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[Sorry mates, I posted this in the Lounge by mistake, thought I was in the SB. I blame it on the beer Bob keeps offering me. Moved to the SB, ignore this one now.] "as you probably know the United States government made a recent announcement basically prohibiting publishers from editing, translating, and even publishing works from “Axis of Evil” countries, places like Iraq and North Korea" from BookSlut Now, I can't find anything to corroborate that in the news. Is it true, surely not? Surely the citizens of the United States of America can handle words from Axis of Evil empires? regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Christopher Duncan quoted: "...that would require my explaining Einstein's Fear of Relatives" Crikey! ain't life grand? Einstein says...
Sorry, but doesn't the US have a written constitution guaranteeing free speech ? The tigress is here :-D
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http://www.hartfordadvocate.com/gbase/News/content.html?oid=oid:57223[^] Here is something on how this bit IEEE in the butt. http://chronicle.com/colloquylive/2003/10/restrict/[^] Tim Smith I'm going to patent thought. I have yet to see any prior art.
Thanks Tim, that is worrying info. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Christopher Duncan quoted: "...that would require my explaining Einstein's Fear of Relatives" Crikey! ain't life grand? Einstein says...
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Sorry, but doesn't the US have a written constitution guaranteeing free speech ? The tigress is here :-D
Yeah, that is what one would think but check out what Tim posted above. Here is how it seems they are getting censorship around the constitution: "collaboration on and editing of the manuscripts ... and facilitation of a review resulting in substantive enhancements or alterations" to them are illegal. The regulations, and correspondence elaborating them, are available for reading on the web site for the Treasury Department's Office of Foreign Assets Control. The logic behind the new rule is that, while publishing is not forbidden under U.S. law, editing and enhancing manuscripts -- by illustrating them, for example -- makes them more salable, and therefore constitutes an economic service to an embargoed country. from Hartford. Do you think that is a subtle but knowing attempt at censorship or a law gone too far and not what they inteded? regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Christopher Duncan quoted: "...that would require my explaining Einstein's Fear of Relatives" Crikey! ain't life grand? Einstein says...
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Sorry, but doesn't the US have a written constitution guaranteeing free speech ? The tigress is here :-D
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[Sorry mates, I posted this in the Lounge by mistake, thought I was in the SB. I blame it on the beer Bob keeps offering me. Moved to the SB, ignore this one now.] "as you probably know the United States government made a recent announcement basically prohibiting publishers from editing, translating, and even publishing works from “Axis of Evil” countries, places like Iraq and North Korea" from BookSlut Now, I can't find anything to corroborate that in the news. Is it true, surely not? Surely the citizens of the United States of America can handle words from Axis of Evil empires? regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Christopher Duncan quoted: "...that would require my explaining Einstein's Fear of Relatives" Crikey! ain't life grand? Einstein says...
Hey! Reading works from behind the fence could help understanding them, and it's so hard to bomb someone you understand... that might ultimately bring halt the economic growth of important huge US companies.... or whatever conspiracy theory you like to adhere to. Paul Watson wrote: corroborate wow! a new word! whoohooo! I really don't understand the motivation behind this. if the Mullahs are afraid of western decadence, fine. But what is the US afraid of? Why would the US want to take away a public voice from the few that dare critizize their regime? I've seen very interesting (and a boring) movie coming from Iran. It would be a pity to drown these voices, simply for the things we could learn about them.
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[Sorry mates, I posted this in the Lounge by mistake, thought I was in the SB. I blame it on the beer Bob keeps offering me. Moved to the SB, ignore this one now.] "as you probably know the United States government made a recent announcement basically prohibiting publishers from editing, translating, and even publishing works from “Axis of Evil” countries, places like Iraq and North Korea" from BookSlut Now, I can't find anything to corroborate that in the news. Is it true, surely not? Surely the citizens of the United States of America can handle words from Axis of Evil empires? regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Christopher Duncan quoted: "...that would require my explaining Einstein's Fear of Relatives" Crikey! ain't life grand? Einstein says...
The logic behind the new rule is that, while publishing is not forbidden under U.S. law, editing and enhancing manuscripts -- by illustrating them, for example -- makes them more salable, and therefore constitutes an economic service to an embargoed country. from Clickety[^] Still, this is silly. And if the reason is an "economic service", than sure publishing itself would be in, too. At least, at the wink of a judge to say so.
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It's utter nonsense. (I do find it both ironic and telling that the author didn't blast those very same countries for their censorship. Even some western countries have been dabbling, to be euphemistic, with anti-hate speech laws which result in defacto censorship.) Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke
Joe, we are not talking about censoring media based on it's content, but on it's country of origin. Just because they are afraid of the books you write, why should you be afraid of their books? One of the related articles stated that the idea is not to provide an "economic service" to a "rogue nation". IMO drowning all voices from there is more dangerous than having a few bucks flowing.
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Hey! Reading works from behind the fence could help understanding them, and it's so hard to bomb someone you understand... that might ultimately bring halt the economic growth of important huge US companies.... or whatever conspiracy theory you like to adhere to. Paul Watson wrote: corroborate wow! a new word! whoohooo! I really don't understand the motivation behind this. if the Mullahs are afraid of western decadence, fine. But what is the US afraid of? Why would the US want to take away a public voice from the few that dare critizize their regime? I've seen very interesting (and a boring) movie coming from Iran. It would be a pity to drown these voices, simply for the things we could learn about them.
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mlog || Agile Programming | doxygen>Why would the US want to take away a public voice from the few that dare critizize their regime? Good point. Most of the time it is the evil country which is trying to prevent it's citizens publishing abroad as what they want to publish is the truth of life under that regime. How often do we get a North Korean trying to publish a "My Wonderful Life Under Kim Jong" book? If anyting these videos and books help the Bushites in finding support for bringing down a regime. Sorry but Bush really does seem paranoid about other cultures. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Christopher Duncan quoted: "...that would require my explaining Einstein's Fear of Relatives" Crikey! ain't life grand? Einstein says...
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My intended reply is not loungable. Definitely not. :(
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mlog || Agile Programming | doxygenErr, woops, I thought I had started this thread in the SB. I normally hit the Lounge and then from the drop-down go to the SB. :-O regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Christopher Duncan quoted: "...that would require my explaining Einstein's Fear of Relatives" Crikey! ain't life grand? Einstein says...
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The logic behind the new rule is that, while publishing is not forbidden under U.S. law, editing and enhancing manuscripts -- by illustrating them, for example -- makes them more salable, and therefore constitutes an economic service to an embargoed country. from Clickety[^] Still, this is silly. And if the reason is an "economic service", than sure publishing itself would be in, too. At least, at the wink of a judge to say so.
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mlog || Agile Programming | doxygenMaybe the proceeds from publishing a book from an embargoed country should be held within the States until such a time as the country is disembargoed or the author leaves the country (not saying they can leave willingly, but should they). Or they could do a Books for Food deal or use the proceeds to build bombs to rain down on the country... (ok so I didn't just say that last bit) It is a tricky situation though. You can say the proceeds go to a disenting citizen of the embargoed country but there is no guarantee the country will not simply sieze any foreign earnings. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Christopher Duncan quoted: "...that would require my explaining Einstein's Fear of Relatives" Crikey! ain't life grand? Einstein says...
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Maybe the proceeds from publishing a book from an embargoed country should be held within the States until such a time as the country is disembargoed or the author leaves the country (not saying they can leave willingly, but should they). Or they could do a Books for Food deal or use the proceeds to build bombs to rain down on the country... (ok so I didn't just say that last bit) It is a tricky situation though. You can say the proceeds go to a disenting citizen of the embargoed country but there is no guarantee the country will not simply sieze any foreign earnings. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Christopher Duncan quoted: "...that would require my explaining Einstein's Fear of Relatives" Crikey! ain't life grand? Einstein says...
I really think if s/he's someone who finds interested readers in the western civilization, it can't hurt sending her some bucks. [edit]And if some of the money stops by at a Iranian publisher who is willing to publish someone like this, the better.[/edit] After all I think we rarely talk about more than $1,000 here. Of course this could be abused to transfer money to that country. But if that money goes to "bad hands", there is already enough legislation to stop that (funding terrorists and whatever).
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[Sorry mates, I posted this in the Lounge by mistake, thought I was in the SB. I blame it on the beer Bob keeps offering me. Moved to the SB, ignore this one now.] "as you probably know the United States government made a recent announcement basically prohibiting publishers from editing, translating, and even publishing works from “Axis of Evil” countries, places like Iraq and North Korea" from BookSlut Now, I can't find anything to corroborate that in the news. Is it true, surely not? Surely the citizens of the United States of America can handle words from Axis of Evil empires? regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Christopher Duncan quoted: "...that would require my explaining Einstein's Fear of Relatives" Crikey! ain't life grand? Einstein says...
Someone here asked what is America afraid of. Well, I got one idea about the reason for this kind of action. "They" use the opportunity to create a precedent, that for some reasons (very understandable at one moment) to censor something considered "dangerous". It sounds like the theory of the conspiracy but where`s a better explanation? Also, excuse me for my bad english. It`s only my first post to CP.:-O World could be better!
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Someone here asked what is America afraid of. Well, I got one idea about the reason for this kind of action. "They" use the opportunity to create a precedent, that for some reasons (very understandable at one moment) to censor something considered "dangerous". It sounds like the theory of the conspiracy but where`s a better explanation? Also, excuse me for my bad english. It`s only my first post to CP.:-O World could be better!
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