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  • R Rob Manderson

    if you wish, but after 5 or so years of the VC6 interface and half a year of the VS 2003 interface I find the VS 2003 interface has finally won me over :) Anyone else prepared to confess? :) Rob Manderson I'm working on a version for Visual Lisp++

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    Michael P Butler
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    It took be a while, but I can't go back to VC6 now. Gone are the days when I hit F7 in VS.NET to compile, forgetting that it is now CTRL-SHIFT-B. Now I hit CTRL-SHIFT-B in VC6 and wonder why my app isn't compiling. VS.NET has some annoying bugs (such as losing tooltips on variables when debugging), but it now feels like home. Michael CP Blog [^]

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    • M Michael P Butler

      It took be a while, but I can't go back to VC6 now. Gone are the days when I hit F7 in VS.NET to compile, forgetting that it is now CTRL-SHIFT-B. Now I hit CTRL-SHIFT-B in VC6 and wonder why my app isn't compiling. VS.NET has some annoying bugs (such as losing tooltips on variables when debugging), but it now feels like home. Michael CP Blog [^]

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      Rob Manderson
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      I'm still hitting Ctrl F7 and wondering why nothing happens :) I remember the move from VC 1.5 to VC 4.0 and how alien it felt... let alone the move from vi to PWB :) Rob Manderson I'm working on a version for Visual Lisp++

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      • R Rob Manderson

        if you wish, but after 5 or so years of the VC6 interface and half a year of the VS 2003 interface I find the VS 2003 interface has finally won me over :) Anyone else prepared to confess? :) Rob Manderson I'm working on a version for Visual Lisp++

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        Antony M Kancidrowski
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        Yea to VS 2003. I just love the class view improvements! Every thing is different to VC6 everything seems better!! :-D Ant.

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        • M Michael P Butler

          It took be a while, but I can't go back to VC6 now. Gone are the days when I hit F7 in VS.NET to compile, forgetting that it is now CTRL-SHIFT-B. Now I hit CTRL-SHIFT-B in VC6 and wonder why my app isn't compiling. VS.NET has some annoying bugs (such as losing tooltips on variables when debugging), but it now feels like home. Michael CP Blog [^]

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          Monty2
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          i have never used .NET :eek: but i fail to understand how can CTRL-SHIFT-B to compile is better than F7 C makes it easy to shoot yourself in the foot; C++ makes it harder, but when you do, it blows away your whole leg

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          • R Rob Manderson

            if you wish, but after 5 or so years of the VC6 interface and half a year of the VS 2003 interface I find the VS 2003 interface has finally won me over :) Anyone else prepared to confess? :) Rob Manderson I'm working on a version for Visual Lisp++

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            HENDRIK R
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            Rob Manderson wrote: Anyone else prepared to confess? Yep! Especially the style makes me dance, compared to that late 90s design VC6 has ... ... but why are sometimes those stylish "animated" toolbars so unwilling to hide themselves again :confused:


            We are men. We are different. We have only one word for soap. We do not own candles. We have never seen anything of any value in a craft shop. We do not own magazines full of photographs of celebrities with their clothes on. - Steve

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            • D Daniel Turini

              2k3 is way better... Due to technical difficulties my previous signature, "I see dumb people" will be off until further notice. Too many people were thinking I was talking about them... :sigh:

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              Haakon S
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              I think the heading should be: Hear! Hear! (Just an attempt from a die-hard VC6'er to annoy a modern geek ) Haakon S. A sure cure for seasickness is to sit under a tree. Spike Milligan

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              • R Rob Manderson

                if you wish, but after 5 or so years of the VC6 interface and half a year of the VS 2003 interface I find the VS 2003 interface has finally won me over :) Anyone else prepared to confess? :) Rob Manderson I'm working on a version for Visual Lisp++

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                Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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                I've been there for a while. :) Anna :rose: Homepage | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work. Trouble with resource IDs? Try the Resource ID Organiser Visual C++ Add-In

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                • A Antony M Kancidrowski

                  Yea to VS 2003. I just love the class view improvements! Every thing is different to VC6 everything seems better!! :-D Ant.

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                  Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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                  The fact that the class view in VC7 actually works is a big improvement in itself. Our product crashes VC6 if you open the ClassView... X| Anna :rose: Homepage | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work. Trouble with resource IDs? Try the Resource ID Organiser Visual C++ Add-In

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                  • R Rob Manderson

                    if you wish, but after 5 or so years of the VC6 interface and half a year of the VS 2003 interface I find the VS 2003 interface has finally won me over :) Anyone else prepared to confess? :) Rob Manderson I'm working on a version for Visual Lisp++

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                    Haakon S
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                    Just yesterday I did the following in VC6: I have a heavily populated dialog in an application, and I wanted a new one in the same application that is similar, but not identical. So i open my RC file in text mode, find the first dialog and do a copy and paste. I change the name slightly, delete the controls I don't need, and there is my new dialog. I have a faint memory that somebody said that this can't be done in VS 2003, because you can't open the RC file in text mode? (Remember, the tar and feather was for VS 2003 users, not poor VC6 dinosaurs). Regards, Haakon S. A sure cure for seasickness is to sit under a tree. Spike Milligan

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                    • R Rob Manderson

                      if you wish, but after 5 or so years of the VC6 interface and half a year of the VS 2003 interface I find the VS 2003 interface has finally won me over :) Anyone else prepared to confess? :) Rob Manderson I'm working on a version for Visual Lisp++

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                      Michael A Barnhart
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                      Rob Manderson wrote: I find the VS 2003 interface To me the interface is not a biggie. (Well from 6 to 7, do not make me go back to writting make files with notepad! and I needed justification to get a bigger monitor :) ) You like what you know and are comfortable with. When VS2003 came out it was different so not comfortable. I forced myself to get comfortable because I wanted some new development features (what ever they were?) :-D I do not mind getting old. It beats all the other options that can think of.

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                      • M Monty2

                        i have never used .NET :eek: but i fail to understand how can CTRL-SHIFT-B to compile is better than F7 C makes it easy to shoot yourself in the foot; C++ makes it harder, but when you do, it blows away your whole leg

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                        The new command isn't better, it's just different. They're lamenting the learning curve when moving to vs.net, and then the un-learning curve when they need to go back and use vc6... ------- sig starts "I've heard some drivers saying, 'We're going too fast here...'. If you're not here to race, go the hell home - don't come here and grumble about going too fast. Why don't you tie a kerosene rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                        • H Haakon S

                          Just yesterday I did the following in VC6: I have a heavily populated dialog in an application, and I wanted a new one in the same application that is similar, but not identical. So i open my RC file in text mode, find the first dialog and do a copy and paste. I change the name slightly, delete the controls I don't need, and there is my new dialog. I have a faint memory that somebody said that this can't be done in VS 2003, because you can't open the RC file in text mode? (Remember, the tar and feather was for VS 2003 users, not poor VC6 dinosaurs). Regards, Haakon S. A sure cure for seasickness is to sit under a tree. Spike Milligan

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                          Why did you copy/paste in the rc file? All you gotta do is Ctrl-C/Ctrl-V in the resource browser. I've fondled VS.net, but I swear, I honestly don't understand why everyone seems to have a hard-on for it... ------- sig starts "I've heard some drivers saying, 'We're going too fast here...'. If you're not here to race, go the hell home - don't come here and grumble about going too fast. Why don't you tie a kerosene rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                          • R Rob Manderson

                            if you wish, but after 5 or so years of the VC6 interface and half a year of the VS 2003 interface I find the VS 2003 interface has finally won me over :) Anyone else prepared to confess? :) Rob Manderson I'm working on a version for Visual Lisp++

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                            yea, it does grow on you after a while. ~Nitron.


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                            • R Rob Manderson

                              if you wish, but after 5 or so years of the VC6 interface and half a year of the VS 2003 interface I find the VS 2003 interface has finally won me over :) Anyone else prepared to confess? :) Rob Manderson I'm working on a version for Visual Lisp++

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                              I like VS.NET's expandable/collapsable code thingy (source outlining? whatever the terminology)...however, since it's not persistent it's useless to me...

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                              • M Michael P Butler

                                It took be a while, but I can't go back to VC6 now. Gone are the days when I hit F7 in VS.NET to compile, forgetting that it is now CTRL-SHIFT-B. Now I hit CTRL-SHIFT-B in VC6 and wonder why my app isn't compiling. VS.NET has some annoying bugs (such as losing tooltips on variables when debugging), but it now feels like home. Michael CP Blog [^]

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                                Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                                Ahem. You can change the keyboard layout to match VC6 you know. :) -- Booohoo!

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                                • H Haakon S

                                  Just yesterday I did the following in VC6: I have a heavily populated dialog in an application, and I wanted a new one in the same application that is similar, but not identical. So i open my RC file in text mode, find the first dialog and do a copy and paste. I change the name slightly, delete the controls I don't need, and there is my new dialog. I have a faint memory that somebody said that this can't be done in VS 2003, because you can't open the RC file in text mode? (Remember, the tar and feather was for VS 2003 users, not poor VC6 dinosaurs). Regards, Haakon S. A sure cure for seasickness is to sit under a tree. Spike Milligan

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                                  Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                                  Haakon S. wrote: I have a faint memory that somebody said that this can't be done in VS 2003, because you can't open the RC file in text mode? Yes you can. File -> Open. Select file. Click on the right handside menu on the open button (It's one of those split buttons where the right part opens a popup menu). Click "open with" and select the appropriate editor in the presented dialog. :) -- Booohoo!

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                                  • realJSOPR realJSOP

                                    Why did you copy/paste in the rc file? All you gotta do is Ctrl-C/Ctrl-V in the resource browser. I've fondled VS.net, but I swear, I honestly don't understand why everyone seems to have a hard-on for it... ------- sig starts "I've heard some drivers saying, 'We're going too fast here...'. If you're not here to race, go the hell home - don't come here and grumble about going too fast. Why don't you tie a kerosene rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                                    Haakon S
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                                    John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: All you gotta do is Ctrl-C/Ctrl-V in the resource browser. Sure you can. But sometimes I find it quicker to work directly in the RC file. But then again, Jørgen says I can do it in VS 2003 as well, so I really had no point. As I suspected. :-O Haakon S. A sure cure for seasickness is to sit under a tree. Spike Milligan

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                                    • M Monty2

                                      i have never used .NET :eek: but i fail to understand how can CTRL-SHIFT-B to compile is better than F7 C makes it easy to shoot yourself in the foot; C++ makes it harder, but when you do, it blows away your whole leg

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                                      Joe Woodbury
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                                      Because "Compile" has a 'C' in it and so does Ctrl-Shift-B (and so does C++!):cool: Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke

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                                      • R Rob Manderson

                                        if you wish, but after 5 or so years of the VC6 interface and half a year of the VS 2003 interface I find the VS 2003 interface has finally won me over :) Anyone else prepared to confess? :) Rob Manderson I'm working on a version for Visual Lisp++

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                                        Joe Woodbury
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                                        I like it and very much prefer it over VS6 despite some original reservations and complaints. Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke

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                                        • realJSOPR realJSOP

                                          Why did you copy/paste in the rc file? All you gotta do is Ctrl-C/Ctrl-V in the resource browser. I've fondled VS.net, but I swear, I honestly don't understand why everyone seems to have a hard-on for it... ------- sig starts "I've heard some drivers saying, 'We're going too fast here...'. If you're not here to race, go the hell home - don't come here and grumble about going too fast. Why don't you tie a kerosene rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                                          John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: I've fondled VS.net That's the problem, John. You've got to complete the act ...


                                          Software Zen: delete this;

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