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  • C ColinDavies

    I thought too drunk was when you had to hug the ground to keep from falling over. LOL LOL I hate it when everything is spinning.

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    I hate it when everything is spinning. Me too, but 4 weeks this Friday is my 33rd birthday. May have to get maggoted out of respect of the good old days. :laugh: Michael Martin Pegasystems Pty Ltd Australia martm@pegasystems.com +61 413-004-018 "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone

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      No, Hockey is played on grass with a ball. No, it's not. There are maybe 13 people in the World who watch field hockey, or floor hockey for that matter, and a hundred million who watch Hockey I'm afraid that whatever your sensiblities, the battle for the default definition has long been decided. I made it into the Hayloft, a rather run-down country-and-western bar in my childhood hometown at 14. For a while I was pretty impressed with myself, but decided later the place was such a dive they just wanted the $2 I paid for the beer :) I'm having trouble figuring out why you're so wound up about it. Coming from a country with 30 Million people I was surprised at first at the lengths the US go to cover situations that could potentially result in legal liability. Waivers and disclaimers for everything. It has always amazed me that the US consumer is not expected to have any responsiblity. Spill a cup of coffee on yourself for example in Canada and you go to the bathroom and clean yourself up, and swear at yourself for being so careless. Do that in the US and you sue McDonalds for $1.8M and win. Ridiculous. I'm sure the over-the-top approach to the drinking age is a similar thing. I had a long talk with an officer in the US navy after I had to sign a waiver to walk through a WWII submarine in Hawaii. He said that he felt it was simply the result of having a capitalist population of 300 Million people. In other words a population size thing (where people become disconnected from one another enough that the sense of personal connection begins to erode) David http://www.dundas.com

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      No, it's not. There are maybe 13 people in the World who watch field hockey, or floor hockey for that matter, and a hundred million who watch Hockey I'm afraid that whatever your sensiblities, the battle for the default definition has long been decided. By the time I got through your epic tale i forgot to cover the whole Hockey thing. You are completely correct about Ice Hockey being so superior. Canada won Gold at the last Olympics didn't they? I'm talking Summer games here, the real Olympics. The Winter games were made up by snow bound countries who could run, jump or swim weren't they? Or is it a fact that the Ancient Greeks had skiing and skating events? Michael Martin Pegasystems Pty Ltd Australia martm@pegasystems.com +61 413-004-018 "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone

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        That's right you fucking Kiwi sheep lover. :-D Michael Martin Pegasystems Pty Ltd Australia martm@pegasystems.com +61 413-004-018 "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone

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        Ok you f***ing Underarm bowler who discriminates against Afghani's just because they throw there kids of ships.

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          No, Hockey is played on grass with a ball. No, it's not. There are maybe 13 people in the World who watch field hockey, or floor hockey for that matter, and a hundred million who watch Hockey I'm afraid that whatever your sensiblities, the battle for the default definition has long been decided. I made it into the Hayloft, a rather run-down country-and-western bar in my childhood hometown at 14. For a while I was pretty impressed with myself, but decided later the place was such a dive they just wanted the $2 I paid for the beer :) I'm having trouble figuring out why you're so wound up about it. Coming from a country with 30 Million people I was surprised at first at the lengths the US go to cover situations that could potentially result in legal liability. Waivers and disclaimers for everything. It has always amazed me that the US consumer is not expected to have any responsiblity. Spill a cup of coffee on yourself for example in Canada and you go to the bathroom and clean yourself up, and swear at yourself for being so careless. Do that in the US and you sue McDonalds for $1.8M and win. Ridiculous. I'm sure the over-the-top approach to the drinking age is a similar thing. I had a long talk with an officer in the US navy after I had to sign a waiver to walk through a WWII submarine in Hawaii. He said that he felt it was simply the result of having a capitalist population of 300 Million people. In other words a population size thing (where people become disconnected from one another enough that the sense of personal connection begins to erode) David http://www.dundas.com

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          David is it true that Canadians are wannabe Americans ?

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            I'm having trouble figuring out why you're so wound up about it. I'm not wound up about anything. David Wulff is closing in on me and I needed something to make multiple posts too. I thought it might be a topic that could run wild for a bit. All the good long threads always run while I'm asleep here in Australia or on the weekend when I'm out having a life. Just look at the last few days for an example. Plus I still don't get waiting till your 21. Next people will tell me that in the US you have to be married before you can have root. Just in case you get pregnant, you know, the whole consumer not having responsibility thing and all. Shit, how come we have failed to get gotten into the conversation even though we are about 6 layers deep in this post/response thing. :-D Michael Martin Pegasystems Pty Ltd Australia martm@pegasystems.com +61 413-004-018 "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone

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            Chris Maunder
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            Michael - you have to remember that Dave comes from the country that enjoys ice lawn bowls with broomsticks. how come we have failed to get gotten into the conversation If I had more energy I'd write a filter that randomly replaced that evil word with a more suitable word like "have", "become", "been able" or "recieved". Sure - the chances that the replacement phrase would fit in context is slim, but that's not the point. I'm too tired so instead I just ask that you slap yourself around the head for a bit. cheers, Chris Maunder (CodeProject)

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              Michael - you have to remember that Dave comes from the country that enjoys ice lawn bowls with broomsticks. how come we have failed to get gotten into the conversation If I had more energy I'd write a filter that randomly replaced that evil word with a more suitable word like "have", "become", "been able" or "recieved". Sure - the chances that the replacement phrase would fit in context is slim, but that's not the point. I'm too tired so instead I just ask that you slap yourself around the head for a bit. cheers, Chris Maunder (CodeProject)

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              No chance. i having to much fun shit stirring you, to stop and slap myself. :-D Michael Martin Pegasystems Pty Ltd Australia martm@pegasystems.com +61 413-004-018 "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone

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              • C ColinDavies

                Ok you f***ing Underarm bowler who discriminates against Afghani's just because they throw there kids of ships.

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                Ok you f***ing Underarm bowler who discriminates against Afghani's just because they throw there kids of ships. Well as a matter of fact the Afghani's were right on this one. If you can't swim we don't want you here. So the mothers were just ensuring that the swimming lesons had paid off. Now as someone from a country that inflicted Richard Hadlee on the world I wouldn't go mentioning anything about underarm bowling. Michael Martin Pegasystems Pty Ltd Australia martm@pegasystems.com +61 413-004-018 "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone

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                  Just want someone to explain to me why you must be 21 in the US to drink alcohol. At 18 you can vote, go to war, get married and have children. I remember reading somewhere that you can drive a car when you are 15. I just don't get waiting til your 21. I was in the US when I was 30. I had to show ID at an Ice Hockey game before I was served beer and before I was allowed to enter Cheers. Both times I was and looked older than the monkeys requesting the ID. Was pissed off severely at the time but laugh about it now. OK, I'm just trying to kick off a long winded contraversial thread. ;P Michael Martin Pegasystems Pty Ltd Australia martm@pegasystems.com +61 413-004-018 "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone

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                  To be honest, I've spent time in both the States and in Europe .. and from my experience it seems as though Europeans are more mature than most Americans. The drinking age is lower because they can handle themselves (in general). I live in Germany and there are more pubs downtown than anything else, everybodies getting drunk and there's barely any DUI's here .. in fact the only problems occur from the military people -- not the Germans. Travis D. Mathison --- --- After three days without programming .. life becomes meaningless ...

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                    No, it's not. There are maybe 13 people in the World who watch field hockey, or floor hockey for that matter, and a hundred million who watch Hockey I'm afraid that whatever your sensiblities, the battle for the default definition has long been decided. By the time I got through your epic tale i forgot to cover the whole Hockey thing. You are completely correct about Ice Hockey being so superior. Canada won Gold at the last Olympics didn't they? I'm talking Summer games here, the real Olympics. The Winter games were made up by snow bound countries who could run, jump or swim weren't they? Or is it a fact that the Ancient Greeks had skiing and skating events? Michael Martin Pegasystems Pty Ltd Australia martm@pegasystems.com +61 413-004-018 "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone

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                    No, Canada lost the bronze match to Finland and was fourth. The Czech republic won Gold and Russia got silver.

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                      Ok you f***ing Underarm bowler who discriminates against Afghani's just because they throw there kids of ships. Well as a matter of fact the Afghani's were right on this one. If you can't swim we don't want you here. So the mothers were just ensuring that the swimming lesons had paid off. Now as someone from a country that inflicted Richard Hadlee on the world I wouldn't go mentioning anything about underarm bowling. Michael Martin Pegasystems Pty Ltd Australia martm@pegasystems.com +61 413-004-018 "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone

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                      Well as a matter of fact the Afghani's were right on this one. If you can't swim we don't want you here. So the mothers were just ensuring that the swimming lesons had paid off. That just the kind of Humanitarian response that we expect from f***ing morons like you. Now as someone from a country that inflicted Richard Hadlee on the world I wouldn't go mentioning anything about underarm bowling. Leave Dick alone ( I've played golf with him and he's got a mean slice ) you stupid f***ing Slidneysider. What the f*** is pegasystems anyhow ?

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                        No, it's not. There are maybe 13 people in the World who watch field hockey, or floor hockey for that matter, and a hundred million who watch Hockey I'm afraid that whatever your sensiblities, the battle for the default definition has long been decided. By the time I got through your epic tale i forgot to cover the whole Hockey thing. You are completely correct about Ice Hockey being so superior. Canada won Gold at the last Olympics didn't they? I'm talking Summer games here, the real Olympics. The Winter games were made up by snow bound countries who could run, jump or swim weren't they? Or is it a fact that the Ancient Greeks had skiing and skating events? Michael Martin Pegasystems Pty Ltd Australia martm@pegasystems.com +61 413-004-018 "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone

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                        I'm talking Summer games here, the real Olympics. The Winter games were made up by snow bound countries who could run, jump or swim weren't they? Or is it a fact that the Ancient Greeks had skiing and skating events? You being Australian would know all about the Greeks F***ing Moron,

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                        • C Chris Maunder

                          The legal definition of drunk varies among states too. In CA you're legally drunk if you have .08% blood alcohol content. In other states it's as high as .10% Hmm - in Oz the definition of too drunk to drive is a BOL of 0.05%. The legal definition of just plain too drunk is (if I remember my law correctly) not remembering to unzip before you take a wizz. cheers, Chris Maunder (CodeProject)

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                          Or, as a I once saw a dude do in the mens room, holding your tie with both hands, while pissing your pants. Sweeeet... Christian Skovdal Andersen

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                          • C ColinDavies

                            I thought too drunk was when you had to hug the ground to keep from falling over. LOL LOL I hate it when everything is spinning.

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                            Paul Watson
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                            =) LOL, like the way his feet move. I hate it when everything is spinning. Isn't that the point of getting drunk? Apart from forgetting that is... lol regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge

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                              Just want someone to explain to me why you must be 21 in the US to drink alcohol. At 18 you can vote, go to war, get married and have children. I remember reading somewhere that you can drive a car when you are 15. I just don't get waiting til your 21. I was in the US when I was 30. I had to show ID at an Ice Hockey game before I was served beer and before I was allowed to enter Cheers. Both times I was and looked older than the monkeys requesting the ID. Was pissed off severely at the time but laugh about it now. OK, I'm just trying to kick off a long winded contraversial thread. ;P Michael Martin Pegasystems Pty Ltd Australia martm@pegasystems.com +61 413-004-018 "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone

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                              James Pullicino
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                              In Malta, the drinking age is 16, it is not enforced however... I started drinking at 14, some of my friends started earlier. I pity the Americans and Canadians... you are sooo restricted. (2b || !2b)

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                                Just want someone to explain to me why you must be 21 in the US to drink alcohol. At 18 you can vote, go to war, get married and have children. I remember reading somewhere that you can drive a car when you are 15. I just don't get waiting til your 21. I was in the US when I was 30. I had to show ID at an Ice Hockey game before I was served beer and before I was allowed to enter Cheers. Both times I was and looked older than the monkeys requesting the ID. Was pissed off severely at the time but laugh about it now. OK, I'm just trying to kick off a long winded contraversial thread. ;P Michael Martin Pegasystems Pty Ltd Australia martm@pegasystems.com +61 413-004-018 "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone

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                                "A 18 year old kid walks into Buds Bottle Store. He steps up to the counter and asks for a six pack of Bud. The owner asks for his ID and refuses to sell him the six pack. The kid is seriously hacked off by this and storms out. Thinking, the kid goes down to Garths Gun Store. He asks for a 9mil semi automatic wadda wadda. The owner sells it to him happily, along with a free round of ammo. The kid then goes back to Buds Bottle Store, points the gun at Bud (the owner) and asks again for a six pack. Bud does not refuse this time." I think that explains the stupidity of the law. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge

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                                  Michael - you have to remember that Dave comes from the country that enjoys ice lawn bowls with broomsticks. how come we have failed to get gotten into the conversation If I had more energy I'd write a filter that randomly replaced that evil word with a more suitable word like "have", "become", "been able" or "recieved". Sure - the chances that the replacement phrase would fit in context is slim, but that's not the point. I'm too tired so instead I just ask that you slap yourself around the head for a bit. cheers, Chris Maunder (CodeProject)

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                                  > If I had more energy I'd write a filter that randomly replaced that evil word with a more > suitable word like "have", "become", "been able" or "recieved". Sure - the chances that the > replacement phrase would fit in context is slim, but that's not the point. You should replace the word with one selected randomly from a list of other words. I personally can't stand the word "tastey". To hell with those thin-skinned pillow-biters. - Me, 10/03/2001

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                                    "A 18 year old kid walks into Buds Bottle Store. He steps up to the counter and asks for a six pack of Bud. The owner asks for his ID and refuses to sell him the six pack. The kid is seriously hacked off by this and storms out. Thinking, the kid goes down to Garths Gun Store. He asks for a 9mil semi automatic wadda wadda. The owner sells it to him happily, along with a free round of ammo. The kid then goes back to Buds Bottle Store, points the gun at Bud (the owner) and asks again for a six pack. Bud does not refuse this time." I think that explains the stupidity of the law. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge

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                                    Well, there is a minimum 5-day waiting period to *legally* purchase a firearm. To hell with those thin-skinned pillow-biters. - Me, 10/03/2001

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                                      Well, there is a minimum 5-day waiting period to *legally* purchase a firearm. To hell with those thin-skinned pillow-biters. - Me, 10/03/2001

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                                      jan larsen
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                                      Now that seems highly appropriate, this ensures that if you still wants to wipe out your colleques at the post office after 5 days, then at least you have spent some time thinking about it...:-D "It could have been worse, it could have been ME!"

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                                        Well, there is a minimum 5-day waiting period to *legally* purchase a firearm. To hell with those thin-skinned pillow-biters. - Me, 10/03/2001

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                                        Well, that is a relief! Now I can breath easy. Five whole days! ;P Do you have any idea on the statistics of # of armed crimes vs. legally bought firearms? i.e. How many crimes involving a weapon involved a legally bought weapon? I know that down south (Africa) something like 75% of all armed-crimes are comitted with stolen or illegal weapons. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge

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                                          Well, that is a relief! Now I can breath easy. Five whole days! ;P Do you have any idea on the statistics of # of armed crimes vs. legally bought firearms? i.e. How many crimes involving a weapon involved a legally bought weapon? I know that down south (Africa) something like 75% of all armed-crimes are comitted with stolen or illegal weapons. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge

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                                          Hey, I didn't write the law. I think five days is too long. I think that if you're gonna go on a killing spree, the reasons should be fresh in your mind. To hell with those thin-skinned pillow-biters. - Me, 10/03/2001

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