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Expect a lot of other Microsoft websites and apps to be sporting the .NET logo from here on. MSN Messenger 4.5 is now a .NET product and has the .NET logo displayed loudly on it. It also integrates with the .NET My Services Alerts web service. Unfortunatley both, MSN and Alerts, crash quite regularly and I am not too pleased. I would reckon HotMail is slowly being converted to .NET. I doubt it is all .NET right now. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge "In other words, the developer is dealing with an elephant, the accountant is dealing with a bunny rabbit." by Stan Shannon - 16/10/2001
Is there any way too include Sending messages thourgh hotmail in a CSharp app? -Steven Visit Ltpb.8m.com Surf the web faster than ever: http://www.404Browser.com
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Expect a lot of other Microsoft websites and apps to be sporting the .NET logo from here on. MSN Messenger 4.5 is now a .NET product and has the .NET logo displayed loudly on it. It also integrates with the .NET My Services Alerts web service. Unfortunatley both, MSN and Alerts, crash quite regularly and I am not too pleased. I would reckon HotMail is slowly being converted to .NET. I doubt it is all .NET right now. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge "In other words, the developer is dealing with an elephant, the accountant is dealing with a bunny rabbit." by Stan Shannon - 16/10/2001
When they purchased hotmail it was running on linux. Their first attempt at porting in to NT failed. The architech told Bill no f'n way will it work. I wish I knew more deails.
Todd Smith
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When they purchased hotmail it was running on linux. Their first attempt at porting in to NT failed. The architech told Bill no f'n way will it work. I wish I knew more deails.
Todd Smith
Are you telling me that right now HotMail is actually a purely Linux hosted app? WOAH! I find that very hard to believe. HotMail is one of MS's darling children, a forerunner of "new shiny things". I assume they tried again and again until they got it onto Windows NT, right? regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge "In other words, the developer is dealing with an elephant, the accountant is dealing with a bunny rabbit." by Stan Shannon - 16/10/2001
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Is there any way too include Sending messages thourgh hotmail in a CSharp app? -Steven Visit Ltpb.8m.com Surf the web faster than ever: http://www.404Browser.com
Why would you want to? If just for the sake of it then I doubt MS are going to give people access to the HotMail API. If you want to send email then just interface with a POP3 or SMTP server. IIS has the capabilities. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge "In other words, the developer is dealing with an elephant, the accountant is dealing with a bunny rabbit." by Stan Shannon - 16/10/2001
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Are you telling me that right now HotMail is actually a purely Linux hosted app? WOAH! I find that very hard to believe. HotMail is one of MS's darling children, a forerunner of "new shiny things". I assume they tried again and again until they got it onto Windows NT, right? regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge "In other words, the developer is dealing with an elephant, the accountant is dealing with a bunny rabbit." by Stan Shannon - 16/10/2001
This is correct. From what I understand, HotMail was running on a combination of BSD and Linux when Microsoft bought it. The first several attempts to convert it over failed miserably. They did finally get it over onto MS products though. I wonder if MS is still using ColdFusion all over the place? They used to have quite a bit of ColdFusion in use, I never did hear if they phased it out of not. I would imagine they did. Jason Jystad Cito Technologies www.citotech.net >------------------------------------------------< "Luckily," he went on, "you have come to exactly the right place with your interesting problem, for there is no such word as 'impossible' in my dictionary. In fact," he added, brandishing the abused book, "everything between 'herring' and 'marmalade' seems to be missing." -- Dirk Gently (Douglas Adams) >------------------------------------------------<
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I've just noticed that hotmail has been infected with .NET Does this mean MS are implementing beta technology on a major production site or is it just advertising. :confused: sign-out.net X|
Hotmail is probably starting to implement pieces with .NET. MSN's homepage is now implemented with ASP.NET. That was done with the redesign that happened last week. If you look at Passport, its now live with their ATL Server implementation, as are pieces of MSN Communities. These sites are live on the beta bits (post beta2 usually). We're trying to go out of our way to make sure VS.NET is a rock solid product for you guys. Walter Sullivan Lead Program Manager, ATL/MFC
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This is correct. From what I understand, HotMail was running on a combination of BSD and Linux when Microsoft bought it. The first several attempts to convert it over failed miserably. They did finally get it over onto MS products though. I wonder if MS is still using ColdFusion all over the place? They used to have quite a bit of ColdFusion in use, I never did hear if they phased it out of not. I would imagine they did. Jason Jystad Cito Technologies www.citotech.net >------------------------------------------------< "Luckily," he went on, "you have come to exactly the right place with your interesting problem, for there is no such word as 'impossible' in my dictionary. In fact," he added, brandishing the abused book, "everything between 'herring' and 'marmalade' seems to be missing." -- Dirk Gently (Douglas Adams) >------------------------------------------------<
It was all FreeBSD, no Linux. It was migrated over in pieces, some migrations didn't work too well on NT4 but after Win2k shipped they were able to port everything. Its currently all an ISAPI based application written before ATL Server existed. I'm sure they are considering, if not implementing, a migration of parts of their app to .NET technologies. The ColdFusion stuff was on a conference registration site as I recall, it was done by an outsourcing company. Its like the ASP stuff on Sun's website. You contract it out and they use the technology their familiar with. I'm not aware of any ColdFusion stuff on ms.com or msn.com, but you never know. I wouldn't be surprised to see it in third-party supplied content. Later, Walter Sullivan Lead Program Manager, ATL/MFC
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It was all FreeBSD, no Linux. It was migrated over in pieces, some migrations didn't work too well on NT4 but after Win2k shipped they were able to port everything. Its currently all an ISAPI based application written before ATL Server existed. I'm sure they are considering, if not implementing, a migration of parts of their app to .NET technologies. The ColdFusion stuff was on a conference registration site as I recall, it was done by an outsourcing company. Its like the ASP stuff on Sun's website. You contract it out and they use the technology their familiar with. I'm not aware of any ColdFusion stuff on ms.com or msn.com, but you never know. I wouldn't be surprised to see it in third-party supplied content. Later, Walter Sullivan Lead Program Manager, ATL/MFC
That makes sense. Thanks for the claification. The ColdFusion stuff was a rumour I heard, though from some reliable sources. I never saw any of it, and I did some third party outsourced web development for MicroSoft myself a while back. That was back before I got sick of the Seattle weather and moved to Arizona. :) I know there aren't very many of us that do multiple different languages, quite a few of the shops I have worked with only use ASP or only use ColdFusion or whatever. I figured that was how it got into the MS system. Some people are so afraid of using a language that is new to them. I use whatever tool seems right for the job. I have never had a problem picking up a new language fast enough to complete a project on time. Though it can be frustrating, when you get caught in the "but this is so easy in [insert other language]" cycle while developing. :) Maybe it is just me. Jason Jystad Cito Technologies www.citotech.net >------------------------------------------------< "Luckily," he went on, "you have come to exactly the right place with your interesting problem, for there is no such word as 'impossible' in my dictionary. In fact," he added, brandishing the abused book, "everything between 'herring' and 'marmalade' seems to be missing." -- Dirk Gently (Douglas Adams) >------------------------------------------------<
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That makes sense. Thanks for the claification. The ColdFusion stuff was a rumour I heard, though from some reliable sources. I never saw any of it, and I did some third party outsourced web development for MicroSoft myself a while back. That was back before I got sick of the Seattle weather and moved to Arizona. :) I know there aren't very many of us that do multiple different languages, quite a few of the shops I have worked with only use ASP or only use ColdFusion or whatever. I figured that was how it got into the MS system. Some people are so afraid of using a language that is new to them. I use whatever tool seems right for the job. I have never had a problem picking up a new language fast enough to complete a project on time. Though it can be frustrating, when you get caught in the "but this is so easy in [insert other language]" cycle while developing. :) Maybe it is just me. Jason Jystad Cito Technologies www.citotech.net >------------------------------------------------< "Luckily," he went on, "you have come to exactly the right place with your interesting problem, for there is no such word as 'impossible' in my dictionary. In fact," he added, brandishing the abused book, "everything between 'herring' and 'marmalade' seems to be missing." -- Dirk Gently (Douglas Adams) >------------------------------------------------<
It was no rumor...;^) I don't recall it if was ColdFusion for sure, but there was some surprise about a PDC Registration site not using ASP (I think it was PDC '00, not PDC '01). Use the right tool for the job is exactly the approach I suggest. The more tools you have in your tool chest, the better off you'll be. I've worked on Microsoft's C++ for 11 years, but certainly wouldn't tell someone that everything they do should be in C or C++. That's exactly why Microsoft produces VB, VC and now C#, and that the CLR is designed for a wide variety of languages. Its why we have ASP.NET, ATL Server, ISAPI, FrontPage; Fox, Access, SQL Server; ADO, OLEDB; Etc, etc. I'll be the first to agree with anyone who suggests we do a crap job of guiding people to the technology that is best to solve their problem. Later, Walter
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When they purchased hotmail it was running on linux. Their first attempt at porting in to NT failed. The architech told Bill no f'n way will it work. I wish I knew more deails.
Todd Smith
Hotmail has never run on Linux. It was originally a combination Solaris/FreeBSD application (Solaris handing the mail deliver and storage with FreeBSD doing the front end web pages) but is now completely Windows 2000. An interesting bit of information is that they actually created a Unix compatibility layer for some of it, so they didn't have to do a complete port. -- Where are we going? And why am I in this handbasket?
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Why would you want to? If just for the sake of it then I doubt MS are going to give people access to the HotMail API. If you want to send email then just interface with a POP3 or SMTP server. IIS has the capabilities. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge "In other words, the developer is dealing with an elephant, the accountant is dealing with a bunny rabbit." by Stan Shannon - 16/10/2001
I don't i have a STMP or POP sever to use. I am developing a feedback feature for my program, that is why i need to access the ability of sending email. -Steven Visit Ltpb.8m.com Surf the web faster than ever: http://www.404Browser.com