Kostya Tszyu vs Zab Judah
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I think they should have let him fight. The ref could have done a standing count, and then Zab would have had another minute to collect himself during the time in between rounds. If he was really that bad, Tszyu would have just knocked him down again, & the fight would have been over. Judah was in there to fight, he wanted to fight, so let him fight! Jon Sagara "After all is said and done, usually more is said than done." -- Unknown
If he was really that bad, Tszyu would have just knocked him down again, & the fight would have been over. Yeah but remember he was stupified beyond belief and y'all live in the land of I'm not responsible and I'm gonna sue your arse. I think besides knowing Judah would continue to be beaten senseless (as he had no control of himself) the ref was also concerned of legal proceedings being taken against him. Michael Martin Pegasystems Pty Ltd Australia martm@pegasystems.com +61 413-004-018 "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone
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Did anyone agree Judah should have been left to carry on? Do you think the boxing authorities will do anything but fine him? Any chance of a suspension? Who cares? Professional boxing is a farse. Don King is a corrupt money making beast, hardly human at all. The fights are rigged, the fans disapointed (imagine paying $500 for a ring side seat only to watch a 5 second boxing match?!?) and frankly even hinting that pro-boxing is a sport is degrading to all sportsmen. Amateur boxing on the other hand can be very enjoyable. There is grace, skill and tactics involved in amateur boxing. Pro-boxing is all about who hits hardest and is ready to take a fall, that is pathetic. Pro-boxing and WWF should join forces and become the biggest fool-sport on the planet. IMHO :) regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge "In other words, the developer is dealing with an elephant, the accountant is dealing with a bunny rabbit." by Stan Shannon - 16/10/2001
Professional boxing is a farse. Don King is a corrupt money making beast, hardly human at all. The fights are rigged, the fans disapointed (imagine paying $500 for a ring side seat only to watch a 5 second boxing match?!?) and frankly even hinting that pro-boxing is a sport is degrading to all sportsmen. All this drivel coming from a South African. Now what can I say ... "Ah yes, cricket, Hansie Cronje and that opening bat bloke Gibb's or something so unimportant that I can't remember his name.". Now that was corruption at it's best, "Yes I can throw that match if you pay me enough.". And sportsmenship, we rugger types aren't really as good as we say so lets shoulder play makers on the other team while their not in possesion of the ball. Give me Mike Tyson and Don King anytime. At least they don't hide behind "Gee we're fucking nice blokes and believe in God and that.". They're and know it be it. Michael Martin Pegasystems Pty Ltd Australia martm@pegasystems.com +61 413-004-018 "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone
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Amateur boxing on the other hand can be very enjoyable. There is grace, skill and tactics involved in amateur boxing. You're joking, right? Amateur boxing "judging" is pathetic. No one can agree on what a scoring punch is, and no one cares about body shots anyway, so fights devolve into the guys throwing haymakers at each other's head. whee. As for the WWF, well it's become pretty awful lately. No new guys are moving up to the top level (Jericho and Benoit had a chance, but the plug was pulled on that after only 2 weeks) so it's gotten sooooo boring and repetitive. Not to mention that too much TV time is given the bloody McMahons. Vince vs. Shane as the main event of a show? Puh-leeze. :rolleyes: --Mike-- http://home.inreach.com/mdunn/ #include "witty_sig.h" :love: your :bob: with :vegemite: and :beer:
You're joking, right? Amateur boxing "judging" is pathetic. No one can agree on what a scoring punch is, and no one cares about body shots anyway, so fights devolve into the guys throwing haymakers at each other's head. whee. Well said Mike, watching the Olympics shows up the pathetic judging. Fighter One smacks Fighter Two on the chin his head snaps back. No scoring shot as the ancient judges didn't click their buzzer within a second of each other. Also corruption is rife in the judging with judges giving their countrymen matches they haven't even gone close to winning. Look at 1984 Los Angeles Olympics and Jeff Fenech for an example. Michael Martin Pegasystems Pty Ltd Australia martm@pegasystems.com +61 413-004-018 "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone
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I think the ref made the right decision. Judah was not on this planet. cheers, Chris Maunder (CodeProject)
Well what do you know, a smart, witty and succinct reply. I expected nothing less from a fellow Aussie. :-D Michael Martin Pegasystems Pty Ltd Australia martm@pegasystems.com +61 413-004-018 "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone
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My opinion: Boxing is not a sport, it is just a couple of guys beating the crap out of each other. Boxing should be banned. Anybody who enjoys watching boxing are just a bunch of neanderthals(sp?) reverting to their primal instincts. Boxers are bunch of losers who don't have the brains to do anything but throw their fists around. Boxing promoters are a bunch of leaches who would do anything for a buck. /My opinion: --- It may be that your sole purpose in life is simply to serve as a warning to others.
So what sport is worthy in your opinion? By worthy I don't mean just doesn't involve punching someone in the head either. All sports really have no purpose other than to prove one person is better than the other. Many sports lead to people dying or being permanently injured also. I just don't get the animosity it's their choice. Do you also hate people of different religious view points or sexual orientation? No ones making you watch or participate. :confused: Michael Martin Pegasystems Pty Ltd Australia martm@pegasystems.com +61 413-004-018 "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone
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Professional boxing is a farse. Don King is a corrupt money making beast, hardly human at all. The fights are rigged, the fans disapointed (imagine paying $500 for a ring side seat only to watch a 5 second boxing match?!?) and frankly even hinting that pro-boxing is a sport is degrading to all sportsmen. All this drivel coming from a South African. Now what can I say ... "Ah yes, cricket, Hansie Cronje and that opening bat bloke Gibb's or something so unimportant that I can't remember his name.". Now that was corruption at it's best, "Yes I can throw that match if you pay me enough.". And sportsmenship, we rugger types aren't really as good as we say so lets shoulder play makers on the other team while their not in possesion of the ball. Give me Mike Tyson and Don King anytime. At least they don't hide behind "Gee we're fucking nice blokes and believe in God and that.". They're and know it be it. Michael Martin Pegasystems Pty Ltd Australia martm@pegasystems.com +61 413-004-018 "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone
All this drivel coming from a South African Hah, you should be collecting my drivel and publishing it in a book as I will be famous one day and then you will be sorry, you, you, Australian! X| "Ah yes, cricket, Hansie Cronje and that opening bat bloke Gibb's Granted cricket has been rocked by some scandals lately* but boxing is corrupt from the very top, from the guy who owns boxing. There is no match without Mr. King and his millions. Sorry Michael but boxing is far worse than cricket, don't even deny it. And sportsmenship, we rugger types aren't really as good as we say so lets shoulder play makers on the other team while their not in possesion of the ball. Stupid players do stupid things. Happens in every sport. I have seen tennis players almost kill an umpire, golf players take a swing at fellow players etc. etc. Tempers get heated and control gets frayed. btw that player you are talking about has been banned for a few matches. I would love to see a boxer even be reprimanded for bad play. Give me Mike Tyson and Don King anytime. At least they don't hide behind "Gee we're f***ing nice blokes and believe in God and that.". They're and know it be it. Hansie was an idiot but that does not mean Mike and King are forgiven for their transgressions just because they admit they are phuked up people. They are the low of the low, scum of the earth. I think you and I need to get in a boxing ring and go a few rounds :-D * though frankly you bleeding Aussies are the worst. Shane and the gang got off with a rap on the nuckles for MUCH worse match fixing and our guy gets dragged over hot coals, no fair! regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge "In other words, the developer is dealing with an elephant, the accountant is dealing with a bunny rabbit." by Stan Shannon - 16/10/2001
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If he was really that bad, Tszyu would have just knocked him down again, & the fight would have been over. Yeah but remember he was stupified beyond belief and y'all live in the land of I'm not responsible and I'm gonna sue your arse. I think besides knowing Judah would continue to be beaten senseless (as he had no control of himself) the ref was also concerned of legal proceedings being taken against him. Michael Martin Pegasystems Pty Ltd Australia martm@pegasystems.com +61 413-004-018 "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone
Doesn't matter. Judah is a boxer. Boxers know they are taking certain risks when they step into the ring. If they want to get their faces smashed in, let them. Survival of the fittest. Jon Sagara "After all is said and done, usually more is said than done." -- Unknown
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So what sport is worthy in your opinion? By worthy I don't mean just doesn't involve punching someone in the head either. All sports really have no purpose other than to prove one person is better than the other. Many sports lead to people dying or being permanently injured also. I just don't get the animosity it's their choice. Do you also hate people of different religious view points or sexual orientation? No ones making you watch or participate. :confused: Michael Martin Pegasystems Pty Ltd Australia martm@pegasystems.com +61 413-004-018 "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone
So what sport is worthy in your opinion? Hockey is my number one choice, football, curling, soccer is ok, baseball, basketball, tennis, ect. basicly any sport that relies on the skill and stamina of the athlete. Any sport who's sole object it is is to give your opponent a concussion (more points if you place him in a coma) does not deserve my respect. Do you also hate people of different religious view points or sexual orientation? I can't believe that you would stoop so low as to as to suggest this. Why is it that when ever someone can't support their argument on it's merits, they have to start calling the other guy a bigot or racist. this is the same thing that happens here in Canada if you don't agree with everything the politically correct crowd says when it comes to the settlement of various social issues. You have to either agree 100% with them, or you are the devil incarnate. No ones making you watch or participate You're right, and I don't. But that won't stop me from having an opinion ;P --- It may be that your sole purpose in life is simply to serve as a warning to others.
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My opinion: Boxing is not a sport, it is just a couple of guys beating the crap out of each other. Boxing should be banned. Anybody who enjoys watching boxing are just a bunch of neanderthals(sp?) reverting to their primal instincts. Boxers are bunch of losers who don't have the brains to do anything but throw their fists around. Boxing promoters are a bunch of leaches who would do anything for a buck. /My opinion: --- It may be that your sole purpose in life is simply to serve as a warning to others.
OK, here's my opinion: Boxing is a sport because A. It involves physical activity and training, B. People compete to win. The fact that the activity involves throwing punches at another person does not mean it isn't a sport. There's also two things to note: 1. The object is to hit your opponent more than he hits you, not to kill him or cause grave bodily injury. 2. Usually after a match you see the opponents embrace and say, "Good Fight!". This seals the event as what it is: a competition, not a death match. Boxers could say that programmers are a bunch of fat nerds who couldn't defend themselves from a fly. Boxing promoters are probably not much different than technical recruiters. Regards, Alvaro
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So what sport is worthy in your opinion? Hockey is my number one choice, football, curling, soccer is ok, baseball, basketball, tennis, ect. basicly any sport that relies on the skill and stamina of the athlete. Any sport who's sole object it is is to give your opponent a concussion (more points if you place him in a coma) does not deserve my respect. Do you also hate people of different religious view points or sexual orientation? I can't believe that you would stoop so low as to as to suggest this. Why is it that when ever someone can't support their argument on it's merits, they have to start calling the other guy a bigot or racist. this is the same thing that happens here in Canada if you don't agree with everything the politically correct crowd says when it comes to the settlement of various social issues. You have to either agree 100% with them, or you are the devil incarnate. No ones making you watch or participate You're right, and I don't. But that won't stop me from having an opinion ;P --- It may be that your sole purpose in life is simply to serve as a warning to others.
Hockey is my number one choice... From what I have seen of Ice Hockey it seems to be a dance with a puck as a lead up to punching the other bloke into submission/unconsciousness. Can't see how you can like this and hate boxing so much. Boxers choose to box, train and have the skill level to do what they do. Not that many end up in coma's. Also boxing doesn't have sticks to hit other people with. yes I have seen this in professional hockey. I can't believe that you would stoop so low as to as to suggest this. Didn't suggest anything simply a question. I didn't call you a racist either. You seemed to have a hate of boxers (not people who like boxing) and you hate boxing. So the question wasn't that much of a stretch. I can support my arguments and I don't care if others have differing opinions I like to see that they can support their arguments without contradicting themselves. With your love for hockey I think you lose the argument on contradiction. Michael Martin Pegasystems Pty Ltd Australia martm@pegasystems.com +61 413-004-018 "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone
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OK, here's my opinion: Boxing is a sport because A. It involves physical activity and training, B. People compete to win. The fact that the activity involves throwing punches at another person does not mean it isn't a sport. There's also two things to note: 1. The object is to hit your opponent more than he hits you, not to kill him or cause grave bodily injury. 2. Usually after a match you see the opponents embrace and say, "Good Fight!". This seals the event as what it is: a competition, not a death match. Boxers could say that programmers are a bunch of fat nerds who couldn't defend themselves from a fly. Boxing promoters are probably not much different than technical recruiters. Regards, Alvaro
Great analogy, I have never thought of it that way before. :-D Michael Martin Pegasystems Pty Ltd Australia martm@pegasystems.com +61 413-004-018 "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone
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All this drivel coming from a South African Hah, you should be collecting my drivel and publishing it in a book as I will be famous one day and then you will be sorry, you, you, Australian! X| "Ah yes, cricket, Hansie Cronje and that opening bat bloke Gibb's Granted cricket has been rocked by some scandals lately* but boxing is corrupt from the very top, from the guy who owns boxing. There is no match without Mr. King and his millions. Sorry Michael but boxing is far worse than cricket, don't even deny it. And sportsmenship, we rugger types aren't really as good as we say so lets shoulder play makers on the other team while their not in possesion of the ball. Stupid players do stupid things. Happens in every sport. I have seen tennis players almost kill an umpire, golf players take a swing at fellow players etc. etc. Tempers get heated and control gets frayed. btw that player you are talking about has been banned for a few matches. I would love to see a boxer even be reprimanded for bad play. Give me Mike Tyson and Don King anytime. At least they don't hide behind "Gee we're f***ing nice blokes and believe in God and that.". They're and know it be it. Hansie was an idiot but that does not mean Mike and King are forgiven for their transgressions just because they admit they are phuked up people. They are the low of the low, scum of the earth. I think you and I need to get in a boxing ring and go a few rounds :-D * though frankly you bleeding Aussies are the worst. Shane and the gang got off with a rap on the nuckles for MUCH worse match fixing and our guy gets dragged over hot coals, no fair! regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge "In other words, the developer is dealing with an elephant, the accountant is dealing with a bunny rabbit." by Stan Shannon - 16/10/2001
Hah, you should be collecting my drivel and publishing it in a book as I will be famous one day and then you will be sorry, you, you, Australian! Wouldn't waste my time, no one wants to know what a South African thinks. btw that player you are talking about has been banned for a few matches. I would love to see a boxer even be reprimanded for bad play. Tyson did get suspended and fined, a lot longer and more than any Rugby player received. Shane Warne and Mark Waugh gave weather reports. You know that you South African idiot. They're both studying Meteorology as we speak and dream of presenting the weather at the end of the channel 9 news. Michael Martin Pegasystems Pty Ltd Australia martm@pegasystems.com +61 413-004-018 "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone
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Hockey is my number one choice... From what I have seen of Ice Hockey it seems to be a dance with a puck as a lead up to punching the other bloke into submission/unconsciousness. Can't see how you can like this and hate boxing so much. Boxers choose to box, train and have the skill level to do what they do. Not that many end up in coma's. Also boxing doesn't have sticks to hit other people with. yes I have seen this in professional hockey. I can't believe that you would stoop so low as to as to suggest this. Didn't suggest anything simply a question. I didn't call you a racist either. You seemed to have a hate of boxers (not people who like boxing) and you hate boxing. So the question wasn't that much of a stretch. I can support my arguments and I don't care if others have differing opinions I like to see that they can support their arguments without contradicting themselves. With your love for hockey I think you lose the argument on contradiction. Michael Martin Pegasystems Pty Ltd Australia martm@pegasystems.com +61 413-004-018 "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone
Yes, I've heard the joke: "I went to the fight, and a hockey game broke out." But the fight is not the point of hockey. Hockey is a rough game, and sometimes (too frequently) some players loose their cool and they fight. That does not mean I like the fights, it just means they happen. I have also seen fights in basketball, baseball, soccer, and even tennis. Does that mean there is no difference between these sports and boxing?? Of course not!! Boxing has the fight as it's main and only attraction, and that point alone is enough for me to dislike it. I don't hate boxers, I have never meet one. I just think that anyone who thinks that beating the crap out of someone else (or getting the crap beat out of them) is a good way to make a living can not be the most intelligent person around. Enough said, you are not going to get me to change my mind, and I am not trying to change yours. To each his own:rose: --- It may be that your sole purpose in life is simply to serve as a warning to others.
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Yes, I've heard the joke: "I went to the fight, and a hockey game broke out." But the fight is not the point of hockey. Hockey is a rough game, and sometimes (too frequently) some players loose their cool and they fight. That does not mean I like the fights, it just means they happen. I have also seen fights in basketball, baseball, soccer, and even tennis. Does that mean there is no difference between these sports and boxing?? Of course not!! Boxing has the fight as it's main and only attraction, and that point alone is enough for me to dislike it. I don't hate boxers, I have never meet one. I just think that anyone who thinks that beating the crap out of someone else (or getting the crap beat out of them) is a good way to make a living can not be the most intelligent person around. Enough said, you are not going to get me to change my mind, and I am not trying to change yours. To each his own:rose: --- It may be that your sole purpose in life is simply to serve as a warning to others.
Enough said, you are not going to get me to change my mind, and I am not trying to change yours. To each his own. No worries. :-D Michael Martin Pegasystems Pty Ltd Australia martm@pegasystems.com +61 413-004-018 "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone
