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  • A Anna Jayne Metcalfe

    I've been keeping an eye on the logs for my site, and over the last year the monthly bandwidth has been creaping up gradually, from 690MB/month last February to 1013MB/month by October. That's not come as a surprise, given the number of people I've met in the last couple of years and the gradually increasing content of the site. The site's hosted by Easily[^], whose rates are pretty reasonable...but I do have to pay for any bandwidth over the initial allocation of 5 GB/year. When I checked the logs in late December I noticed that the bandwidth useage has shot up to 3392MB/month - and the stats for January look like continuing that trend (and in fact, being even higher!) The increase is largely due to others reading my account of my recent trip to Thailand - in fact the index page for my recent surgery is responsible for the highest bandwidth consumption of all files on the site - including the (much larger) ResOrg downloads. This has got me thinking about HTML compression. Although I've experimented with HtmlCompress[^] in the past, I found it tended to mess up formatting so I ditched it fairly quickly. Html2Zip[^] does look promising though. It zips the HTML files uploaded to the server, so that when a page is requested, the zipped copy is downloaded and unzipped client side. A copy of the original unzipped page is also stored on the server in case the browser isn't compatible. It seems very promising (and pretty cheap at $28.95), but I do wonder about possible pitfalls - e.g. browser compatibility. Has anyone out there used it, and if so what are your experiences? Any suggested alternatives? Anna :rose: Homepage | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work. Trouble with resource IDs? Try the Resource ID Organiser Visual C++ Add-In

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    Doesn't your provider use HTTP compression? Most web servers can GZIP content on the fly (Apache and IIS can) - just few hosting services seem to turn it on. -- Ian Darling "The moral of the story is that with a contrived example, you can prove anything." - Joel Spolsky

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    • A Anna Jayne Metcalfe

      I've been keeping an eye on the logs for my site, and over the last year the monthly bandwidth has been creaping up gradually, from 690MB/month last February to 1013MB/month by October. That's not come as a surprise, given the number of people I've met in the last couple of years and the gradually increasing content of the site. The site's hosted by Easily[^], whose rates are pretty reasonable...but I do have to pay for any bandwidth over the initial allocation of 5 GB/year. When I checked the logs in late December I noticed that the bandwidth useage has shot up to 3392MB/month - and the stats for January look like continuing that trend (and in fact, being even higher!) The increase is largely due to others reading my account of my recent trip to Thailand - in fact the index page for my recent surgery is responsible for the highest bandwidth consumption of all files on the site - including the (much larger) ResOrg downloads. This has got me thinking about HTML compression. Although I've experimented with HtmlCompress[^] in the past, I found it tended to mess up formatting so I ditched it fairly quickly. Html2Zip[^] does look promising though. It zips the HTML files uploaded to the server, so that when a page is requested, the zipped copy is downloaded and unzipped client side. A copy of the original unzipped page is also stored on the server in case the browser isn't compatible. It seems very promising (and pretty cheap at $28.95), but I do wonder about possible pitfalls - e.g. browser compatibility. Has anyone out there used it, and if so what are your experiences? Any suggested alternatives? Anna :rose: Homepage | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work. Trouble with resource IDs? Try the Resource ID Organiser Visual C++ Add-In

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      Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: 5 GB/year :wtf: I hope your not paying good money for that! If so, you're being totaly ripped off. Jeremy Falcon

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      • A Anna Jayne Metcalfe

        I've been keeping an eye on the logs for my site, and over the last year the monthly bandwidth has been creaping up gradually, from 690MB/month last February to 1013MB/month by October. That's not come as a surprise, given the number of people I've met in the last couple of years and the gradually increasing content of the site. The site's hosted by Easily[^], whose rates are pretty reasonable...but I do have to pay for any bandwidth over the initial allocation of 5 GB/year. When I checked the logs in late December I noticed that the bandwidth useage has shot up to 3392MB/month - and the stats for January look like continuing that trend (and in fact, being even higher!) The increase is largely due to others reading my account of my recent trip to Thailand - in fact the index page for my recent surgery is responsible for the highest bandwidth consumption of all files on the site - including the (much larger) ResOrg downloads. This has got me thinking about HTML compression. Although I've experimented with HtmlCompress[^] in the past, I found it tended to mess up formatting so I ditched it fairly quickly. Html2Zip[^] does look promising though. It zips the HTML files uploaded to the server, so that when a page is requested, the zipped copy is downloaded and unzipped client side. A copy of the original unzipped page is also stored on the server in case the browser isn't compatible. It seems very promising (and pretty cheap at $28.95), but I do wonder about possible pitfalls - e.g. browser compatibility. Has anyone out there used it, and if so what are your experiences? Any suggested alternatives? Anna :rose: Homepage | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work. Trouble with resource IDs? Try the Resource ID Organiser Visual C++ Add-In

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        Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: Any suggested alternatives? Get ADSL and host it yourself? :)


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          Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: 5 GB/year :wtf: I hope your not paying good money for that! If so, you're being totaly ripped off. Jeremy Falcon

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          Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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          Remember it's not a commercial site...and the bandwidth allowance rolls over from month to month (unlike some hosts). It seems like a reasonable deal, and until recently bandwidth hasn't been an issue. Basic hosting (which is all I need) is £16.99/year, with bandwidth at £0.0025/MB. The packages they offer are listed at http://easily.co.uk/index.php3?exe=virtualhosting[^] if you want to give me some price comparisons. If it looks worthwhile to move the site, I will. Anna :rose: Homepage | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work. Trouble with resource IDs? Try the Resource ID Organiser Visual C++ Add-In

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            Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: Any suggested alternatives? Get ADSL and host it yourself? :)


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            My room's cluttered enough without trying to shoehorn in a web server! I doubt NTL would like me too much if I did, either - I'm pretty sure they have a clause in their UK contracts forbidding web hosting using their cable modem connections. Anna :rose: Homepage | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work. Trouble with resource IDs? Try the Resource ID Organiser Visual C++ Add-In

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              Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: Any suggested alternatives? Get ADSL and host it yourself? :)


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              Megan Forbes wrote: host it yourself? ISPs in the US take a very dim view of that, though given the tiny amount of traffic caused by personal sites there's no reason for them to be so tight about it.:( "Another day done - All targets met; all systems fully operational; all customers satisfied; all staff keen and well motivated; all pigs fed and ready to fly" - Jennie A.

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                Megan Forbes wrote: host it yourself? ISPs in the US take a very dim view of that, though given the tiny amount of traffic caused by personal sites there's no reason for them to be so tight about it.:( "Another day done - All targets met; all systems fully operational; all customers satisfied; all staff keen and well motivated; all pigs fed and ready to fly" - Jennie A.

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                They aren't too keen on it here either, but plenty of people seem to get away with it :). Unfortunately Anna (like me) is apparently using NTL who seem to be the worst about it. Incredibly one of the things Brendan and I will take into consideration when moving next is who serves the area with broadband :rolleyes:.


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                • A Anna Jayne Metcalfe

                  Remember it's not a commercial site...and the bandwidth allowance rolls over from month to month (unlike some hosts). It seems like a reasonable deal, and until recently bandwidth hasn't been an issue. Basic hosting (which is all I need) is £16.99/year, with bandwidth at £0.0025/MB. The packages they offer are listed at http://easily.co.uk/index.php3?exe=virtualhosting[^] if you want to give me some price comparisons. If it looks worthwhile to move the site, I will. Anna :rose: Homepage | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work. Trouble with resource IDs? Try the Resource ID Organiser Visual C++ Add-In

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                  Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: £16.99/year Ah ok, as long as you pay that yearly instead of monthly it seems fair enough. Jeremy Falcon

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                  • A Anna Jayne Metcalfe

                    Remember it's not a commercial site...and the bandwidth allowance rolls over from month to month (unlike some hosts). It seems like a reasonable deal, and until recently bandwidth hasn't been an issue. Basic hosting (which is all I need) is £16.99/year, with bandwidth at £0.0025/MB. The packages they offer are listed at http://easily.co.uk/index.php3?exe=virtualhosting[^] if you want to give me some price comparisons. If it looks worthwhile to move the site, I will. Anna :rose: Homepage | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work. Trouble with resource IDs? Try the Resource ID Organiser Visual C++ Add-In

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                    How about Doteasy[^]? $0 hosting, 1GB Monthly Transfer, etc. Weiye, Chen When pursuing your dreams, don't forget to enjoy your life...

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                      Megan Forbes wrote: host it yourself? ISPs in the US take a very dim view of that, though given the tiny amount of traffic caused by personal sites there's no reason for them to be so tight about it.:( "Another day done - All targets met; all systems fully operational; all customers satisfied; all staff keen and well motivated; all pigs fed and ready to fly" - Jennie A.

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                      It's not about bandwidth; it's about money. :| For the cable modem providers around here they prefer you buy a corporate package nowadays to do that. I haven't seen any DSL providers with the same restrictions, although I haven't used many of them personally so who knows. Jeremy Falcon

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                        They aren't too keen on it here either, but plenty of people seem to get away with it :). Unfortunately Anna (like me) is apparently using NTL who seem to be the worst about it. Incredibly one of the things Brendan and I will take into consideration when moving next is who serves the area with broadband :rolleyes:.


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                        Meg's World - Blog Photography

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                        Megan Forbes wrote: They aren't too keen on it here either, but plenty of people seem to get away with it Yup (points at self) :-D Eclipse (my ISP) don't seem to have a problem with me hosting stuff on my DSL connection. -- Ian Darling "The moral of the story is that with a contrived example, you can prove anything." - Joel Spolsky

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                          It's not about bandwidth; it's about money. :| For the cable modem providers around here they prefer you buy a corporate package nowadays to do that. I haven't seen any DSL providers with the same restrictions, although I haven't used many of them personally so who knows. Jeremy Falcon

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                          None of our providers here offers hosting services, yet they get quite nasty about people operating servers on their systems. I can only assume that bandwidth is their concern, since they clearly have no interest in competing in the web server market. My own ISP has a disclaimer on the front page of their website : "Server activity will not be tolerated and will result in service disconnect." Twits. My server doesn't get many hits - there's no reason why it should. And I strongly doubt that any individual website will present a noticable load on the network. "Another day done - All targets met; all systems fully operational; all customers satisfied; all staff keen and well motivated; all pigs fed and ready to fly" - Jennie A.

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                            They aren't too keen on it here either, but plenty of people seem to get away with it :). Unfortunately Anna (like me) is apparently using NTL who seem to be the worst about it. Incredibly one of the things Brendan and I will take into consideration when moving next is who serves the area with broadband :rolleyes:.


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                            Afraid so...my connection is a 160K cable modem for £17.99/month. It works well enough, and means I don't have to deal with BT for the phone either... X| Anna :rose: Homepage | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work. Trouble with resource IDs? Try the Resource ID Organiser Visual C++ Add-In

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                              Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: £16.99/year Ah ok, as long as you pay that yearly instead of monthly it seems fair enough. Jeremy Falcon

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                              I thought you might say that... ;) Anna :rose: Homepage | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work. Trouble with resource IDs? Try the Resource ID Organiser Visual C++ Add-In

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                                How about Doteasy[^]? $0 hosting, 1GB Monthly Transfer, etc. Weiye, Chen When pursuing your dreams, don't forget to enjoy your life...

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                                The disk space allowance and bandwidth are too low for my site I'm afraid. Looking at the current stats I need to budget for 100MB disk space and 4GB/month bandwidth. They don't seem to have packages which are flexible enough for my needs. Anna :rose: Homepage | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work. Trouble with resource IDs? Try the Resource ID Organiser Visual C++ Add-In

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                                  They aren't too keen on it here either, but plenty of people seem to get away with it :). Unfortunately Anna (like me) is apparently using NTL who seem to be the worst about it. Incredibly one of the things Brendan and I will take into consideration when moving next is who serves the area with broadband :rolleyes:.


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                                  Megan Forbes wrote: Incredibly one of the things Brendan and I will take into consideration when moving next is who serves the area with broadband There's nothing incredible about it. We live in a connected society and, as a result, we take for granted that certain things are necessary including high-capacity data connections. My parents would think that daft, but they have no real grasp of what change has come over the world because of the Internet. They still live in their small world of local grocery stores and banks, and miss the milkman who used to come by every morning. Even most of my peers would never think to ask about connectivity when making a location change, as they don't live in a truly technological world, but are mired in a mindset canalized 20 or 30 years ago. For me, broadband access would be a high priority, but I'm one of the few people who has spent a lifetime dwelling in a technical world and pioneering some of the things that modern technology has been built upon. We geeks remain a minority, and probably always will be, misunderstood, ridiculed, and absolutely necessary to stave off stagnation. "Another day done - All targets met; all systems fully operational; all customers satisfied; all staff keen and well motivated; all pigs fed and ready to fly" - Jennie A.

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                                    Doesn't your provider use HTTP compression? Most web servers can GZIP content on the fly (Apache and IIS can) - just few hosting services seem to turn it on. -- Ian Darling "The moral of the story is that with a contrived example, you can prove anything." - Joel Spolsky

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                                    Thanks for the tip Ian. :) I can't see anything about it in Easily's info so I've emailed their support people to ask whether their servers are configured to support it. Anna :rose: Homepage | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work. Trouble with resource IDs? Try the Resource ID Organiser Visual C++ Add-In

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                                      Thanks for the tip Ian. :) I can't see anything about it in Easily's info so I've emailed their support people to ask whether their servers are configured to support it. Anna :rose: Homepage | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work. Trouble with resource IDs? Try the Resource ID Organiser Visual C++ Add-In

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                                      Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: Thanks for the tip Ian. No worries Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: I can't see anything about it in Easily's info so I've emailed their support people to ask whether their servers are configured to support it. Hopefully they will turn it on. HTTP compression can make a huge difference to performance and bandwidth - particularly over dial-up or low end BB. We used it on a web project here where some users were on ISDN, and some on DSL. Initially, the ISDN users found it far too slow to use, but switching compression on helped considerably, to the point where the speed difference wasn't really noticable between the two (for the most part, anyway) And the fact that it'll take more page hits to push your bandwidth bill up is merely an added bonus :-D -- Ian Darling "The moral of the story is that with a contrived example, you can prove anything." - Joel Spolsky

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                                        Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: Thanks for the tip Ian. No worries Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: I can't see anything about it in Easily's info so I've emailed their support people to ask whether their servers are configured to support it. Hopefully they will turn it on. HTTP compression can make a huge difference to performance and bandwidth - particularly over dial-up or low end BB. We used it on a web project here where some users were on ISDN, and some on DSL. Initially, the ISDN users found it far too slow to use, but switching compression on helped considerably, to the point where the speed difference wasn't really noticable between the two (for the most part, anyway) And the fact that it'll take more page hits to push your bandwidth bill up is merely an added bonus :-D -- Ian Darling "The moral of the story is that with a contrived example, you can prove anything." - Joel Spolsky

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                                        "Thank you for your query. Please note our servers are configured for GZIP compression yet we do not offer any support in this area. If you know how to do the coding to zip files on the fly then it should be fine." Any suggestions on how to do this? According to their help info[^] the servers are running Apache 1.3. Anna :rose: Homepage | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work. Trouble with resource IDs? Try the Resource ID Organiser Visual C++ Add-In

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                                          "Thank you for your query. Please note our servers are configured for GZIP compression yet we do not offer any support in this area. If you know how to do the coding to zip files on the fly then it should be fine." Any suggestions on how to do this? According to their help info[^] the servers are running Apache 1.3. Anna :rose: Homepage | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work. Trouble with resource IDs? Try the Resource ID Organiser Visual C++ Add-In

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                                          I'm not too familiar with HTML compression, but I'll takes some GUESSES :). I'm GUESSING that means they've installed mod_gzip on the Apache server. I'm not too familiar with how it all works, but I'm GUESSING some google searches with "Apache mod_gzip" will start pointing you in the right direction.


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