Women priests?
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Although the Bible specifically states that women cannot be 'priests', many 'christian' organisations 'ordain' women. You'll note my use of quotes. I know of no 'church' that has priests, and also in any way represents the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Yes, a lot of people ordain women as priests, but they mostly are so far removed from the Bible that it wouldn't matter if they ordained sheep. On the other hand, there are groups who would use the Bible to oppress women, and they are also wrong. Women are not inferior to men in the church, they simply have a differing role. Christian I have drunk the cool-aid and found it wan and bitter. - Chris Maunder
Christian Graus wrote: I know of no 'church' that has priests, and also in any way represents the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Can you make that clearer? Christian Graus wrote: there are groups who would use the Bible to oppress women On what grounds? Smitha Every person, all the events of your life, are there because you have drawn them there. What you choose to do with them is up to you. -- Richard Bach
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Christian Graus wrote: I know of no 'church' that has priests, and also in any way represents the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Can you make that clearer? Christian Graus wrote: there are groups who would use the Bible to oppress women On what grounds? Smitha Every person, all the events of your life, are there because you have drawn them there. What you choose to do with them is up to you. -- Richard Bach
Smitha Vijayan wrote: Can you make that clearer? Sure - the message that Jesus preached is a world away from the 'message' presented by churches like the Anglican, Catholic, etc., which are the groups that appoint 'priests'. Many groups that appoint 'pastors' are equally flailing in the dark, I'm not drawing a line based on priests/pastors/elders/whatever. Smitha Vijayan wrote: On what grounds? Misogyny I guess.... Christian I have drunk the cool-aid and found it wan and bitter. - Chris Maunder
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Hi all, The front page of BBC shows a pic of a woman priest. We don't have women priests in the churches in our city [I am not a Christian but I have gone to churches]. Are women priests common in other places? Cheers Smitha Every person, all the events of your life, are there because you have drawn them there. What you choose to do with them is up to you. -- Richard Bach
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Aren't they called nuns? :confused:
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Well, I am not very sure myself about this. But nuns are differnt I guess. They don't give sermons or draw the holy cross on the forehead of people on ash wednesday [which is today]... Smitha Every problem has a gift for you in its hands. -- Richard Bach
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Hi all, The front page of BBC shows a pic of a woman priest. We don't have women priests in the churches in our city [I am not a Christian but I have gone to churches]. Are women priests common in other places? Cheers Smitha Every person, all the events of your life, are there because you have drawn them there. What you choose to do with them is up to you. -- Richard Bach
Smitha Vijayan wrote: We don't have women priests in the churches in our city What about all those Sisters and Mother Superiors who run convents and schools? They are priests too in a way I guess - perhaps lower order priests. Nish
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Aren't they called nuns? :confused:
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Nick Seng wrote: Aren't they called nuns? Um... no. Christian I have drunk the cool-aid and found it wan and bitter. - Chris Maunder
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Well, I am not very sure myself about this. But nuns are differnt I guess. They don't give sermons or draw the holy cross on the forehead of people on ash wednesday [which is today]... Smitha Every problem has a gift for you in its hands. -- Richard Bach
Ahhhh...I tried googling for the difference between priest and nuns, and all I got were joke sites. :rolleyes:
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Nick Seng wrote: Aren't they called nuns? Um... no. Christian I have drunk the cool-aid and found it wan and bitter. - Chris Maunder
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So....what's the difference?
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Simple - a nun does not preach, or hold communion, or in any other way involve herself visibly in the administration of a church. Christian I have drunk the cool-aid and found it wan and bitter. - Chris Maunder
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Simple - a nun does not preach, or hold communion, or in any other way involve herself visibly in the administration of a church. Christian I have drunk the cool-aid and found it wan and bitter. - Chris Maunder
Still unsuccessfully googling. Found this[^] though. So...as far as I know it, nuns don't really have any redefined duties, only vows?
"if you vote me down, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine" - Michael P. Butler. Support Bone It's a weird Life
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Smitha Vijayan wrote: We don't have women priests in the churches in our city What about all those Sisters and Mother Superiors who run convents and schools? They are priests too in a way I guess - perhaps lower order priests. Nish
Extending MFC Applications with the .NET Framework [NW] Summer Love and Some more Cricket [NW] (My first novel) Shog's review of SLASMC [NW] Nish is now the first and only CPian (as of now) to reach 16,000 forum posts on CodeProject.
See CG's reply. There is a difference :) Smitha Every problem has a gift for you in its hands. -- Richard Bach
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Still unsuccessfully googling. Found this[^] though. So...as far as I know it, nuns don't really have any redefined duties, only vows?
"if you vote me down, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine" - Michael P. Butler. Support Bone It's a weird Life
I'm not really sure what they *do*, just that they don't take the same role as a priest. Christian I have drunk the cool-aid and found it wan and bitter. - Chris Maunder
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I'm not really sure what they *do*, just that they don't take the same role as a priest. Christian I have drunk the cool-aid and found it wan and bitter. - Chris Maunder
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Smitha Vijayan wrote: Can you make that clearer? Sure - the message that Jesus preached is a world away from the 'message' presented by churches like the Anglican, Catholic, etc., which are the groups that appoint 'priests'. Many groups that appoint 'pastors' are equally flailing in the dark, I'm not drawing a line based on priests/pastors/elders/whatever. Smitha Vijayan wrote: On what grounds? Misogyny I guess.... Christian I have drunk the cool-aid and found it wan and bitter. - Chris Maunder
It could be said that all who submit to Christ are priests: 1 Peter 2:4-6[^] Rev 1:5-7[^] But Jesus is the High Priest. It's like the term "saints", all christians are saints, yet the Catholic Church has made it into a special designation. I have a problem with ministers being called Reverend or Father. Those terms are reserved for God only.
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Ahhhh...I tried googling for the difference between priest and nuns, and all I got were joke sites. :rolleyes:
"if you vote me down, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine" - Michael P. Butler. Support Bone It's a weird Life
I know... have read a lot of those jokes from forwarded mails :) Smitha Every problem has a gift for you in its hands. -- Richard Bach
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Still unsuccessfully googling. Found this[^] though. So...as far as I know it, nuns don't really have any redefined duties, only vows?
"if you vote me down, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine" - Michael P. Butler. Support Bone It's a weird Life
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Hi all, The front page of BBC shows a pic of a woman priest. We don't have women priests in the churches in our city [I am not a Christian but I have gone to churches]. Are women priests common in other places? Cheers Smitha Every person, all the events of your life, are there because you have drawn them there. What you choose to do with them is up to you. -- Richard Bach
I went 8 years to a Roman Catholic School and the Sisterhood at the time was the Sisters of Mercy[^] "In what kinds of ministries or jobs might you find Sisters of Mercy? Sisters of Mercy serve in a broad range of ministries: Sisters are doctors, nurses, healthcare technicians, chaplains, clinical and pastoral ministers, lawyers, paralegals, lobbyists, legal advocates, teachers, professors, librarians, counselors, case managers, social workers, and secretaries. Sisters serve as CEO's, CFO's, COO's; directors, coordinators, supervisors, administrators. Many sisters completed their education before entering the community and continue to pursue careers in the disciplines in which they were educated. Other sisters have changed ministries several times in the course of their religious lives." FAQ[^] In the Roman Catholic faith, tradition, including traditional roles are hard to break unless it is necessary to benefit the community as a whole, imo. I have never seen a female Catholic Priest before here in the states, not that I wouldn't be opposed to the idea nor really a proponent. Just call me traditional.:) Later, JoeSox "Making the world safe for hypocrisy." - Thomas Wolfe joeswammi.com ↔ humanaiproject.org ↔ joeswammi.com/sinfest
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It could be said that all who submit to Christ are priests: 1 Peter 2:4-6[^] Rev 1:5-7[^] But Jesus is the High Priest. It's like the term "saints", all christians are saints, yet the Catholic Church has made it into a special designation. I have a problem with ministers being called Reverend or Father. Those terms are reserved for God only.
"We have done so much in the last 2 years, and it doesn't happen by standing around with your finger in your ear, hoping everyone thinks that that's nice." - Donald Rumsfeld
Jason Henderson
blogSisters are called Mothers and sometimes Mother Superiors right? And I remember sisters referring to the Mother Superior in our school convent as "Mother Superior Reverend Sister Renitta..." Smitha Every problem has a gift for you in its hands. -- Richard Bach
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I went 8 years to a Roman Catholic School and the Sisterhood at the time was the Sisters of Mercy[^] "In what kinds of ministries or jobs might you find Sisters of Mercy? Sisters of Mercy serve in a broad range of ministries: Sisters are doctors, nurses, healthcare technicians, chaplains, clinical and pastoral ministers, lawyers, paralegals, lobbyists, legal advocates, teachers, professors, librarians, counselors, case managers, social workers, and secretaries. Sisters serve as CEO's, CFO's, COO's; directors, coordinators, supervisors, administrators. Many sisters completed their education before entering the community and continue to pursue careers in the disciplines in which they were educated. Other sisters have changed ministries several times in the course of their religious lives." FAQ[^] In the Roman Catholic faith, tradition, including traditional roles are hard to break unless it is necessary to benefit the community as a whole, imo. I have never seen a female Catholic Priest before here in the states, not that I wouldn't be opposed to the idea nor really a proponent. Just call me traditional.:) Later, JoeSox "Making the world safe for hypocrisy." - Thomas Wolfe joeswammi.com ↔ humanaiproject.org ↔ joeswammi.com/sinfest
JoeSox wrote: Sisters serve as CEO's, CFO's, COO's; Of what kind of organizations? Interesting ... Smitha Every problem has a gift for you in its hands. -- Richard Bach
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Sisters are called Mothers and sometimes Mother Superiors right? And I remember sisters referring to the Mother Superior in our school convent as "Mother Superior Reverend Sister Renitta..." Smitha Every problem has a gift for you in its hands. -- Richard Bach
I don't hold the Catholic belief that Mary is the "Mother of God". Yeah she gave birth to Jesus because she was a special woman, but I think Catholics put too much emphasis on her. I assume that's where they get the "Mother" term for nuns. In apostolic teaching (from the Bible and Jesus' apostles) there really is no precedent for any form of church hierarchy such as a priesthood or papalcy. Apostles were the closest things to a priesthood, but they considered themselves elders and witnesses to Jesus' life on Earth. Elders (overseers) and Deacons were appointed in each church to help govern the body, but they were not considered more holy than their fellows, just more learned and experienced.
"We have done so much in the last 2 years, and it doesn't happen by standing around with your finger in your ear, hoping everyone thinks that that's nice." - Donald Rumsfeld
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