MS Security Updates on CD
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I think it is worth it for their reputation. I also think MS should provide free anti-virus software with live updates as a free service as well. The costs of a 3 year subscription to Norton or McAfee just about cost more then the OS. -Andy Brummer
andy brummer wrote: I also think MS should provide free anti-virus software with live updates as a free service as well. Oh that's smart. Let's kill all the anti virus companies. :mad: -- Meine Welt ist monoton und minimal, doch ganz total!
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andy brummer wrote: I also think MS should provide free anti-virus software with live updates as a free service as well. Oh that's smart. Let's kill all the anti virus companies. :mad: -- Meine Welt ist monoton und minimal, doch ganz total!
I'm really kind of suprised that Microsoft hasn't. I guess the problem is that they would have a hard time changing for utilities to protect their own products. If I ever release a product with an exploit in it, I would wouldn't expect any third party to write software to clean up users systems for my mistake. -Andy Brummer
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andy brummer wrote: I also think MS should provide free anti-virus software with live updates as a free service as well. Oh that's smart. Let's kill all the anti virus companies. :mad: -- Meine Welt ist monoton und minimal, doch ganz total!
Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: Oh that's smart. Let's kill all the anti virus companies. Have you been reading Bill Gates' to-do list? Control Web Browser Control Media Players Control Games Consoles Control Anti-Virus Control Firewalls ;-) Michael But you know when the truth is told, That you can get what you want or you can just get old, Your're going to kick off before you even get halfway through. When will you realise... Vienna waits for you? - "The Stranger," Billy Joel
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free of charge[^] Rob Manderson **Paul Watson wrote:**What sense would you most dislike loosing? Ian Darling replied. Telepathy Then I'd no longer be able to find out everyones dirty little secrets The Lounge, December 4 2003
Rob Manderson wrote: MS Security Updates on CD Thanks for posting that. I guess me sending my error notification when trying to process windowsupdate.com 1 million times and they haven't been able to come up with a fix must have influenced this decision I bet.:rolleyes: yes you flamers, I tried all their workarounds and knowledgebase stuff Later, JoeSox "One must be a wise reader to quote wisely and well." - Amos Bronson Alcott joeswammi.com ↔ humanaiproject.org ↔ joeswammi.com/sinfest
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Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: Oh that's smart. Let's kill all the anti virus companies. Have you been reading Bill Gates' to-do list? Control Web Browser Control Media Players Control Games Consoles Control Anti-Virus Control Firewalls ;-) Michael But you know when the truth is told, That you can get what you want or you can just get old, Your're going to kick off before you even get halfway through. When will you realise... Vienna waits for you? - "The Stranger," Billy Joel
:laugh::laugh::laugh: You forgot one item on your list: Control The Minds Of Every Single Human Being :rolleyes: -- Meine Welt ist monoton und minimal, doch ganz total!
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andy brummer wrote: I also think MS should provide free anti-virus software with live updates as a free service as well. Oh that's smart. Let's kill all the anti virus companies. :mad: -- Meine Welt ist monoton und minimal, doch ganz total!
Hey, I only expect Microsoft to provide it for windows. The other guys can still charge all they want for their Linux and Mac versions. :(( -Andy Brummer
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Hey, I only expect Microsoft to provide it for windows. The other guys can still charge all they want for their Linux and Mac versions. :(( -Andy Brummer
Uhm.. and how big is the market for antivirus programs on the Mac and Linux? :) -- Meine Welt ist monoton und minimal, doch ganz total!
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free of charge[^] Rob Manderson **Paul Watson wrote:**What sense would you most dislike loosing? Ian Darling replied. Telepathy Then I'd no longer be able to find out everyones dirty little secrets The Lounge, December 4 2003
"This CD includes Microsoft critical updates released through October 2003" oh well, better than nothin.:) Later, JoeSox "One must be a wise reader to quote wisely and well." - Amos Bronson Alcott joeswammi.com ↔ humanaiproject.org ↔ joeswammi.com/sinfest
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Hey, I only expect Microsoft to provide it for windows. The other guys can still charge all they want for their Linux and Mac versions. :(( -Andy Brummer
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andy brummer wrote: I also think MS should provide free anti-virus software with live updates as a free service as well. Oh that's smart. Let's kill all the anti virus companies. :mad: -- Meine Welt ist monoton und minimal, doch ganz total!
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May I ask why? (Since your sincerity is almost maxed out, I figure you're not sarcastic) -- Meine Welt ist monoton und minimal, doch ganz total!
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May I ask why? (Since your sincerity is almost maxed out, I figure you're not sarcastic) -- Meine Welt ist monoton und minimal, doch ganz total!
Because of the spam-marketting practises most now take part in, because I've have to fix too many PCs completely screwed up by them, and because far too many problems are caused by having them running (so much software nowadays starts by telling you to disable anti-virus software). It only makes the average user believe they are safe and act less carefully - a properly cared for system should not need anti-virus protection.
David Wulff The Royal Woofle Museum
Putting the laughter back into slaughter
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"This CD includes Microsoft critical updates released through October 2003" oh well, better than nothin.:) Later, JoeSox "One must be a wise reader to quote wisely and well." - Amos Bronson Alcott joeswammi.com ↔ humanaiproject.org ↔ joeswammi.com/sinfest
JoeSox wrote: better than nothin It should knock off about 26 hours of download time for most users I know.:-D Heard in Bullhead City - "You haven't lost your girl -
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That is especially troubling since it appears that nothing has come of it so far as far as Microsoft products are concerned. I personally keep my systems clean using a free anti-virus product. I do think it is obscene that regular users like my parents need to spend more on software to protect their systems then the software that they use on their systems. All they need is email and web browsing that is cheap easy to use. I just think that security including utilities to detect and cleanup viruses should be part of any OS. -Andy Brummer
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JoeSox wrote: better than nothin It should knock off about 26 hours of download time for most users I know.:-D Heard in Bullhead City - "You haven't lost your girl -
you've just lost your turn..." [sigh] So true...Roger Wright wrote: about 26 hours of download time Uh huh. I have 3 MBps cable but I'd still prefer to patch from CD :) Rob Manderson **Paul Watson wrote:**What sense would you most dislike loosing? Ian Darling replied. Telepathy Then I'd no longer be able to find out everyones dirty little secrets The Lounge, December 4 2003
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JoeSox wrote: better than nothin It should knock off about 26 hours of download time for most users I know.:-D Heard in Bullhead City - "You haven't lost your girl -
you've just lost your turn..." [sigh] So true...Hey Roger, Are you no longer sonorking ? Regardz Colin J Davies
*** WARNING *
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**The minion's version of "Catch :bob: "It's a real shame that people as stupid as you can work out how to use a computer. said by Christian Graus in the Soapbox
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Hey Roger, Are you no longer sonorking ? Regardz Colin J Davies
*** WARNING *
This could be addictive
**The minion's version of "Catch :bob: "It's a real shame that people as stupid as you can work out how to use a computer. said by Christian Graus in the Soapbox
Only when I go hunting for you. I still haven't figured out how to fix my PC after the last crash, so it's running in crippled mode right now. Heard in Bullhead City - "You haven't lost your girl -
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Roger Wright wrote: about 26 hours of download time Uh huh. I have 3 MBps cable but I'd still prefer to patch from CD :) Rob Manderson **Paul Watson wrote:**What sense would you most dislike loosing? Ian Darling replied. Telepathy Then I'd no longer be able to find out everyones dirty little secrets The Lounge, December 4 2003
Yup yup. I'm thinking how handy that's going to be when I visit customers who don't have a clue what an update is. I can bring them more or less up to date in minutes, instead of hours, and with any luck I'll be able to selectively install fixes to minimize the number of crashes they create. Heard in Bullhead City - "You haven't lost your girl -
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I think it is worth it for their reputation. I also think MS should provide free anti-virus software with live updates as a free service as well. The costs of a 3 year subscription to Norton or McAfee just about cost more then the OS. -Andy Brummer
They did a deal with Computer Associates so you can get a personal firewall (think Zone Alarm) and anti-virus free for a year. Go here. Pick your OS, pick "use detailed steps", get to step 3 and notice you can get anti-virus from Computer Associates 12 months for free. If you're in a non-commercial environment and want anti-virus longer than 12 months, I recommend this one.
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I think it is worth it for their reputation. I also think MS should provide free anti-virus software with live updates as a free service as well. The costs of a 3 year subscription to Norton or McAfee just about cost more then the OS. -Andy Brummer
oh, another case for misuse of market dominance.
"When death smiles at you, only thing you can do is smile back at it" - Russel Crowe (Gladiator)