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  • R Rob Manderson

    if you wish, but after 5 or so years of the VC6 interface and half a year of the VS 2003 interface I find the VS 2003 interface has finally won me over :) Anyone else prepared to confess? :) Rob Manderson I'm working on a version for Visual Lisp++

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    Haakon S
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    Just yesterday I did the following in VC6: I have a heavily populated dialog in an application, and I wanted a new one in the same application that is similar, but not identical. So i open my RC file in text mode, find the first dialog and do a copy and paste. I change the name slightly, delete the controls I don't need, and there is my new dialog. I have a faint memory that somebody said that this can't be done in VS 2003, because you can't open the RC file in text mode? (Remember, the tar and feather was for VS 2003 users, not poor VC6 dinosaurs). Regards, Haakon S. A sure cure for seasickness is to sit under a tree. Spike Milligan

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    • R Rob Manderson

      if you wish, but after 5 or so years of the VC6 interface and half a year of the VS 2003 interface I find the VS 2003 interface has finally won me over :) Anyone else prepared to confess? :) Rob Manderson I'm working on a version for Visual Lisp++

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      Michael A Barnhart
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      Rob Manderson wrote: I find the VS 2003 interface To me the interface is not a biggie. (Well from 6 to 7, do not make me go back to writting make files with notepad! and I needed justification to get a bigger monitor :) ) You like what you know and are comfortable with. When VS2003 came out it was different so not comfortable. I forced myself to get comfortable because I wanted some new development features (what ever they were?) :-D I do not mind getting old. It beats all the other options that can think of.

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      • M Monty2

        i have never used .NET :eek: but i fail to understand how can CTRL-SHIFT-B to compile is better than F7 C makes it easy to shoot yourself in the foot; C++ makes it harder, but when you do, it blows away your whole leg

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        The new command isn't better, it's just different. They're lamenting the learning curve when moving to vs.net, and then the un-learning curve when they need to go back and use vc6... ------- sig starts "I've heard some drivers saying, 'We're going too fast here...'. If you're not here to race, go the hell home - don't come here and grumble about going too fast. Why don't you tie a kerosene rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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        • H Haakon S

          Just yesterday I did the following in VC6: I have a heavily populated dialog in an application, and I wanted a new one in the same application that is similar, but not identical. So i open my RC file in text mode, find the first dialog and do a copy and paste. I change the name slightly, delete the controls I don't need, and there is my new dialog. I have a faint memory that somebody said that this can't be done in VS 2003, because you can't open the RC file in text mode? (Remember, the tar and feather was for VS 2003 users, not poor VC6 dinosaurs). Regards, Haakon S. A sure cure for seasickness is to sit under a tree. Spike Milligan

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          Why did you copy/paste in the rc file? All you gotta do is Ctrl-C/Ctrl-V in the resource browser. I've fondled VS.net, but I swear, I honestly don't understand why everyone seems to have a hard-on for it... ------- sig starts "I've heard some drivers saying, 'We're going too fast here...'. If you're not here to race, go the hell home - don't come here and grumble about going too fast. Why don't you tie a kerosene rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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          • R Rob Manderson

            if you wish, but after 5 or so years of the VC6 interface and half a year of the VS 2003 interface I find the VS 2003 interface has finally won me over :) Anyone else prepared to confess? :) Rob Manderson I'm working on a version for Visual Lisp++

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            Nitron
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            yea, it does grow on you after a while. ~Nitron.


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            • R Rob Manderson

              if you wish, but after 5 or so years of the VC6 interface and half a year of the VS 2003 interface I find the VS 2003 interface has finally won me over :) Anyone else prepared to confess? :) Rob Manderson I'm working on a version for Visual Lisp++

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              dandy72
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              I like VS.NET's expandable/collapsable code thingy (source outlining? whatever the terminology)...however, since it's not persistent it's useless to me...

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              • M Michael P Butler

                It took be a while, but I can't go back to VC6 now. Gone are the days when I hit F7 in VS.NET to compile, forgetting that it is now CTRL-SHIFT-B. Now I hit CTRL-SHIFT-B in VC6 and wonder why my app isn't compiling. VS.NET has some annoying bugs (such as losing tooltips on variables when debugging), but it now feels like home. Michael CP Blog [^]

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                Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                Ahem. You can change the keyboard layout to match VC6 you know. :) -- Booohoo!

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                • H Haakon S

                  Just yesterday I did the following in VC6: I have a heavily populated dialog in an application, and I wanted a new one in the same application that is similar, but not identical. So i open my RC file in text mode, find the first dialog and do a copy and paste. I change the name slightly, delete the controls I don't need, and there is my new dialog. I have a faint memory that somebody said that this can't be done in VS 2003, because you can't open the RC file in text mode? (Remember, the tar and feather was for VS 2003 users, not poor VC6 dinosaurs). Regards, Haakon S. A sure cure for seasickness is to sit under a tree. Spike Milligan

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                  Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                  Haakon S. wrote: I have a faint memory that somebody said that this can't be done in VS 2003, because you can't open the RC file in text mode? Yes you can. File -> Open. Select file. Click on the right handside menu on the open button (It's one of those split buttons where the right part opens a popup menu). Click "open with" and select the appropriate editor in the presented dialog. :) -- Booohoo!

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                  • realJSOPR realJSOP

                    Why did you copy/paste in the rc file? All you gotta do is Ctrl-C/Ctrl-V in the resource browser. I've fondled VS.net, but I swear, I honestly don't understand why everyone seems to have a hard-on for it... ------- sig starts "I've heard some drivers saying, 'We're going too fast here...'. If you're not here to race, go the hell home - don't come here and grumble about going too fast. Why don't you tie a kerosene rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                    Haakon S
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                    John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: All you gotta do is Ctrl-C/Ctrl-V in the resource browser. Sure you can. But sometimes I find it quicker to work directly in the RC file. But then again, Jørgen says I can do it in VS 2003 as well, so I really had no point. As I suspected. :-O Haakon S. A sure cure for seasickness is to sit under a tree. Spike Milligan

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                    • M Monty2

                      i have never used .NET :eek: but i fail to understand how can CTRL-SHIFT-B to compile is better than F7 C makes it easy to shoot yourself in the foot; C++ makes it harder, but when you do, it blows away your whole leg

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                      Joe Woodbury
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                      Because "Compile" has a 'C' in it and so does Ctrl-Shift-B (and so does C++!):cool: Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke

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                      • R Rob Manderson

                        if you wish, but after 5 or so years of the VC6 interface and half a year of the VS 2003 interface I find the VS 2003 interface has finally won me over :) Anyone else prepared to confess? :) Rob Manderson I'm working on a version for Visual Lisp++

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                        Joe Woodbury
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                        I like it and very much prefer it over VS6 despite some original reservations and complaints. Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke

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                        • realJSOPR realJSOP

                          Why did you copy/paste in the rc file? All you gotta do is Ctrl-C/Ctrl-V in the resource browser. I've fondled VS.net, but I swear, I honestly don't understand why everyone seems to have a hard-on for it... ------- sig starts "I've heard some drivers saying, 'We're going too fast here...'. If you're not here to race, go the hell home - don't come here and grumble about going too fast. Why don't you tie a kerosene rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                          John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: I've fondled VS.net That's the problem, John. You've got to complete the act ...


                          Software Zen: delete this;

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                          • R Rob Manderson

                            if you wish, but after 5 or so years of the VC6 interface and half a year of the VS 2003 interface I find the VS 2003 interface has finally won me over :) Anyone else prepared to confess? :) Rob Manderson I'm working on a version for Visual Lisp++

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                            Rocky Moore
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                            Rob Manderson wrote: half a year of the VS 2003 interface I find the VS 2003 interface has finally won me over Sorry to hear it took so long ;) Once I got over the inital shock of my class wizard being removed, I began to notice features I liked. After working with InterDev (I think that is what is was called in those old days a few years ago), I was used to combinable tool windows. Once I spent a few hours combining all those tool windows into a couple bars that float away, I was hooked. Never looked back :) Technically it was VS 2002 that I started with though :) The biggest complaint I have now is the speed. I ran into that when duplicating a printed insurance form in aspx that had 100+ controls (they wanted only one page full of controls) . That was really painful! It still has a number of bugs and does not feel as stable as my old VC6, but that is expected with the vast changes. Rocky <>< www.HintsAndTips.com www.GotTheAnswerToSpam.com

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