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    BrockVnm
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    Hey everyone, I am looking to use a web browser other than IE. I am currently using mozilla and I am trying out the firebird today. Does anyone have any ideas about some good browsers out there? Something that may be alittle better than mozilla or firebird. Those are nice, but they seem to load pages kind of slow.....Thanks everyone! :-D

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      Hey everyone, I am looking to use a web browser other than IE. I am currently using mozilla and I am trying out the firebird today. Does anyone have any ideas about some good browsers out there? Something that may be alittle better than mozilla or firebird. Those are nice, but they seem to load pages kind of slow.....Thanks everyone! :-D

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      Ian Darling
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      BrockVnm wrote: Does anyone have any ideas about some good browsers out there? Opera is always worth a look. I sometimes have a build of Win32 lynx lying around too - it's occasionally handy for web development as a poor-mans accessibility test tool :-)


      Ian Darling "One of the few systems...which has had “no deaths” in the reliability requirements." - Michael Platt

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        Hey everyone, I am looking to use a web browser other than IE. I am currently using mozilla and I am trying out the firebird today. Does anyone have any ideas about some good browsers out there? Something that may be alittle better than mozilla or firebird. Those are nice, but they seem to load pages kind of slow.....Thanks everyone! :-D

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        John Fisher
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        I enjoy MyIE2, which embeds IE in an interface that includes tabbed browsing, mouse gesture recognition, groups of favorites, and a bunch of other things. If it sounds interesting, look here: http://www.myie2.com/[^] John
        "You said a whole sentence with no words in it, and I understood you!" -- my wife as she cries about slowly becoming a geek.

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        • B BrockVnm

          Hey everyone, I am looking to use a web browser other than IE. I am currently using mozilla and I am trying out the firebird today. Does anyone have any ideas about some good browsers out there? Something that may be alittle better than mozilla or firebird. Those are nice, but they seem to load pages kind of slow.....Thanks everyone! :-D

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          Maximilien
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          why the need for change ? what features are you looking for ? I always try new versions of mozilla and firebird and opera, but after a few hours, I always returned to IE, it works ok for me, and with the addition of the google and codeproject toolbars, my life is complete, browser wise.


          Maximilien Lincourt Your Head A Splode - Strong Bad

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            Hey everyone, I am looking to use a web browser other than IE. I am currently using mozilla and I am trying out the firebird today. Does anyone have any ideas about some good browsers out there? Something that may be alittle better than mozilla or firebird. Those are nice, but they seem to load pages kind of slow.....Thanks everyone! :-D

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            Sijin
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            Check out http://www.avantbrowser.com[^] i've been using it for over 6 months now and it just works great.


            I always think that the idea of a compiler that compiles another compiler or itself is rather incestuous in a binary way. - Colin Davies My .Net Blog

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              why the need for change ? what features are you looking for ? I always try new versions of mozilla and firebird and opera, but after a few hours, I always returned to IE, it works ok for me, and with the addition of the google and codeproject toolbars, my life is complete, browser wise.


              Maximilien Lincourt Your Head A Splode - Strong Bad

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              BrockVnm
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              I have been having problems with IE constantly crashing. It crashes with specific websites. Very odd, so I figured to just give up on it and find something new! It seemed to crash after I installed Visual Studio 6

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              • B BrockVnm

                Hey everyone, I am looking to use a web browser other than IE. I am currently using mozilla and I am trying out the firebird today. Does anyone have any ideas about some good browsers out there? Something that may be alittle better than mozilla or firebird. Those are nice, but they seem to load pages kind of slow.....Thanks everyone! :-D

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                Andy Brummer
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                I'm hooked on the gestures in Mozilla. (I'm even toying with the idea of adding them to VS.net) I've also loaded the load in IE extension so it's really easy to load IE for the pages that require it. I tried Opera (I really liked the native gesture support) for a while, but the version I tried handled bad HTML worse then Mozilla. -Andy Brummer

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                • B BrockVnm

                  Hey everyone, I am looking to use a web browser other than IE. I am currently using mozilla and I am trying out the firebird today. Does anyone have any ideas about some good browsers out there? Something that may be alittle better than mozilla or firebird. Those are nice, but they seem to load pages kind of slow.....Thanks everyone! :-D

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                  Mozilla and Firebird come with an initial refresh of 250 ms, I believe; which causes the slow load perception. I think it has to do with performance for users on a slow internet. You can change that, although I don't remember what entries need to be changed. Thomas My article on a reference-counted smart pointer that supports polymorphic objects and raw pointers

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                    Mozilla and Firebird come with an initial refresh of 250 ms, I believe; which causes the slow load perception. I think it has to do with performance for users on a slow internet. You can change that, although I don't remember what entries need to be changed. Thomas My article on a reference-counted smart pointer that supports polymorphic objects and raw pointers

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                    BrockVnm
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                    I know that if you type about:config in the browser the configuration comes up. I just dont know what to change to have it speed up alittle faster.:-D

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                      Mozilla and Firebird come with an initial refresh of 250 ms, I believe; which causes the slow load perception. I think it has to do with performance for users on a slow internet. You can change that, although I don't remember what entries need to be changed. Thomas My article on a reference-counted smart pointer that supports polymorphic objects and raw pointers

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                      1. Open Mozilla (Firebird (FireFox)) 2) Type "about:config" (less the quotes) in the address bar, and hit enter 3) Scroll down until you see "nglayout.initialpaint.delay" - double-click on this and change it to 0 4) Restart Mozilla (Firebird (FireFox)) Provided you have a fast connection (and are loading websites that aren't bandwidth-challenged), you should notice a slight but noticeable change in the speed at which pages appear.
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                        I know that if you type about:config in the browser the configuration comes up. I just dont know what to change to have it speed up alittle faster.:-D

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                        Change nglayout.initialpaint.delay to 0 You may also consider changing network.http.max-persistent-connections-per-server network.http.max-connections-per-server network.http.max-persistent-connections-per-proxy network.http.max-connections Perl combines all the worst aspects of C and Lisp: a billion different sublanguages in one monolithic executable. It combines the power of C with the readability of PostScript. -- Jamie Zawinski

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                          1. Open Mozilla (Firebird (FireFox)) 2) Type "about:config" (less the quotes) in the address bar, and hit enter 3) Scroll down until you see "nglayout.initialpaint.delay" - double-click on this and change it to 0 4) Restart Mozilla (Firebird (FireFox)) Provided you have a fast connection (and are loading websites that aren't bandwidth-challenged), you should notice a slight but noticeable change in the speed at which pages appear.
                            --- the work, which will become a new genre unto itself, will be called...
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                          BrockVnm
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                          Thats awesome! Is there any down side to having it at this speed?

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                            Change nglayout.initialpaint.delay to 0 You may also consider changing network.http.max-persistent-connections-per-server network.http.max-connections-per-server network.http.max-persistent-connections-per-proxy network.http.max-connections Perl combines all the worst aspects of C and Lisp: a billion different sublanguages in one monolithic executable. It combines the power of C with the readability of PostScript. -- Jamie Zawinski

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                            BrockVnm
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                            if I change these to 0 what will that do?? What do these variables do?

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                              Thats awesome! Is there any down side to having it at this speed?

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                              Well, if you're on a slow connection (either because of your line or the server being swamped), the page will redraw more than what is really useful while loading. Consider the CodeProject forums: IE will generally sit for a good long while showing nothing but a blank white screen, then finally display the complete page. Mozilla will render the page as it loads, reflowing as necessary. On days when CP is fast, that slight delay means you never have to watch the forum "build" in front of you - it just appears complete. On most days, it's kinda nice to read the posts that have loaded while waiting for the rest. ;)
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                                Hey everyone, I am looking to use a web browser other than IE. I am currently using mozilla and I am trying out the firebird today. Does anyone have any ideas about some good browsers out there? Something that may be alittle better than mozilla or firebird. Those are nice, but they seem to load pages kind of slow.....Thanks everyone! :-D

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                                nssone
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                                Well, if you're still looking for an alternative IE, I suggest SlimBrowser. SOrry I don't have a link right now.


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                                  I have been having problems with IE constantly crashing. It crashes with specific websites. Very odd, so I figured to just give up on it and find something new! It seemed to crash after I installed Visual Studio 6

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                                  I had the same problems until I downloaded and installed the Sun Java VM. Steve

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                                    why the need for change ? what features are you looking for ? I always try new versions of mozilla and firebird and opera, but after a few hours, I always returned to IE, it works ok for me, and with the addition of the google and codeproject toolbars, my life is complete, browser wise.


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                                    Member 96
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                                    Maximilien wrote: codeproject toolbars What's that?


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                                      I had the same problems until I downloaded and installed the Sun Java VM. Steve

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                                      Avery Moore
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                                      Steve Mayfield wrote: I had the same problems until I downloaded and installed the Sun Java VM. The Sun Java VM helped me somewhat too. I still get browser hangs sometimes when the jvm icon pops up in the tool tray though.

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                                        Maximilien wrote: codeproject toolbars What's that?


                                        SHIN, n. a body part used to find furniture in the dark

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                                        Shog9 0
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                                        John Cardinal wrote: What's that? this[^]
                                        --- the work, which will become a new genre unto itself, will be called...

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                                          John Cardinal wrote: What's that? this[^]
                                          --- the work, which will become a new genre unto itself, will be called...

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                                          Member 96
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                                          Cool! (I'm always the last to know)


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