). Had there been problems, I would've had no hestitation in dumping them and finding someone better. But they were good in keeping us informed wrt to their recent systems upgrade and AFAIK, it all went smoothly. The $40 transfer fee I just write up as part of living in the third world :-) and have a relatively high threshold before they send the money over so the fee doesn't eat into our income too much. Chris Losinger's recommendation also counted for a lot - he strikes me as someone who knows what he's doing :-)
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Can you tell me how much it costs to transfer funds into your Oz bank account. I assume (hope) they do a direct bank transfer or ACH? Neville Franks, Author of ED for Windows. Free Trial at www.getsoft.com
Neville Franks wrote: Can you tell me how much it costs to transfer funds into your Oz bank account. Glen Iris? For some reason, I had always thought you were in the US. We're in Flemington :-) I'll have to pick your brains about this whole selling software over the Internet thing ;P
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Neville Franks wrote: Can you tell me how much it costs to transfer funds into your Oz bank account. Glen Iris? For some reason, I had always thought you were in the US. We're in Flemington :-) I'll have to pick your brains about this whole selling software over the Internet thing ;P
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Taka Muraoka wrote: I'll have to pick your brains about this whole selling software over the Internet thing Anytime, been doing it fo years. :) The move to a third party provider is new as they weren't really around when I started. I've got a dialog going with eSellerate and am reasonably satisfied so far. The ability to sell from within an app is something they only seem to have, and is appealling. I'd prefer to use my own licensing and software protection system, which I already use in ED, and a new system a friend is working, but this isn't straighforward with some or most providers. Neville Franks, Author of ED for Windows. Free Trial at www.getsoft.com
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Taka Muraoka wrote: I'll have to pick your brains about this whole selling software over the Internet thing Anytime, been doing it fo years. :) The move to a third party provider is new as they weren't really around when I started. I've got a dialog going with eSellerate and am reasonably satisfied so far. The ability to sell from within an app is something they only seem to have, and is appealling. I'd prefer to use my own licensing and software protection system, which I already use in ED, and a new system a friend is working, but this isn't straighforward with some or most providers. Neville Franks, Author of ED for Windows. Free Trial at www.getsoft.com
Neville Franks wrote: I'd prefer to use my own licensing and software protection system, which I already use in ED, and a new system a friend is working, but this isn't straighforward with some or most providers. Ah yes. The ability to dynamically generate our own licence keys was one of our criteria although I ended up not doing it that way :rolleyes: I'd be interested in hearing more about what you're using and what your friend is working on. For various reasons, protection is not so much of an issue for Awasu but I'd still like something a bit better than what we are using now.
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We have worked with WorldPay and they have been easy enough. Not sure if they do the States well though. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Brian Welsch wrote: "blah blah blah, maybe a potato?" while translating my Afrikaans. Crikey! ain't life grand?
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Neville Franks wrote: Can you tell me how much it costs to transfer funds into your Oz bank account. They have just finished upgrading their payment system. You'd want to confirm this in their FAQ but an O/S transfer is USD $40 (What's an ACH? I think they refer to the transfer as a "wire transfer". They asked for my bank's SWIFT number which I had never heard of before). While that strikes me as remarkably high, it seems to be about standard :-( Their new payment system offers free bank transfers within the US, IIRC.
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Taka Muraoka wrote: They asked for my bank's SWIFT number which I had never heard of before). Believe me SWIFT payments are the best method, as long as you bank doesn't screw up. :-) Regardz Colin J Davies
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Some of my clients use www.shareit.com and are very happy with them.
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Some of my clients use www.shareit.com and are very happy with them.
I use both DigiBuy and ShareIt! and am happy with both. DigiBuy's cut is a bit more, but their electronic delivery system is fantastic. Everything is controlled by me. I can upload a new version of my software and it's immediately available to customers. I signed up with ShareIt! years ago to handle European customers who wanted to pay with Eurocheques, and keep using them as a backup. If somebody writes and says they have a problem with DigiBiy I can send them to ShareIt! and vice versa.
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We've been using Shareit.com for years http://www.shareit.com[^] Decent rates, offices in Germany and the U.S. to handle customers properly world-wide, they are very professional, very large and we've never had any problems with them of any kind. They truly understand what it takes to provide proper services in different countries with different currencies, taxes etc, most of the U.S. based ones are strictly U.S. oriented. Most others don't even have the ability to set a do not sell to list for countries that have export restrictions, shareit does.
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Interesting topic. I have been searching for month to find a service that can send out registration keys that are not made out of some numbers and letters. No one is able to use a tool provided by the client (that would be the author) to generate the keys. Does someone know a service that can handle this? Jürgen cpicture.de
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Interesting topic. I have been searching for month to find a service that can send out registration keys that are not made out of some numbers and letters. No one is able to use a tool provided by the client (that would be the author) to generate the keys. Does someone know a service that can handle this? Jürgen cpicture.de
Jürgen Eidt wrote: Interesting topic. I have been searching for month to find a service that can send out registration keys that are not made out of some numbers and letters. No one is able to use a tool provided by the client (that would be the author) to generate the keys. Does someone know a service that can handle this? I've been looking at this as well. http://www.swreg.org[^] supposedly enable you to use your own license key generator or your Web server. Others let you provide them with code they run on their site to generate keys. The bigger players have this. Another option is to send the license key yourself. This could be automated so when you receive an order confirmation email from the provider you process that, extract the required customer details, generate the license key and email it to the customer. Let me know where you go with this. Neville Franks, Author of ED for Windows. Free Trial at www.getsoft.com
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Neville Franks wrote: I'd prefer to use my own licensing and software protection system, which I already use in ED, and a new system a friend is working, but this isn't straighforward with some or most providers. Ah yes. The ability to dynamically generate our own licence keys was one of our criteria although I ended up not doing it that way :rolleyes: I'd be interested in hearing more about what you're using and what your friend is working on. For various reasons, protection is not so much of an issue for Awasu but I'd still like something a bit better than what we are using now.
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Hi Taka, I'm the friend of Neville's. Too busy coding to watch these forums at the moment, so Nev was kind enough to prompt me about your interest. Our new product is close to release and will initially provide licensing and customer relationship management (FYI: you need automated customer relationship management to do licensing well). Later (early 2004) we'll be providing "unique to your application", heavy duty software protection; protects your software from crackers. Licensing is for protecting against normal thieves, software protection is for protecting against crackers. We also plan to interface (one way or another) to automatic payment processors. Initially, the licensing features will work with C/C++ (and PHP). Drop me a mail if you want to get involved in our early release program (ie. start using it now :rolleyes: ). (BTW, anyone who's interested is welcome to contact me regarding our early release program). Russell Robinson (russpub at rootsoftware dot com) Author of TTMaker (Advanced Timetabling Software) http://www.rootsoftware.com
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Neville Franks wrote: I'd prefer to use my own licensing and software protection system, which I already use in ED, and a new system a friend is working, but this isn't straighforward with some or most providers. Ah yes. The ability to dynamically generate our own licence keys was one of our criteria although I ended up not doing it that way :rolleyes: I'd be interested in hearing more about what you're using and what your friend is working on. For various reasons, protection is not so much of an issue for Awasu but I'd still like something a bit better than what we are using now.
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I'm using a License key generator that Russell wrote for TTMaker (see his reply). I then read all I could find on cracking and implimented a range of techniques to make it difficult for the most crackers. I also have a limited activation period for license keys, so if they do somehow get onto a warez site they are next to useless. This creates some pain for my customers and me, but is the way to go IMO. It also boosts sales where multiple copies are in use within a company. Email me if you want to know more details. PS Russell is here in Melbourne as well and is a muso.;) Neville Franks, Author of ED for Windows. Free Trial at www.getsoft.com