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Windows Source Code - where?

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    Michael Pauli
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    How to get a look at the 660mb code snippet MainSoft released of Win2k? Download from where? If you know anything I'm interested. It should equal 15% of OS. Thanks in advance. Regards, Michael Mogensen, mm it-consult dk. ><((((º> ·.¸¸.· ><((((º> ·.¸¸.· ><((((º>

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      How to get a look at the 660mb code snippet MainSoft released of Win2k? Download from where? If you know anything I'm interested. It should equal 15% of OS. Thanks in advance. Regards, Michael Mogensen, mm it-consult dk. ><((((º> ·.¸¸.· ><((((º> ·.¸¸.· ><((((º>

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      Personally I wouldn't touch it with a barge pole. I'd be too worried that I'd remember some detail of the code not disclosed in the public API's and thus open to legal action some time down the track. The people who wrote the Phoenix BIOS didn't use clean room conditions on a whim - they knew what they were doing. I suspect the same principle might apply here. Rob Manderson **Paul Watson wrote:**What sense would you most dislike loosing? Ian Darling replied. Telepathy Then I'd no longer be able to find out everyones dirty little secrets The Lounge, December 4 2003

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        How to get a look at the 660mb code snippet MainSoft released of Win2k? Download from where? If you know anything I'm interested. It should equal 15% of OS. Thanks in advance. Regards, Michael Mogensen, mm it-consult dk. ><((((º> ·.¸¸.· ><((((º> ·.¸¸.· ><((((º>

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        Ian Darling
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        Michael Mogensen wrote: How to get a look at the 660mb code snippet MainSoft released of Win2k? Download from where? If you know anything I'm interested. It should equal 15% of OS. Thanks in advance. I second what Rob said. But if you really want to risk the legal beagles at Microsoft jumping on you, try the peer-to-peer networks and warez sites.


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          Michael Mogensen wrote: How to get a look at the 660mb code snippet MainSoft released of Win2k? Download from where? If you know anything I'm interested. It should equal 15% of OS. Thanks in advance. I second what Rob said. But if you really want to risk the legal beagles at Microsoft jumping on you, try the peer-to-peer networks and warez sites.


          Ian Darling "One of the few systems...which has had “no deaths” in the reliability requirements." - Michael Platt

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          Ian Darling wrote: try the peer-to-peer networks and warez sites Warez sites is nothing except the pop-ups and all porn ads. P2P is heaven, you find everything you want - even the Windows source code...:suss::~ Be carefull! Rickard Andersson Here is my card, contact me later! UIN: 50302279 Sonork: 37318

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            How to get a look at the 660mb code snippet MainSoft released of Win2k? Download from where? If you know anything I'm interested. It should equal 15% of OS. Thanks in advance. Regards, Michael Mogensen, mm it-consult dk. ><((((º> ·.¸¸.· ><((((º> ·.¸¸.· ><((((º>

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            Anders Molin
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            Michael Mogensen wrote: How to get a look at the 660mb code snippet MainSoft released of Win2k? Err, I would not use the word "released". - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!" ShotKeeper, my Photo Album / Organizer Application[^]

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              Ian Darling wrote: try the peer-to-peer networks and warez sites Warez sites is nothing except the pop-ups and all porn ads. P2P is heaven, you find everything you want - even the Windows source code...:suss::~ Be carefull! Rickard Andersson Here is my card, contact me later! UIN: 50302279 Sonork: 37318

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              Rickard Andersson - P2P Mercenary


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                How to get a look at the 660mb code snippet MainSoft released of Win2k? Download from where? If you know anything I'm interested. It should equal 15% of OS. Thanks in advance. Regards, Michael Mogensen, mm it-consult dk. ><((((º> ·.¸¸.· ><((((º> ·.¸¸.· ><((((º>

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                Daniel Turini
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                Ok, let me understand it: why? What will you learn there that you won't learn on Linux kernel and WINE? :confused: Perl combines all the worst aspects of C and Lisp: a billion different sublanguages in one monolithic executable. It combines the power of C with the readability of PostScript. -- Jamie Zawinski

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                  Personally I wouldn't touch it with a barge pole. I'd be too worried that I'd remember some detail of the code not disclosed in the public API's and thus open to legal action some time down the track. The people who wrote the Phoenix BIOS didn't use clean room conditions on a whim - they knew what they were doing. I suspect the same principle might apply here. Rob Manderson **Paul Watson wrote:**What sense would you most dislike loosing? Ian Darling replied. Telepathy Then I'd no longer be able to find out everyones dirty little secrets The Lounge, December 4 2003

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                  "I'd be too worried that I'd remember some detail of the code not disclosed in the public API's and thus open to legal action some time down the track." I wouldn't be in the least worried. I don't think you are going to find any brilliant algorithms in the Windows code. More likely, I would say most of the code has "evolved", rather than been designed, so even if you did understand it, you would probably say "Yuck! There is a much better way to implement that"

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                    Ok, let me understand it: why? What will you learn there that you won't learn on Linux kernel and WINE? :confused: Perl combines all the worst aspects of C and Lisp: a billion different sublanguages in one monolithic executable. It combines the power of C with the readability of PostScript. -- Jamie Zawinski

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                    Mike Dimmick
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                    How to write an operating system? ;-)

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                      How to write an operating system? ;-)

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                      How much better/secure a closed source os is? ;P

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                        How to write an operating system? ;-)

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                        And why do you believe that, by looking at partial (15%), illegaly obtained, unsuported, Windows2k source you will learn more about building OSes than looking at legal, fully documented and supported Linux source code? Just point your browser to http://www.kernel.org/ and take a look. LXR is a great tool to understand Linux source code. Pages like this are available on the internet that allow you to understand, a piece at a time, what that huge code base is doing. BTW, without reading texts or a book on OS building, both MS and Linux code won't help you nothing. You won't be able to learn from a single line of code. It's like trying to understand what is a doubly linked list or a neural network merely by looking at code highly optimized code, without knowing the underlying algorithms. You first need to understand what is thunking, ring 0, processor cache, etc... Perl combines all the worst aspects of C and Lisp: a billion different sublanguages in one monolithic executable. It combines the power of C with the readability of PostScript. -- Jamie Zawinski

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                          How to get a look at the 660mb code snippet MainSoft released of Win2k? Download from where? If you know anything I'm interested. It should equal 15% of OS. Thanks in advance. Regards, Michael Mogensen, mm it-consult dk. ><((((º> ·.¸¸.· ><((((º> ·.¸¸.· ><((((º>

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                          Again, I wonder why more people don't use IRC. I guess it's either too complicated or too "out of scope" for most "higher-end" computer professionals out there and remains a communication medium still used only by true geeks. After all, it is all-text, no flashy pictures or menus of people online, and no friendly user interface since it's targeted more toward unix environments than people's precious GUIs. Anyway, in the IRC sub-world the source was available everywhere almost instantaneously and those who wanted it either had it right away or had it by the time they woke up. The rest of you will be following broken links around the web for weeks until you happen to stumble across one that hasn't been taken down yet. - Jason (SonorkID 100.611) The Code Project - Orange makes the art grow fonder

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                            "I'd be too worried that I'd remember some detail of the code not disclosed in the public API's and thus open to legal action some time down the track." I wouldn't be in the least worried. I don't think you are going to find any brilliant algorithms in the Windows code. More likely, I would say most of the code has "evolved", rather than been designed, so even if you did understand it, you would probably say "Yuck! There is a much better way to implement that"

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                            Eddie Velasquez
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                            ed welch wrote: I wouldn't be in the least worried. I don't think you are going to find any brilliant algorithms in the Windows code. More likely, I would say most of the code has "evolved", rather than been designed, so even if you did understand it, you would probably say "Yuck! There is a much better way to implement that" Do you think Microsoft's lawyers care?


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                              Again, I wonder why more people don't use IRC. I guess it's either too complicated or too "out of scope" for most "higher-end" computer professionals out there and remains a communication medium still used only by true geeks. After all, it is all-text, no flashy pictures or menus of people online, and no friendly user interface since it's targeted more toward unix environments than people's precious GUIs. Anyway, in the IRC sub-world the source was available everywhere almost instantaneously and those who wanted it either had it right away or had it by the time they woke up. The rest of you will be following broken links around the web for weeks until you happen to stumble across one that hasn't been taken down yet. - Jason (SonorkID 100.611) The Code Project - Orange makes the art grow fonder

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                              Jason Hooper wrote: Again, I wonder why more people don't use IRC. I guess it's either too complicated or too "out of scope" for most "higher-end" computer professionals out there and remains a communication medium still used only by true geeks. As a computer professional and a true geek and an internet user since just about the time Al Gore invented it ;) I will explain why I don't use IRC: My impression is that it's full of geeks with nothing useful to say, kinda like SlashDot only with more pedophiles and lowlife scumbag hackers and crackers. I could be wrong, but everything I've ever heard from peripheral sources re-enforces that.


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                                Ok, let me understand it: why? What will you learn there that you won't learn on Linux kernel and WINE? :confused: Perl combines all the worst aspects of C and Lisp: a billion different sublanguages in one monolithic executable. It combines the power of C with the readability of PostScript. -- Jamie Zawinski

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                                Correcting at last this fucking bug in Explorer with the Folder pane not correctly updated.


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                                  Ok, let me understand it: why? What will you learn there that you won't learn on Linux kernel and WINE? :confused: Perl combines all the worst aspects of C and Lisp: a billion different sublanguages in one monolithic executable. It combines the power of C with the readability of PostScript. -- Jamie Zawinski

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                                  Tomas Petricek
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                                  Daniel Turini wrote: What will you learn there that you won't learn on Linux kernel and WINE? How to hack minesweeper ? :laugh:

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                                    Michael Mogensen wrote: How to get a look at the 660mb code snippet MainSoft released of Win2k? Err, I would not use the word "released". - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!" ShotKeeper, my Photo Album / Organizer Application[^]

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                                    Anders Molin wrote: Err, I would not use the word "released". That's right. Should be: "Escaped, leaving a trail of destruction in its wake".
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                                      How to write an operating system? ;-)

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                                      John M Drescher
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                                      There is no doubt in my mind that linux is a better designed operating system but as long as 90%+ of the pcs out there have Windows on them I will continue to write my applications for windows.... John

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                                        Correcting at last this fucking bug in Explorer with the Folder pane not correctly updated.


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                                        John M Drescher
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                                        :laugh: I agree. And also the bug when a network drive is down and every time I try to open a file on a completly different drive I have to wait 10+ seconds while windows tries to access the disconnected drive. Why does it need to do this? So it can be sure that the volume label in explorer (for the disconnected drive) has not changed in the last ten minutes? Who cares about that? This bug existed for as long as I can remember and yet there are no attempts to fix it... John

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                                        • M Michael Pauli

                                          How to get a look at the 660mb code snippet MainSoft released of Win2k? Download from where? If you know anything I'm interested. It should equal 15% of OS. Thanks in advance. Regards, Michael Mogensen, mm it-consult dk. ><((((º> ·.¸¸.· ><((((º> ·.¸¸.· ><((((º>

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                                          Prakash Nadar
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                                          Try kazaa or emule-project they are peer to peer software, you may find this kinda stuff over there.


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