I need an advice..
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Sorry about this guys and gals, but I'm running short on ideas here. I need a tab-control with a look and functionality like the one used in Visual Studio 2003 - you know, the one with forward, backward and close buttons in the right corner. I have tried the Magic TabControl - VS.NET Style[^] here from CP (which is the 1.7 version) and the 1.7.4 version from sourceforge. Both seem to have problems hosting user controls with context menus (from ComponentOne) as they seem to "eat" events. I've then checked with componentOne again - but they haven't got a tab-control. Next, I looked at Infragistics, which seem to have everything but that control and codejock.com is more os less the same. It can do it, but only if you have a MDI form, which I haven't. So, what would you recommend ? I just need the tab control. No more - no less :o) I wouldn't say that price doesn't matter, but it doesn't have to be free at least. Besides - why is it that MS never releases the "cool" controls such at the tab control and the property grid in some decent versions. They use them intensively, but everybody else is stuck with 3'rd party controls. I thought that it would be in their own interest that we make applications supporting the "new" look. But hey. I was wrong :-D Well - I'm looking forward to seeing your best bid for a tab control. Thanks a lot in advance. /Jan Do you know why it's important to make fast decisions? Because you give yourself more time to correct your mistakes, when you find out that you made the wrong one. Chris Meech on deciding whether to go to his daughters graduation or a Neil Young concert
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Sorry about this guys and gals, but I'm running short on ideas here. I need a tab-control with a look and functionality like the one used in Visual Studio 2003 - you know, the one with forward, backward and close buttons in the right corner. I have tried the Magic TabControl - VS.NET Style[^] here from CP (which is the 1.7 version) and the 1.7.4 version from sourceforge. Both seem to have problems hosting user controls with context menus (from ComponentOne) as they seem to "eat" events. I've then checked with componentOne again - but they haven't got a tab-control. Next, I looked at Infragistics, which seem to have everything but that control and codejock.com is more os less the same. It can do it, but only if you have a MDI form, which I haven't. So, what would you recommend ? I just need the tab control. No more - no less :o) I wouldn't say that price doesn't matter, but it doesn't have to be free at least. Besides - why is it that MS never releases the "cool" controls such at the tab control and the property grid in some decent versions. They use them intensively, but everybody else is stuck with 3'rd party controls. I thought that it would be in their own interest that we make applications supporting the "new" look. But hey. I was wrong :-D Well - I'm looking forward to seeing your best bid for a tab control. Thanks a lot in advance. /Jan Do you know why it's important to make fast decisions? Because you give yourself more time to correct your mistakes, when you find out that you made the wrong one. Chris Meech on deciding whether to go to his daughters graduation or a Neil Young concert
Jan R Hansen wrote: I thought that it would be in their own interest that we make applications supporting the "new" look. You must remember, Microsoft is like Walmart - everyone is their competitor, even their customers. Can't be making things too easy for your competition now!
Shog9 ---
You'd better turn back, before the frost sets in. These desert nights are for weathered men, The ones who've already given in...
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Sorry about this guys and gals, but I'm running short on ideas here. I need a tab-control with a look and functionality like the one used in Visual Studio 2003 - you know, the one with forward, backward and close buttons in the right corner. I have tried the Magic TabControl - VS.NET Style[^] here from CP (which is the 1.7 version) and the 1.7.4 version from sourceforge. Both seem to have problems hosting user controls with context menus (from ComponentOne) as they seem to "eat" events. I've then checked with componentOne again - but they haven't got a tab-control. Next, I looked at Infragistics, which seem to have everything but that control and codejock.com is more os less the same. It can do it, but only if you have a MDI form, which I haven't. So, what would you recommend ? I just need the tab control. No more - no less :o) I wouldn't say that price doesn't matter, but it doesn't have to be free at least. Besides - why is it that MS never releases the "cool" controls such at the tab control and the property grid in some decent versions. They use them intensively, but everybody else is stuck with 3'rd party controls. I thought that it would be in their own interest that we make applications supporting the "new" look. But hey. I was wrong :-D Well - I'm looking forward to seeing your best bid for a tab control. Thanks a lot in advance. /Jan Do you know why it's important to make fast decisions? Because you give yourself more time to correct your mistakes, when you find out that you made the wrong one. Chris Meech on deciding whether to go to his daughters graduation or a Neil Young concert
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Sorry about this guys and gals, but I'm running short on ideas here. I need a tab-control with a look and functionality like the one used in Visual Studio 2003 - you know, the one with forward, backward and close buttons in the right corner. I have tried the Magic TabControl - VS.NET Style[^] here from CP (which is the 1.7 version) and the 1.7.4 version from sourceforge. Both seem to have problems hosting user controls with context menus (from ComponentOne) as they seem to "eat" events. I've then checked with componentOne again - but they haven't got a tab-control. Next, I looked at Infragistics, which seem to have everything but that control and codejock.com is more os less the same. It can do it, but only if you have a MDI form, which I haven't. So, what would you recommend ? I just need the tab control. No more - no less :o) I wouldn't say that price doesn't matter, but it doesn't have to be free at least. Besides - why is it that MS never releases the "cool" controls such at the tab control and the property grid in some decent versions. They use them intensively, but everybody else is stuck with 3'rd party controls. I thought that it would be in their own interest that we make applications supporting the "new" look. But hey. I was wrong :-D Well - I'm looking forward to seeing your best bid for a tab control. Thanks a lot in advance. /Jan Do you know why it's important to make fast decisions? Because you give yourself more time to correct your mistakes, when you find out that you made the wrong one. Chris Meech on deciding whether to go to his daughters graduation or a Neil Young concert
Jan R Hansen wrote: "cool" controls such at the tab control and the property grid Can't help you with the tab control; but you can use the property grid. For whatever reason MS decided to not have it added to the toolbox by default. Open up the toolbox, then go to the winforms tab; right click and choose Add/Remove Toolbox Items (whatever its called). [edit]I think you may have to switch to the .NET Components tab first[/edit] Scroll down the list and you'll eventually see PropertyGrid, slap a check mark next to it and you are ready to go. Unless you meant something else :~ James "When you get frunk whats really fuinny is that you dont really realize you are cdtrunk till you are too drunk and by thewn you are too drunk to give a damn about being drubnk :-0" A drunk Nish over Sonork
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Jan R Hansen wrote: "cool" controls such at the tab control and the property grid Can't help you with the tab control; but you can use the property grid. For whatever reason MS decided to not have it added to the toolbox by default. Open up the toolbox, then go to the winforms tab; right click and choose Add/Remove Toolbox Items (whatever its called). [edit]I think you may have to switch to the .NET Components tab first[/edit] Scroll down the list and you'll eventually see PropertyGrid, slap a check mark next to it and you are ready to go. Unless you meant something else :~ James "When you get frunk whats really fuinny is that you dont really realize you are cdtrunk till you are too drunk and by thewn you are too drunk to give a damn about being drubnk :-0" A drunk Nish over Sonork
thanks ! I read an article about using the MS propertygrid here on CP, but as far as I remember it was a bit more difficult than e.g. VSFlexGrid which is terribly easy :o) But then again - I might be wrong. Sad to hear about the tab control though. It must be out there, though. Can you (or anyone else) mention other big 3'rd party control developers except from ComponentOne and Infragistics ? Do you know why it's important to make fast decisions? Because you give yourself more time to correct your mistakes, when you find out that you made the wrong one. Chris Meech on deciding whether to go to his daughters graduation or a Neil Young concert
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hmm.. yes. But after all - I believe that the primary reason that large packages like ComponentOne's exist is that writing a complete, bugfree ready-to-use-in-production control is a huge task. So it's enough to keep several developers occupied. We could probably make one no better than the DotNetMagic tab control - but to ensure that it works on several platforms etc. would be a huge task. So I'd rather buy a complete solution and concentrate on the application itself. Looks like I'm stuck with good ol' Microsoft here... yaks. Their tab control hasn't been updated since.. win98 I think. Not with respect to the UI at least. Do you know why it's important to make fast decisions? Because you give yourself more time to correct your mistakes, when you find out that you made the wrong one. Chris Meech on deciding whether to go to his daughters graduation or a Neil Young concert
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Jan R Hansen wrote: I thought that it would be in their own interest that we make applications supporting the "new" look. You must remember, Microsoft is like Walmart - everyone is their competitor, even their customers. Can't be making things too easy for your competition now!
Shog9 ---
You'd better turn back, before the frost sets in. These desert nights are for weathered men, The ones who've already given in...
you're probably right. But thanks anyway :o) Do you know why it's important to make fast decisions? Because you give yourself more time to correct your mistakes, when you find out that you made the wrong one. Chris Meech on deciding whether to go to his daughters graduation or a Neil Young concert
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thanks ! I read an article about using the MS propertygrid here on CP, but as far as I remember it was a bit more difficult than e.g. VSFlexGrid which is terribly easy :o) But then again - I might be wrong. Sad to hear about the tab control though. It must be out there, though. Can you (or anyone else) mention other big 3'rd party control developers except from ComponentOne and Infragistics ? Do you know why it's important to make fast decisions? Because you give yourself more time to correct your mistakes, when you find out that you made the wrong one. Chris Meech on deciding whether to go to his daughters graduation or a Neil Young concert
Jan R Hansen wrote: I read an article about using the MS propertygrid here on CP, but as far as I remember it was a bit more difficult than e.g. VSFlexGrid which is terribly easy The basics of the grid are easy; just slap it on your form/control then set the SelectedObject property of the grid to the instance of the object you want to show. As long as the class you assigned to the grid has all of the design time attributes on its members, the grid should work fairly similar to the VS.NET property grid. VS.NET does some customization in the design time environment to customize some things, such as the Name property. That code is written in C# so you can use any of the C# decompilers to peek at how they do it. I believe the code is in System.Design.dll; but I can't remember which class/method to look in :doh:. Jan R Hansen wrote: Can you (or anyone else) mention other big 3'rd party control developers except from ComponentOne and Infragistics ? I haven't used them but here are a few: Xceed's Smart UI[^], Data Dynamics SharpUI[^] and SharpLibrary[^]. The last one should look familiar since the author had his controls posted on CodeProject for a while, before he went commercial. It looks like they've since been removed from CodeProject. James "When you get frunk whats really fuinny is that you dont really realize you are cdtrunk till you are too drunk and by thewn you are too drunk to give a damn about being drubnk :-0" A drunk Nish over Sonork
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thanks ! I read an article about using the MS propertygrid here on CP, but as far as I remember it was a bit more difficult than e.g. VSFlexGrid which is terribly easy :o) But then again - I might be wrong. Sad to hear about the tab control though. It must be out there, though. Can you (or anyone else) mention other big 3'rd party control developers except from ComponentOne and Infragistics ? Do you know why it's important to make fast decisions? Because you give yourself more time to correct your mistakes, when you find out that you made the wrong one. Chris Meech on deciding whether to go to his daughters graduation or a Neil Young concert
I found the Microsoft Forms 2.0 Multipage and TabStrip controls on my PC, and instructions for using them in this article[^]. Does that help? "Another day done - All targets met; all systems fully operational; all customers satisfied; all staff keen and well motivated; all pigs fed and ready to fly" - Jennie A.
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thanks ! I read an article about using the MS propertygrid here on CP, but as far as I remember it was a bit more difficult than e.g. VSFlexGrid which is terribly easy :o) But then again - I might be wrong. Sad to hear about the tab control though. It must be out there, though. Can you (or anyone else) mention other big 3'rd party control developers except from ComponentOne and Infragistics ? Do you know why it's important to make fast decisions? Because you give yourself more time to correct your mistakes, when you find out that you made the wrong one. Chris Meech on deciding whether to go to his daughters graduation or a Neil Young concert
Hello Jan, I am not sure if you use C++ or another language of .NET. Anyway, there is another third party PropertyGrid called GWCPropertiesCtrl. We use it in CAE and it is pretty good. I am waiting the newest version that will be released shortly. With this one, I think it will be better than codejockey. The site is Aircom but it will change to VisualHint. I think it is a one man company but the guy behind is great for support, you can ask him anything.