The Onion - God is Pissed
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Damn John, given some of the replies, I guess you should have put a "HUMOR ALERT" on your message. Tim Smith Descartes Systems Sciences, Inc.
He's getting old, so let's forgive him. Truely I think the post is based on some facts, though I don't buy the argument that religion is itself has anything to do with it. It's the fanatics and extremist who are to blame. // Fazlul
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That doesn't mean that the whole war was based on religion. Let me lay this down in the Common Speech: If it was not for religion, the war would never have been fought on the scale it was, and indeed may never have even began, as WWI may not have come around. The same can be said about the massacre of million of Jews by Hitler Er? What exactly did you think I was talking about? I was talking about the genocide of the Jews. That was clearly based on religion, and was a fight between Christians and Jews. Religions don't have fights - followers of them do. David Wulff, Founder of The BLA dwulff@battleaxesoftware.com New's flash - Bob caught in kitchen incident. P.S. Oh, and I'll just point out that it wasn't Hitler who was directly responsible for the genocide. That's like saying Bush was directly responsible for the September 11th attacks.
That was clearly based on religion, and was a fight between Christians and Jews. I thought fascists don't have any religion. // Fazlul
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Samantha, I am a Christian myself, and I have learned that that there are people here who are very venomous in their antireligious opinions. If you come across something here that offends you, the best thing to do is to ignore it. To do otherwise can lead to a flame war that can get nasty (some will even take it out of the lounge and send you personal hateful emails). So lighten up, learn to laugh at yourself, and see the humour in things. (Just some advice, do with it as you will:rose: ) As for that article, (language aside) I think it is a pretty accurate representation of how God must feel. I think He is very angry at us for all the evil things we do "in the name of God". But I also believe He is a loving and caring God, and as long as we follow His word to the best of our abilities, everything will turn out fine. --- It may be that your sole purpose in life is simply to serve as a warning to others.
"To do otherwise can lead to a flame war that can get nasty (some will even take it out of the lounge and send you personal hateful emails). " Don't worry PJ, I'm not a war freak person... :rolleyes: just a simple girl on the block.. "learn to laugh at yourself" Why would I laugh at myself? I don't look funny... but I can say I'm cute... ;P "and see the humour in things. (Just some advice, do with it as you will )" I can see loud and clear... ;) :rolleyes: "But I also believe He is a loving and caring God, and as long as we follow His word to the best of our abilities, everything will turn out fine. " I second the motion!! :rose: Samantha :rose:
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Lighten up, Samantha. Leaving alone for a moment the differences between Catholicism and Christianity, if you're not a 'very devoted' Catholic, then how can you get all self righteous because someone made a joke, especially one which makes a very valid point ? Christian After all, there's nothing wrong with an elite as long as I'm allowed to be part of it!! - Mike Burston Oct 23, 2001
"if you're not a 'very devoted' Catholic, then how can you get all self righteous because someone made a joke, especially one which makes a very valid point ?" Which makes a very valid point? Hey Christian! it's a lounge and everyone has it's own opinion and I'm just sharing my opinion, what I believe... I know that when the topic comes to religion it's a never ending debate.....which is why John is smart enough to put that link to lounge... ;) :rose: Samantha:rose:
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That was clearly based on religion, and was a fight between Christians and Jews. I thought fascists don't have any religion. // Fazlul
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People are free to believe in whatever they want. If they have a need to justify something to themselves, then religion is the only way to go. Remember, that when it comes to god, no one can prove you wrong. That's the beauty of faith (and the one major flaw in the whole religion shenanigan). David Wulff, Founder of The BLA dwulff@battleaxesoftware.com New's flash - Bob caught in kitchen incident.
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That was clearly based on religion, and was a fight between Christians and Jews. I thought fascists don't have any religion. // Fazlul
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I am not sure I answered your question with my prior reply, so I will try again: The fact that you can define either side as haviing faith for a particular religion, makes it beased on religion. It's wasn't racial genocide, but religous genocide (though admitidly the Jews are a race in their own right). David Wulff, Founder of The BLA dwulff@battleaxesoftware.com New's flash - Bob caught in kitchen incident.
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People are free to believe in whatever they want. If they have a need to justify something to themselves, then religion is the only way to go. Remember, that when it comes to god, no one can prove you wrong. That's the beauty of faith (and the one major flaw in the whole religion shenanigan). David Wulff, Founder of The BLA dwulff@battleaxesoftware.com New's flash - Bob caught in kitchen incident.
If they have a need to justify something to themselves, then religion is the only way to go ..if that is justified by the religion that person follows. // Fazlul
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http://www.theonion.com/onion3734/god\_clarifies\_dont\_kill.html "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001
Saw this weeks ago, I can't believe I didn't post a link myself. X| Michael Martin Pegasystems Pty Ltd Australia martm@pegasystems.com +61 413-004-018 "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone
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"if you're not a 'very devoted' Catholic, then how can you get all self righteous because someone made a joke, especially one which makes a very valid point ?" Which makes a very valid point? Hey Christian! it's a lounge and everyone has it's own opinion and I'm just sharing my opinion, what I believe... I know that when the topic comes to religion it's a never ending debate.....which is why John is smart enough to put that link to lounge... ;) :rose: Samantha:rose:
I meant the article makes a valid point about morons who think that God wants particular people to die and needs other people to help Him do it. You're welcome to share your opinion, I'm sharing mine. Christian After all, there's nothing wrong with an elite as long as I'm allowed to be part of it!! - Mike Burston Oct 23, 2001
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If they have a need to justify something to themselves, then religion is the only way to go ..if that is justified by the religion that person follows. // Fazlul
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Not necessarily. Who says what a religion allows? Does Christianity allow practicing homosexuals? Does Christianity allow you to fight in a war? Does Christianity allow you to lie with a beast as you would lie with a women? This is one of the points I always make: religion is open to interpretation by whoever finds the need for it. I could find evidence to condem and condone all of the examples I gave above, should I actually be bothered to. David Wulff, Founder of The BLA dwulff@battleaxesoftware.com New's flash - Bob caught in kitchen incident.
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I am not sure I answered your question with my prior reply, so I will try again: The fact that you can define either side as haviing faith for a particular religion, makes it beased on religion. It's wasn't racial genocide, but religous genocide (though admitidly the Jews are a race in their own right). David Wulff, Founder of The BLA dwulff@battleaxesoftware.com New's flash - Bob caught in kitchen incident.
The fact that you can define either side as haviing faith for a particular religion, makes it beased on religion. It's wasn't racial genocide, but religous genocide (though admitidly the Jews are a race in their own right). Unfortunately, the Jews were in the recieving end of this genocide, but what about the Hitler and his fascist gang? Were they motivated by the any Christian doctrines? I don't think anybody would consider them as Christians. No? // Fazlul
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"To do otherwise can lead to a flame war that can get nasty (some will even take it out of the lounge and send you personal hateful emails). " Don't worry PJ, I'm not a war freak person... :rolleyes: just a simple girl on the block.. "learn to laugh at yourself" Why would I laugh at myself? I don't look funny... but I can say I'm cute... ;P "and see the humour in things. (Just some advice, do with it as you will )" I can see loud and clear... ;) :rolleyes: "But I also believe He is a loving and caring God, and as long as we follow His word to the best of our abilities, everything will turn out fine. " I second the motion!! :rose: Samantha :rose:
"But I also believe He is a loving and caring God, and as long as we follow His word to the best of our abilities, everything will turn out fine. " Unless of course you worked in the top floors of the WTC (perhaps only heretics and sinners worked there?) Or unless you are a new born child with a fatal disease - then you can look forward to a few months (perhaps years) of pain, followed by death, without ever having the chance to follow his/her/its word. Such a loving and caring god. ----------------------------- "My name is Sven und I am from Sveden. I am making das moovies mit mine friend Inga, fvor ve are very poor." - Christian Graus, Oct 29 2001 -----------------------------
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"But I also believe He is a loving and caring God, and as long as we follow His word to the best of our abilities, everything will turn out fine. " Unless of course you worked in the top floors of the WTC (perhaps only heretics and sinners worked there?) Or unless you are a new born child with a fatal disease - then you can look forward to a few months (perhaps years) of pain, followed by death, without ever having the chance to follow his/her/its word. Such a loving and caring god. ----------------------------- "My name is Sven und I am from Sveden. I am making das moovies mit mine friend Inga, fvor ve are very poor." - Christian Graus, Oct 29 2001 -----------------------------
Come on Mike, you know full well they have all sorts of "free-will" and "God must be evil to be kind" excuses up their sleeves. They have get-out clauses to every possible question. David Wulff, Founder of The BLA dwulff@battleaxesoftware.com New's flash - Bob caught in kitchen incident.
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The fact that you can define either side as haviing faith for a particular religion, makes it beased on religion. It's wasn't racial genocide, but religous genocide (though admitidly the Jews are a race in their own right). Unfortunately, the Jews were in the recieving end of this genocide, but what about the Hitler and his fascist gang? Were they motivated by the any Christian doctrines? I don't think anybody would consider them as Christians. No? // Fazlul
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Were they motivated by the any Christian doctrines? I don't think anybody would consider them as Christians. No? Tim McVeigh was a Christian, and under their 'rules' is now in heaven. But that's my point. No one can say what religion a person is, save the individual themselves. Nowhere is there a set of rules that you must adhere to in order to be considered religious. A prime example are the supposed motives driving the Taliban. And I don't know if you can say that - thoughout history people have believed that certian religions give them the right to butcher other religions' followers. Again that brings me back to the fact that anybody can interpret a religion in any way they like. David Wulff, Founder of The BLA dwulff@battleaxesoftware.com New's flash - Bob caught in kitchen incident.
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Thanks John - nothing like a quick savaging of religious doctrines to get the day started right! I especially liked the caption under the picture - "Above: God.". ----------------------------- "My name is Sven und I am from Sveden. I am making das moovies mit mine friend Inga, fvor ve are very poor." - Christian Graus, Oct 29 2001 -----------------------------
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Were they motivated by the any Christian doctrines? I don't think anybody would consider them as Christians. No? Tim McVeigh was a Christian, and under their 'rules' is now in heaven. But that's my point. No one can say what religion a person is, save the individual themselves. Nowhere is there a set of rules that you must adhere to in order to be considered religious. A prime example are the supposed motives driving the Taliban. And I don't know if you can say that - thoughout history people have believed that certian religions give them the right to butcher other religions' followers. Again that brings me back to the fact that anybody can interpret a religion in any way they like. David Wulff, Founder of The BLA dwulff@battleaxesoftware.com New's flash - Bob caught in kitchen incident.
THUD, THUD, THUD, THUD, THUD.... David how is your head and that brick wall coming along? :-D Michael Martin Pegasystems Pty Ltd Australia martm@pegasystems.com +61 413-004-018 "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone
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Damn John, given some of the replies, I guess you should have put a "HUMOR ALERT" on your message. Tim Smith Descartes Systems Sciences, Inc.
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Come on Mike, you know full well they have all sorts of "free-will" and "God must be evil to be kind" excuses up their sleeves. They have get-out clauses to every possible question. David Wulff, Founder of The BLA dwulff@battleaxesoftware.com New's flash - Bob caught in kitchen incident.
They have get-out clauses to every possible question. Yes, and isn't amazing how god managed to create a system that seems so 'man-made'! ----------------------------- "I leave no turn un-stoned. " - John Simmons, Nov 6 2001 -----------------------------
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THUD, THUD, THUD, THUD, THUD.... David how is your head and that brick wall coming along? :-D Michael Martin Pegasystems Pty Ltd Australia martm@pegasystems.com +61 413-004-018 "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone
Strange - I was just thinking that. David Wulff, Founder of The BLA dwulff@battleaxesoftware.com New's flash - Bob caught in kitchen incident.
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Were they motivated by the any Christian doctrines? I don't think anybody would consider them as Christians. No? Tim McVeigh was a Christian, and under their 'rules' is now in heaven. But that's my point. No one can say what religion a person is, save the individual themselves. Nowhere is there a set of rules that you must adhere to in order to be considered religious. A prime example are the supposed motives driving the Taliban. And I don't know if you can say that - thoughout history people have believed that certian religions give them the right to butcher other religions' followers. Again that brings me back to the fact that anybody can interpret a religion in any way they like. David Wulff, Founder of The BLA dwulff@battleaxesoftware.com New's flash - Bob caught in kitchen incident.
Tim McVeigh was a Christian, and under their 'rules' is now in heaven. I don't know about this, but even if it's true, this shouldn't motivate someone like Hitler to do something that can only be characterized as crime agaist humanity. Again that brings me back to the fact that anybody can interpret a religion in any way they like. AFAIK, every religion has given some scope, within which you can interpret things differently. I don't think this is a problem, as long as it doesn't contradicts the major principals. I gotta go now. It's been a long day. Cheers. // Fazlul
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