yawhee....today at midnight EU grows
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Today at midnight EU will grow up to a population of 455 Million people !!!....isn't that great?! I mean people and countries which were fighting against each other in so many wars in the past are now peacefully together in EU... (ok, it sounds a little bit exaggerated...but the fact that my generation didn't experienced a war directly is because of unions like EU).
The Europe has always tried to unite the different people. And it never worked out. And if history teaches us anything,... it repeats. I hope not this time As for the limitations in coming to work in the "old " countries: this is a good thing for the new ones. My professor (law university of ghent) who is in the board that controlles the expension of the eu says the following about this. In theory the new country's must rapidly increase the earnings of the workforce. By doing so (within 3 to 5 years) eliminating the need the restrictions, giving a better future for there people and increasing the amount of money the people can spend and thus creating a greater market. They will do this by giving everyone who works for the gouverment in those country's a higher salary. The private market will atomatically follow.
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Today at midnight EU will grow up to a population of 455 Million people !!!....isn't that great?! I mean people and countries which were fighting against each other in so many wars in the past are now peacefully together in EU... (ok, it sounds a little bit exaggerated...but the fact that my generation didn't experienced a war directly is because of unions like EU).
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And all thanks to the USA. It is good to see our children growing up so nicely!
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SJ_Phoenix wrote: I mean people and countries which were fighting against each other in so many wars in the past are now peacefully together in EU... We all still hate each other, war just got more expensive. Peace is just a matter of economics, at the moment it is more cost effective to play nice rather than to roll our tanks into Poland. ;-) Michael CP Blog [^]
I'm not sure this is all that is to it. Thewre is a sense of being "tired of war" fairly deep in european culture. We are soaked in a history of glorious plans and futile deaths. I know that these things don't last. Borchert wrote that a new war will wait no longer than the generation that fought it is dead. I believe (as in: hope, religion) that it is longer, because we do have our "cultural memory". Beyond all name-calling and animosity, it would take a lot for Germany and France facing each other again the way they did for centuries.
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And all thanks to the USA. It is good to see our children growing up so nicely!
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A 1 not because you are wrong but because that was just an ugly thing to say. So how do you like them new Ay-rab children of yours? regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Christopher Duncan quoted: "...that would require my explaining Einstein's Fear of Relatives" Crikey! ain't life grand? Einstein says...
Paul Watson wrote: not because you are wrong Thank you. Paul Watson wrote: that was just an ugly thing to say To whom? Paul Watson wrote: So how do you like them new Ay-rab children of yours? We'll know in a few decades and then determine whether they are better off as free democracy or worse off due to civil war and failed democracy. They are currently in their awkward stage - like Europe after WWII. But with loving care and protection, they will grow into a thriving, modern democracy. We will know they are fully mature and ready to enter the future as an independant nation when their youthful rebellion turns into a steely determination to leave the nest and make their own way - like Europe is finally doing.
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Michael P Butler wrote: I know you think history started in 1980 with Ronnie Regan Tsk, tsk! That implies I am a conservative - which I am not. Michael P Butler wrote: but you Americans are the children of Europe Yes we are! But things come around full-circle just like in real life. Europe gave America her citizens. But then as America grew up, Europe grew old and senile and during it's Alzheimer's induced paroxysms of violence it hurt itself. It had to be moved into a rest home and be tended night and day. Europe was also schizophrenic - part of it trying to be free while its other personality marched lockstep into communism. The USA played the role of the benign nursemaid - holding the patients hands so it couldn't punch itself in the face again. Luckily, it got better. And now the patient is ready to leave the hospital. Good for Europe! I just don't see why mentioning how different the world would be if the USA sat on its hands during the world wars and the cold war is seen as "ugly".
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Its only good when they goose-step in line though, eh? Damn French and their notions of Free Will and Sovereignty.
Andrew McCarter wrote: Its only good when they goose-step in line though, eh? :confused:
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Aw c'mon grandpa, get back to your "home for the elderly". Didn't you take your pills today?? ;P
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mlog || Agile Programming | doxygenpeterchen wrote: Aw c'mon grandpa, get back to your "home for the elderly" You rascally whippersnapper! (shaking fist impotently in the air) Get out of my yard!!!! peterchen wrote: Didn't you take your pills today?? Don't need 'em anymore. With the new diet and excercise I am able to sleep on my own finally.
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I'm not sure this is all that is to it. Thewre is a sense of being "tired of war" fairly deep in european culture. We are soaked in a history of glorious plans and futile deaths. I know that these things don't last. Borchert wrote that a new war will wait no longer than the generation that fought it is dead. I believe (as in: hope, religion) that it is longer, because we do have our "cultural memory". Beyond all name-calling and animosity, it would take a lot for Germany and France facing each other again the way they did for centuries.
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mlog || Agile Programming | doxygenpeterchen wrote: it would take a lot for Germany and France facing each other again the way they did for centuries. I agree. I think Europe is poised to become the major economic power in the world and the closer ties they are experiencing will probably mean there will never be another major war in Europe. At least not until after someone sets off a nuclear war and civilization as we know it ends and the Mad Max world takes over.
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Michael P Butler wrote: I know you think history started in 1980 with Ronnie Regan Tsk, tsk! That implies I am a conservative - which I am not. Michael P Butler wrote: but you Americans are the children of Europe Yes we are! But things come around full-circle just like in real life. Europe gave America her citizens. But then as America grew up, Europe grew old and senile and during it's Alzheimer's induced paroxysms of violence it hurt itself. It had to be moved into a rest home and be tended night and day. Europe was also schizophrenic - part of it trying to be free while its other personality marched lockstep into communism. The USA played the role of the benign nursemaid - holding the patients hands so it couldn't punch itself in the face again. Luckily, it got better. And now the patient is ready to leave the hospital. Good for Europe! I just don't see why mentioning how different the world would be if the USA sat on its hands during the world wars and the cold war is seen as "ugly".
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Paul Watson wrote: not because you are wrong Thank you. Paul Watson wrote: that was just an ugly thing to say To whom? Paul Watson wrote: So how do you like them new Ay-rab children of yours? We'll know in a few decades and then determine whether they are better off as free democracy or worse off due to civil war and failed democracy. They are currently in their awkward stage - like Europe after WWII. But with loving care and protection, they will grow into a thriving, modern democracy. We will know they are fully mature and ready to enter the future as an independant nation when their youthful rebellion turns into a steely determination to leave the nest and make their own way - like Europe is finally doing.
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I'm sorry did I miss somthing? A huge reason for the EU, is precisly because europe wants/needs to detach itself from the the US as much as possible. The US has not been some kind of benevolent smiling uncle who's finally taught his niece how to walk, it's been more like some crazy thing that the here in europe we all feel like distancing ourself from. The point of the EU is that right now there is only one super-power in the world, and when it makes a poor choice (as all human organisations are capable of doing sooner or later), the divded nations of the rest of the world do not have enough clout to even make them listen! America as the "father country" of the west is being more and more synically regarded the world over - we need shelter from what their next policy might be! A single super power might be ok if it's governement was totally upright, with an unfailing passion to do what is right, not what is easy. A government which delights in the truth, is full of compassion, is always fair and trustworthy, and wise. Problem is that the US hasn't had that for a very long time [we havn't either, but that's not the point]. Currently the US does not have a governemnt of that caliber, and given enough free time this nation in it's freedom becomes more and more volatile, and less and less trustworthy. That is why I feel that the UK should take up the Euro - we will rebalance our foreign investment more towards the continent - for political reasons as much as economic ones. Joel Holdsworth Wanna give me a job over the summer? View my online CV and Job Application[^]
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I'm sorry did I miss somthing? A huge reason for the EU, is precisly because europe wants/needs to detach itself from the the US as much as possible. The US has not been some kind of benevolent smiling uncle who's finally taught his niece how to walk, it's been more like some crazy thing that the here in europe we all feel like distancing ourself from. The point of the EU is that right now there is only one super-power in the world, and when it makes a poor choice (as all human organisations are capable of doing sooner or later), the divded nations of the rest of the world do not have enough clout to even make them listen! America as the "father country" of the west is being more and more synically regarded the world over - we need shelter from what their next policy might be! A single super power might be ok if it's governement was totally upright, with an unfailing passion to do what is right, not what is easy. A government which delights in the truth, is full of compassion, is always fair and trustworthy, and wise. Problem is that the US hasn't had that for a very long time [we havn't either, but that's not the point]. Currently the US does not have a governemnt of that caliber, and given enough free time this nation in it's freedom becomes more and more volatile, and less and less trustworthy. That is why I feel that the UK should take up the Euro - we will rebalance our foreign investment more towards the continent - for political reasons as much as economic ones. Joel Holdsworth Wanna give me a job over the summer? View my online CV and Job Application[^]
Joel Holdsworth wrote: I'm sorry did I miss somthing? Only the main point of my post. Joel Holdsworth wrote: A huge reason for the EU, is precisly because europe wants/needs to detach itself from the the US as much as possible That is what I said. Joel Holdsworth wrote: That is why I feel that the UK should take up the Euro Hail Britannia! It was nice while it lasted.
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You have made a common mistake. Because I support fighting terrorism and because the current administration is republican, people think I am a conservative.
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