yawhee....today at midnight EU grows
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Today at midnight EU will grow up to a population of 455 Million people !!!....isn't that great?! I mean people and countries which were fighting against each other in so many wars in the past are now peacefully together in EU... (ok, it sounds a little bit exaggerated...but the fact that my generation didn't experienced a war directly is because of unions like EU).
SJ_Phoenix wrote: (ok, it sounds a little bit exaggerated...but the fact that my generation didn't experienced a war directly is because of unions like EU). More like things like NATO. And your generation isn't dead yet so you may still get the thrill Richard "The man that hath not music in himself and is not moved with concord of sweet sounds is fit for treasons, stratagems and spoils; Let no man trust him." Shakespeare
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Sorry for the questions, but who is joining this club tonight? Is another currency being removed? Chris Meech We're more like a hobbiest in a Home Depot drooling at all the shiny power tools, rather than a craftsman that makes the chair to an exacting level of comfort by measuring the customer's butt. Marc Clifton VB is like a toolbox, in the hands of a craftsman, you can end up with some amazing stuff, but without the skills to use it right you end up with Homer Simpson's attempt at building a barbeque or his attempt at a Spice rack. Michael P. Butler
Czech republic :jig: But there are still lot of restrictions for people from new member countries. For example it isn't possible to work in all EU countries (I think that no restrictions are only in UK, Ireland and Sweden).
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SJ_Phoenix wrote: (ok, it sounds a little bit exaggerated...but the fact that my generation didn't experienced a war directly is because of unions like EU). More like things like NATO. And your generation isn't dead yet so you may still get the thrill Richard "The man that hath not music in himself and is not moved with concord of sweet sounds is fit for treasons, stratagems and spoils; Let no man trust him." Shakespeare
yes you are right, my generation isn't dead yet and could still experience war directly....but should we be that pessimistic?! ...maybe you know the proverb "hope dies at last" ;) and kidding aside...due to unions like NATO or EU it's more likely that there won't be war in Europe at least in the next decades...
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Here is a link to some information about the enlargement: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/europe/04/enlarging_europe/html/introduction.stm[^]
"You can have everything in life you want if you will just help enough other people get what they want." --Zig Ziglar Coming soon: The Second EuroCPian Event
"link" and "enlargement" in the same sentence made me hesitate to click the link. ;P --------------------------- He who knows that enough is enough will always have enough. -Lao Tsu
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Czech republic :jig: But there are still lot of restrictions for people from new member countries. For example it isn't possible to work in all EU countries (I think that no restrictions are only in UK, Ireland and Sweden).
Tomáš Petříček
www.eeeksoft.net | Photos | Fractal Snowyes...but I guess and I hope that these restrictions won't last too long......hopefully...because as long as there are restrictions for some members of EU, the countries of the EU aren't really (and fairly) united within the EU....right?!
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And all thanks to the USA. It is good to see our children growing up so nicely!
Glano perictu com sahni delorin!
A 1 not because you are wrong but because that was just an ugly thing to say. So how do you like them new Ay-rab children of yours? regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Christopher Duncan quoted: "...that would require my explaining Einstein's Fear of Relatives" Crikey! ain't life grand? Einstein says...
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SJ_Phoenix wrote: (ok, it sounds a little bit exaggerated...but the fact that my generation didn't experienced a war directly is because of unions like EU). More like things like NATO. And your generation isn't dead yet so you may still get the thrill Richard "The man that hath not music in himself and is not moved with concord of sweet sounds is fit for treasons, stratagems and spoils; Let no man trust him." Shakespeare
I bet you are a barrel of laughs at a party ;) regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Christopher Duncan quoted: "...that would require my explaining Einstein's Fear of Relatives" Crikey! ain't life grand? Einstein says...
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yes...but I guess and I hope that these restrictions won't last too long......hopefully...because as long as there are restrictions for some members of EU, the countries of the EU aren't really (and fairly) united within the EU....right?!
I think, that bigest limitation is currency and working in other countries, but economical diference between old and new members is so high, that this isn't possible. Problem with working in old EU countries is that they fear of cheap working force from new members. I can understand this, but I think, that restrictions in Germany and Austria are to high (AFAIK it is 7 years in Austria and Germany, no restrictions in UK, Ireland and Sweden and 3 years in other EU countries).
Tomáš Petříček
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Today at midnight EU will grow up to a population of 455 Million people !!!....isn't that great?! I mean people and countries which were fighting against each other in so many wars in the past are now peacefully together in EU... (ok, it sounds a little bit exaggerated...but the fact that my generation didn't experienced a war directly is because of unions like EU).
SJ_Phoenix wrote: I mean people and countries which were fighting against each other in so many wars in the past are now peacefully together in EU... We all still hate each other, war just got more expensive. Peace is just a matter of economics, at the moment it is more cost effective to play nice rather than to roll our tanks into Poland. ;-) Michael CP Blog [^]
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A 1 not because you are wrong but because that was just an ugly thing to say. So how do you like them new Ay-rab children of yours? regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Christopher Duncan quoted: "...that would require my explaining Einstein's Fear of Relatives" Crikey! ain't life grand? Einstein says...
I thought it (the concept of the EU) was Churchill's idea - but he needed the backing of the USA. I may be wrong - I haven't double checked, but it was something I remember from history lessons in School. (Along with the fact that Gorbachev could say BS in 14 languages)
"You can have everything in life you want if you will just help enough other people get what they want." --Zig Ziglar Coming soon: The Second EuroCPian Event
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And all thanks to the USA. It is good to see our children growing up so nicely!
Glano perictu com sahni delorin!
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yes you are right, my generation isn't dead yet and could still experience war directly....but should we be that pessimistic?! ...maybe you know the proverb "hope dies at last" ;) and kidding aside...due to unions like NATO or EU it's more likely that there won't be war in Europe at least in the next decades...
SJ_Phoenix wrote: but should we be that pessimistic?! . It is much better to be pessimistic and be pleasantly suprised then it is to be optomistic and be devestated with a little bad news. In general its a matter of your viewpoint. If I have half a glass of wine in MY hand I tend to think of it as half empty - if its in yours I tend to think its half full. Who's to say which is correct. Richard "The man that hath not music in himself and is not moved with concord of sweet sounds is fit for treasons, stratagems and spoils; Let no man trust him." Shakespeare
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Czech republic :jig: But there are still lot of restrictions for people from new member countries. For example it isn't possible to work in all EU countries (I think that no restrictions are only in UK, Ireland and Sweden).
Tomáš Petříček
www.eeeksoft.net | Photos | Fractal SnowA hearty welcome. You've only got 33 minutes to go (at least by my clock). :-D :beer:
"You can have everything in life you want if you will just help enough other people get what they want." --Zig Ziglar Coming soon: The Second EuroCPian Event
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I bet you are a barrel of laughs at a party ;) regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Christopher Duncan quoted: "...that would require my explaining Einstein's Fear of Relatives" Crikey! ain't life grand? Einstein says...
Damn straight. I do killer imitations of Richard Nixon meeting Jimmy Carter. Richard "The man that hath not music in himself and is not moved with concord of sweet sounds is fit for treasons, stratagems and spoils; Let no man trust him." Shakespeare
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A hearty welcome. You've only got 33 minutes to go (at least by my clock). :-D :beer:
"You can have everything in life you want if you will just help enough other people get what they want." --Zig Ziglar Coming soon: The Second EuroCPian Event
:cool: :jig: :cool: [EDIT]Current time: 0:05 05/01/2004[/EDIT]
Tomáš Petříček
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SJ_Phoenix wrote: but should we be that pessimistic?! . It is much better to be pessimistic and be pleasantly suprised then it is to be optomistic and be devestated with a little bad news. In general its a matter of your viewpoint. If I have half a glass of wine in MY hand I tend to think of it as half empty - if its in yours I tend to think its half full. Who's to say which is correct. Richard "The man that hath not music in himself and is not moved with concord of sweet sounds is fit for treasons, stratagems and spoils; Let no man trust him." Shakespeare
Richard Stringer wrote: It is much better to be pessimistic and be pleasantly suprised then it is to be optomistic and be devestated with a little bad news I don't agree - An optimist is a person who can turn bad news into an opportunity. Therefore they would not be devestated with a little bad news. A pessemist, on the other hand, is more likely to be devestated by a little bad news because of their pessimistic nature they are likely to blow the news out of all proportion. On the half full/empty question? My cup runneth over!
"You can have everything in life you want if you will just help enough other people get what they want." --Zig Ziglar Coming soon: The Second EuroCPian Event
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:cool: :jig: :cool: [EDIT]Current time: 0:05 05/01/2004[/EDIT]
Tomáš Petříček
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"You can have everything in life you want if you will just help enough other people get what they want." --Zig Ziglar Coming soon: The Second EuroCPian Event
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And all thanks to the USA. It is good to see our children growing up so nicely!
Glano perictu com sahni delorin!
Its only good when they goose-step in line though, eh? Damn French and their notions of Free Will and Sovereignty.
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no currency will be removed tonight...currency and joining EU are two different things...for instance Great Britain doesn't have the euro as currency (not yet?!) 10 countries are joining....among them many eastern european countries like Poland, Slovakia or Latvia ....and the greek part of Cyprus and Malta.
>Great Britain doesn't have the euro as currency (not yet?!) Won't happen for a long. long time IMHO - not with Rupert Murdoch in such a influential position!
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I thought it (the concept of the EU) was Churchill's idea - but he needed the backing of the USA. I may be wrong - I haven't double checked, but it was something I remember from history lessons in School. (Along with the fact that Gorbachev could say BS in 14 languages)
"You can have everything in life you want if you will just help enough other people get what they want." --Zig Ziglar Coming soon: The Second EuroCPian Event
>I thought it (the concept of the EU) was Churchill's idea It was - but he didn't want the UK to be a member, which I only recently discovered! He wanted a United States of (Continental) Europe to avoid any future wars.