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  • O Olli

    Yesterday, I saw the movie '13 days' with Kevin Costner, which was about the Cuba-Crisis in the sixties. The situation was really close to the edge of total destruction... (and it really was, they had defcon2, and not only in the movie !!! ) One thing was really scarying me: What would George W. Bush have done? Would he had pushed the button? I don't know, but I think Kennedy was the right person at the right time. What do you think?

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    I think he would have done more or less the same thing. He may not be a popular US president but contrary to popular belief he isn't an idiot.. he wouldn't have started a nuclear war over it. Regards, Brian Dela :-) http://www.briandela.com IE 6 required.
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    • O Olli

      Yesterday, I saw the movie '13 days' with Kevin Costner, which was about the Cuba-Crisis in the sixties. The situation was really close to the edge of total destruction... (and it really was, they had defcon2, and not only in the movie !!! ) One thing was really scarying me: What would George W. Bush have done? Would he had pushed the button? I don't know, but I think Kennedy was the right person at the right time. What do you think?

      Olli "Ooooooh, they have the internet on computers now!"
      Homer Simpson
      :beer: + :java: = NULL :=> X|

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      Lost User
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      I just saw the last half of that, a great film. This could be in part because they underplayed it in parts and let your work things out for yourself. Plus a good insight into some people usually just seen as figures in the background. Elaine :rose: The tigress is here :-D

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      • O Olli

        Yesterday, I saw the movie '13 days' with Kevin Costner, which was about the Cuba-Crisis in the sixties. The situation was really close to the edge of total destruction... (and it really was, they had defcon2, and not only in the movie !!! ) One thing was really scarying me: What would George W. Bush have done? Would he had pushed the button? I don't know, but I think Kennedy was the right person at the right time. What do you think?

        Olli "Ooooooh, they have the internet on computers now!"
        Homer Simpson
        :beer: + :java: = NULL :=> X|

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        The Cuban missile crisis occured because of Kennedy's inept dealings with Cuba and Castro...assasination attempts, state sponsored terrorism, largest peace time buildup of strategic weapons (counter to intelligence), and the most inept thing, The Bay of Pigs Invasion. There is this notion that Kennedy stood his ground and the Soviets blinked...the Soviets "blinked" after we promised to pull our intermediate range missiles out of Turkey. The whole situation was managed so poorly, we were lucky to have survived. In my opinion Bush, or any other president, would have had to be trying to do worse, in order to have done worse. Gary Kirkham A working Program is one that has only unobserved bugs I thought I wanted a career, turns out I just wanted paychecks

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        • B Brian Delahunty

          I think he would have done more or less the same thing. He may not be a popular US president but contrary to popular belief he isn't an idiot.. he wouldn't have started a nuclear war over it. Regards, Brian Dela :-) http://www.briandela.com IE 6 required.
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          Brian Delahunty wrote: contrary to popular belief he isn't an idiot Do you have any proof? :suss:


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          • L Lost User

            If you like alternative history books then get a hold of Resurrection Day which imagines the US 10 years after the Cuban Misslile Crisis turned into WWIII. The basic premise is that the US annihalated the USSR but lost a few cities of their own too and is now a military dictatorship (and more or less a 3rd world country that still has a stockpile of nukes). Britain is jockeying for position as the worlds number one power (!) with competition from the EU (France/Germany). A very interesting read, though patchy in places. http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0751525499/qid=1069678723/sr=1-2/ref=sr\_1\_2\_2/026-7114369-1761216


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            Just ordered :-) Have you ever read Clancy's "The Bear and the Dragon", excellent read too if you are into superpower stand-offs.


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            • B Brian Delahunty

              I think he would have done more or less the same thing. He may not be a popular US president but contrary to popular belief he isn't an idiot.. he wouldn't have started a nuclear war over it. Regards, Brian Dela :-) http://www.briandela.com IE 6 required.
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              Jon Newman
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              "contrary to popular belief he isn't an idiot" I suppose you are right, a puppet is only as good as its manipulators. :rolleyes:


              Jonathan 'nonny' Newman blog.nonny.com [^]

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                The Cuban missile crisis occured because of Kennedy's inept dealings with Cuba and Castro...assasination attempts, state sponsored terrorism, largest peace time buildup of strategic weapons (counter to intelligence), and the most inept thing, The Bay of Pigs Invasion. There is this notion that Kennedy stood his ground and the Soviets blinked...the Soviets "blinked" after we promised to pull our intermediate range missiles out of Turkey. The whole situation was managed so poorly, we were lucky to have survived. In my opinion Bush, or any other president, would have had to be trying to do worse, in order to have done worse. Gary Kirkham A working Program is one that has only unobserved bugs I thought I wanted a career, turns out I just wanted paychecks

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                In addition, I'm convinced the entire episode was master politics by Kruschev. From his perspective, he couldn't really lose. If Kennedy hadn't called the bluff, the USSR would have had missiles in Cuba. (It seems to me, though, that Kruschev intended the missiles to be discovered--evidence being that the Soviets did precious little to hide what they were doing.) Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke

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                • L Lost User

                  I just saw the last half of that, a great film. This could be in part because they underplayed it in parts and let your work things out for yourself. Plus a good insight into some people usually just seen as figures in the background. Elaine :rose: The tigress is here :-D

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                  peterchen
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                  Trollslayer wrote: let your work things out for yourself No No No No!!!! This would KILL the box office!!! I Mean just one Hillybillyredneckwoodwhacko not getting every joke :omg: :omg: :omg: this would be, like, total annihilation of Hollywood! Now, be a good girl, and watch the latest "teenager comedy" of the year 2004. :rolleyes:


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                  • K KaRl

                    Brian Delahunty wrote: contrary to popular belief he isn't an idiot Do you have any proof? :suss:


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                    Brian Delahunty
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                    Well if he's an idiot then it logicall follows that most of the americans that voted them in are idiots too. Although that could be true... ok.. I see your point. Regards, Brian Dela :-) http://www.briandela.com IE 6 required.
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                    • B Brian Delahunty

                      Well if he's an idiot then it logicall follows that most of the americans that voted them in are idiots too. Although that could be true... ok.. I see your point. Regards, Brian Dela :-) http://www.briandela.com IE 6 required.
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                      KaRl
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                      I won't go that far, but I will say it's not the first time people are mislead by the leaders they elect.


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