z vs. zed
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I present the American pronounciation of the alphabet. Due to the lack of phoneme characters in the Latin-1 character set short vowels are in lower case and long vowels are capitalized. Sing it with me now... A = A B = bE C = sE D = dE E = E F = ef G = jE H = ach (chair) I = I J = jA K = kA L = el M = em N = en O = ou P = pE Q = kU R = ar S = es T = tE U = yoo (booth) V = vE W = doblU X = ekz Y = ooI (booth. That is a capitial 'i' not an 'L') Z = zE Every letter in the American alphabet contain no more than one consonant with the except of W (which I think should be removed anyway), H (remember the "ch" is a combined consonant), and X. X is the only flaw in my debate but considering it is pronounced the same in the both the English and American alphabet I will disregard it. In the English alphabet Z is pronounced "zed". It contains two consonants. The second consonant serves no distinguishing purpose. Therefore, it is redundant and should be removed. ;P During this study I found another redundancy, "oo" as in "booth". It seems that "oo" can be replaced with "u" eliminating another stupid grammar rule. Maybe I should create another language? English#
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I present the American pronounciation of the alphabet. Due to the lack of phoneme characters in the Latin-1 character set short vowels are in lower case and long vowels are capitalized. Sing it with me now... A = A B = bE C = sE D = dE E = E F = ef G = jE H = ach (chair) I = I J = jA K = kA L = el M = em N = en O = ou P = pE Q = kU R = ar S = es T = tE U = yoo (booth) V = vE W = doblU X = ekz Y = ooI (booth. That is a capitial 'i' not an 'L') Z = zE Every letter in the American alphabet contain no more than one consonant with the except of W (which I think should be removed anyway), H (remember the "ch" is a combined consonant), and X. X is the only flaw in my debate but considering it is pronounced the same in the both the English and American alphabet I will disregard it. In the English alphabet Z is pronounced "zed". It contains two consonants. The second consonant serves no distinguishing purpose. Therefore, it is redundant and should be removed. ;P During this study I found another redundancy, "oo" as in "booth". It seems that "oo" can be replaced with "u" eliminating another stupid grammar rule. Maybe I should create another language? English#
English# ??? :-) cool by the way henry, I can warn you that some of the Loungers may protest against that post of yours. New rule going around that says posts should have content :-) Nish
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I present the American pronounciation of the alphabet. Due to the lack of phoneme characters in the Latin-1 character set short vowels are in lower case and long vowels are capitalized. Sing it with me now... A = A B = bE C = sE D = dE E = E F = ef G = jE H = ach (chair) I = I J = jA K = kA L = el M = em N = en O = ou P = pE Q = kU R = ar S = es T = tE U = yoo (booth) V = vE W = doblU X = ekz Y = ooI (booth. That is a capitial 'i' not an 'L') Z = zE Every letter in the American alphabet contain no more than one consonant with the except of W (which I think should be removed anyway), H (remember the "ch" is a combined consonant), and X. X is the only flaw in my debate but considering it is pronounced the same in the both the English and American alphabet I will disregard it. In the English alphabet Z is pronounced "zed". It contains two consonants. The second consonant serves no distinguishing purpose. Therefore, it is redundant and should be removed. ;P During this study I found another redundancy, "oo" as in "booth". It seems that "oo" can be replaced with "u" eliminating another stupid grammar rule. Maybe I should create another language? English#
The Roman alphabet is completely underequipped to handle English vowels, since there are more than 5. I think there are 12 vowels in some dialects. French has the same problem, but at least French is regular with vowel spellings (e.g. "ou" is usually pronounced [u]) unlike English which has stuff like the 583 pronunciations of "ough". ;) --Mike-- http://home.inreach.com/mdunn/ #include "witty_sig.h" :love: your :bob: with :vegemite: and :beer:
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I present the American pronounciation of the alphabet. Due to the lack of phoneme characters in the Latin-1 character set short vowels are in lower case and long vowels are capitalized. Sing it with me now... A = A B = bE C = sE D = dE E = E F = ef G = jE H = ach (chair) I = I J = jA K = kA L = el M = em N = en O = ou P = pE Q = kU R = ar S = es T = tE U = yoo (booth) V = vE W = doblU X = ekz Y = ooI (booth. That is a capitial 'i' not an 'L') Z = zE Every letter in the American alphabet contain no more than one consonant with the except of W (which I think should be removed anyway), H (remember the "ch" is a combined consonant), and X. X is the only flaw in my debate but considering it is pronounced the same in the both the English and American alphabet I will disregard it. In the English alphabet Z is pronounced "zed". It contains two consonants. The second consonant serves no distinguishing purpose. Therefore, it is redundant and should be removed. ;P During this study I found another redundancy, "oo" as in "booth". It seems that "oo" can be replaced with "u" eliminating another stupid grammar rule. Maybe I should create another language? English#
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The Roman alphabet is completely underequipped to handle English vowels, since there are more than 5. I think there are 12 vowels in some dialects. French has the same problem, but at least French is regular with vowel spellings (e.g. "ou" is usually pronounced [u]) unlike English which has stuff like the 583 pronunciations of "ough". ;) --Mike-- http://home.inreach.com/mdunn/ #include "witty_sig.h" :love: your :bob: with :vegemite: and :beer:
Do americans/britishers/aussies/canadians and other native english speakers accept indian english as a specific dialect? Because indians have their own phonetics and even have some extra words [actually there are at least 5-6 sub-indian-dialects like the hindi-english dialect and the madra-dialect...] Nish
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Maybe you should just admit that you yanks don't know how to speak english ;P U = yoo (booth) Yes Y = ooI (booth) :confused: Y = whI Z = zE Only in America --- It may be that your sole purpose in life is simply to serve as a warning to others.
In India it is now considered fashionable to pronounce Z as zee instead of as zed. We even have a new motor-bike brand called CBZ pronounced as cee,bee,zee :-) Nish
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English# ??? :-) cool by the way henry, I can warn you that some of the Loungers may protest against that post of yours. New rule going around that says posts should have content :-) Nish
New rule going around that says posts should have content Nish, I think you got it wrong... I started that because I thought you made a LOT of messages saying either "now there's 800 online", or, "CodeProject was just gone for 2 minutes"... Henry's post is nothing like that, don't you get the difference? - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
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New rule going around that says posts should have content Nish, I think you got it wrong... I started that because I thought you made a LOT of messages saying either "now there's 800 online", or, "CodeProject was just gone for 2 minutes"... Henry's post is nothing like that, don't you get the difference? - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
Anders I know that. :-) I was only trying my hand at subtle humor. Too subtle to be funny :-( Anyway dont you think the word 'Lounger' is cool. It's like something out of a western movie. Nish
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In India it is now considered fashionable to pronounce Z as zee instead of as zed. We even have a new motor-bike brand called CBZ pronounced as cee,bee,zee :-) Nish
In India it is now considered fashionable to pronounce Z as zee instead of as zed. Not here in North India. At least not in Delhi. People who do such outrageous things are labelled as outright idiots ;P. Please try to avoid generalising, especially when it concerns a diverse country like India. I'm serious. A list is only as strong as its weakest link. - Don Knuth
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In India it is now considered fashionable to pronounce Z as zee instead of as zed. Not here in North India. At least not in Delhi. People who do such outrageous things are labelled as outright idiots ;P. Please try to avoid generalising, especially when it concerns a diverse country like India. I'm serious. A list is only as strong as its weakest link. - Don Knuth
Don't tell me that you pronounce that motor-bike as cee-bee-zed. I thought everyone pronounced it as cee-bee-zee. And I agree as to your thoughts on generalising about india. I mean there are americans, chinese, the french, russians, aussies but there arent any indians - there are only bombay-ites, south-indians, madrasees, north-indians, delhi-indians etc.... we have 100s of languages and 100s of cultures.... But, it all adds to the fun I guess....
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Don't tell me that you pronounce that motor-bike as cee-bee-zed. I thought everyone pronounced it as cee-bee-zee. And I agree as to your thoughts on generalising about india. I mean there are americans, chinese, the french, russians, aussies but there arent any indians - there are only bombay-ites, south-indians, madrasees, north-indians, delhi-indians etc.... we have 100s of languages and 100s of cultures.... But, it all adds to the fun I guess....
Don't tell me that you pronounce that motor-bike as cee-bee-zed. I thought everyone pronounced it as cee-bee-zee. Fine, I wont tell you. :-D I dont have much of an interest in bikes... I did not know such a thing existed till about 0x12C seconds ago...
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Don't tell me that you pronounce that motor-bike as cee-bee-zed. I thought everyone pronounced it as cee-bee-zee. Fine, I wont tell you. :-D I dont have much of an interest in bikes... I did not know such a thing existed till about 0x12C seconds ago...
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Nikhil I was just chking your bio Seems to me you might be the youngest CPian You are only 16 cool!!! Nish
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Don't tell me that you pronounce that motor-bike as cee-bee-zed. I thought everyone pronounced it as cee-bee-zee. And I agree as to your thoughts on generalising about india. I mean there are americans, chinese, the french, russians, aussies but there arent any indians - there are only bombay-ites, south-indians, madrasees, north-indians, delhi-indians etc.... we have 100s of languages and 100s of cultures.... But, it all adds to the fun I guess....
Yep, Cee, Bee, Zed, just like Zed One (for those old enough to remember). Anyway, the thing I want to know is, if Americans pronounced Z properly, :P) , what would ZZ Top have called themselves? Zed Zed Top doesn't quite roll off the tongue the same. while (!asleep) code();
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Yep, Cee, Bee, Zed, just like Zed One (for those old enough to remember). Anyway, the thing I want to know is, if Americans pronounced Z properly, :P) , what would ZZ Top have called themselves? Zed Zed Top doesn't quite roll off the tongue the same. while (!asleep) code();
Parish, thanks. Guess you are from north india :-) Here [am from Trivandrum], everyone says cee-bee-zee But in Kerala we have a funny pronounciation for the letter m People pronounce 'm' as 'yum' like you know how they spell out malayalam yum eh ell eh why eh ell eh yum :-) Nish
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Do americans/britishers/aussies/canadians and other native english speakers accept indian english as a specific dialect? Because indians have their own phonetics and even have some extra words [actually there are at least 5-6 sub-indian-dialects like the hindi-english dialect and the madra-dialect...] Nish
Its quite funny really, as I'm english, and there are all these other dialects according to MS anyway. With in the UK itself there are big regional differences. Really sometimes people from London will have difficulty understanding someone with a strong Glaswegian accent. So I'm sure there are many more again probably say in Hong Kong, and the far east. Giles
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In India it is now considered fashionable to pronounce Z as zee instead of as zed. We even have a new motor-bike brand called CBZ pronounced as cee,bee,zee :-) Nish
No don't do that. Really. Please please please. There is no need to copy just for the sake of fasion. I love hearing other europeans speak english with thier own accents. Women sound so sexy with their cute little accents. But no I would never consider an American accent in the same way. Probably though familiarity. Giles
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Maybe you should just admit that you yanks don't know how to speak english ;P U = yoo (booth) Yes Y = ooI (booth) :confused: Y = whI Z = zE Only in America --- It may be that your sole purpose in life is simply to serve as a warning to others.
I admit it. I speak American. ;) I spend a long time trying to figure out how 'Y' is pronounced and I still got it wrong.
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Anders I know that. :-) I was only trying my hand at subtle humor. Too subtle to be funny :-( Anyway dont you think the word 'Lounger' is cool. It's like something out of a western movie. Nish
Don't worry about it to much Nish, us aussies have to double think what we say internationally because just about everything we say casually is sarcasm, and most of the world isn't used to it. It's all a learning experience and people will either get used to you and accept, or learn to tolerate and ignore. I learnt a long time ago if i don't like somebody it's my problem, not theirs. I had a go a humor here once, and looking back at what I wrote, I failed miserably :((
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Nikhil I was just chking your bio Seems to me you might be the youngest CPian You are only 16 cool!!! Nish
Hey, what about me? I'm twelve... David Wulff, Founder of The BLA dwulff@battleaxesoftware.com New's flash - Bob caught in kitchen incident
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Its quite funny really, as I'm english, and there are all these other dialects according to MS anyway. With in the UK itself there are big regional differences. Really sometimes people from London will have difficulty understanding someone with a strong Glaswegian accent. So I'm sure there are many more again probably say in Hong Kong, and the far east. Giles
Really sometimes people from London will have difficulty understanding someone with a strong Glaswegian accent. ...only "sometimes" - are you kidding? Heck, I'm from the North East and the Southerners have enough troubles understanding us....and we can't hold a candle to the Glaswegians. No chance. :omg: Andy Metcalfe - Sonardyne International Ltd
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