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  • M Mike Gaskey

    Yep[^] Mike "liberals are being driven crazy by the fact that Bush is so popular with Americans, and thus by the realization that anyone to the left of center is utterly marginal." JAMES TRAUB NY Times Loyal member of the vast right wing conspiracy Me "Kerry is a girl's name." Conan O'Brian "I've spoken to many world leaders - they all look at me and say, you've got to win. I just can't tell you who they are." J.F.Kerry

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    Sounds like if prisoners at Abu Ghraib fart at the same time will cause much more severe damage than this thing they found. Can't the Iraqis produce anything more powerful? ;P

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      Mission Accomplished! ... well, except that we need to find the other 29,969 shells Bush said were out there. Cleek | Jewelry | ClickPic | ThumbNailer

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      Chris Losinger wrote: well, except that we need to find the other 29,969 shells Bush said were out there. And, we well may find those. What is interesting is that this shell was fired, but not in the correct manner to activate the Sarin properly. That would indicate that they didn't know what they had their hands on, it was detonated like an improvised bomb. That would also indicate that the shell was grabbed from a yet to be found stockpile, not just a single stand alone device. Mike "liberals are being driven crazy by the fact that Bush is so popular with Americans, and thus by the realization that anyone to the left of center is utterly marginal." JAMES TRAUB NY Times Loyal member of the vast right wing conspiracy Me "Kerry is a girl's name." Conan O'Brian "I've spoken to many world leaders - they all look at me and say, you've got to win. I just can't tell you who they are." J.F.Kerry

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        Sounds like if prisoners at Abu Ghraib fart at the same time will cause much more severe damage than this thing they found. Can't the Iraqis produce anything more powerful? ;P

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        Anonymous wrote: Can't the Iraqis produce anything more powerful? If it had been detonated properly, it could have cause a significant number of deaths. Check with the Japanese, subways and SArin. Mike "liberals are being driven crazy by the fact that Bush is so popular with Americans, and thus by the realization that anyone to the left of center is utterly marginal." JAMES TRAUB NY Times Loyal member of the vast right wing conspiracy Me "Kerry is a girl's name." Conan O'Brian "I've spoken to many world leaders - they all look at me and say, you've got to win. I just can't tell you who they are." J.F.Kerry

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          Yep[^] Mike "liberals are being driven crazy by the fact that Bush is so popular with Americans, and thus by the realization that anyone to the left of center is utterly marginal." JAMES TRAUB NY Times Loyal member of the vast right wing conspiracy Me "Kerry is a girl's name." Conan O'Brian "I've spoken to many world leaders - they all look at me and say, you've got to win. I just can't tell you who they are." J.F.Kerry

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          Not really: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3722255.stm[^] However, a senior coalition source has told the BBC the round does not signal the discovery of weapons of mass destruction or the escalation of insurgent activity. He said the round dated back to the Iran-Iraq war and coalition officials were not sure whether the fighters even knew what it contained.


          Ian Darling "A girl can't be perfect all of the time." - Anna-Jayne Metcalfe

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            Anonymous wrote: Can't the Iraqis produce anything more powerful? If it had been detonated properly, it could have cause a significant number of deaths. Check with the Japanese, subways and SArin. Mike "liberals are being driven crazy by the fact that Bush is so popular with Americans, and thus by the realization that anyone to the left of center is utterly marginal." JAMES TRAUB NY Times Loyal member of the vast right wing conspiracy Me "Kerry is a girl's name." Conan O'Brian "I've spoken to many world leaders - they all look at me and say, you've got to win. I just can't tell you who they are." J.F.Kerry

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            Mike Gaskey wrote: If it had been detonated properly, it could have cause a significant number of deaths. Check with the Japanese, subways and SArin. I think it mainly depends on who is manufacturing the stuff. If the Iraqis ever made their own vehicle, I would not bet it against a Toyota or any other Japanese car, even if a first-class race car driver is behind the wheel. The whole WMD issue is a joke. But suicide bombers, that is something you have to be afraid of.

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              Surely you haven't forgoten, Chris? 'Mission Accomplished' was claimed on the infamous carrier speech already. :rolleyes: BW The Biggest Loser


              "And then one day you find ten years have got behind you
              No one told you when to run, you missed the starting gun"

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                Chris Losinger wrote: well, except that we need to find the other 29,969 shells Bush said were out there. And, we well may find those. What is interesting is that this shell was fired, but not in the correct manner to activate the Sarin properly. That would indicate that they didn't know what they had their hands on, it was detonated like an improvised bomb. That would also indicate that the shell was grabbed from a yet to be found stockpile, not just a single stand alone device. Mike "liberals are being driven crazy by the fact that Bush is so popular with Americans, and thus by the realization that anyone to the left of center is utterly marginal." JAMES TRAUB NY Times Loyal member of the vast right wing conspiracy Me "Kerry is a girl's name." Conan O'Brian "I've spoken to many world leaders - they all look at me and say, you've got to win. I just can't tell you who they are." J.F.Kerry

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                Mike Gaskey wrote: That would also indicate that the shell was grabbed from a yet to be found stockpile, not just a single stand alone device. actually, it wouldn't. it could've been the only one left in some dark corner in the back of a warehouse. Cleek | Jewelry | ClickPic | ThumbNailer

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                • M Mike Gaskey

                  Yep[^] Mike "liberals are being driven crazy by the fact that Bush is so popular with Americans, and thus by the realization that anyone to the left of center is utterly marginal." JAMES TRAUB NY Times Loyal member of the vast right wing conspiracy Me "Kerry is a girl's name." Conan O'Brian "I've spoken to many world leaders - they all look at me and say, you've got to win. I just can't tell you who they are." J.F.Kerry

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                  mystro_AKA_kokie
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                  You really want to run away with that pubic hair of a waepon, don't you? Relax, if Saddam had weapons he would've used them.Sooner or later hair sprays are going to become WMDs. I am sitting in my flame proof buncker, so don't even bother.

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                    Not really: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3722255.stm[^] However, a senior coalition source has told the BBC the round does not signal the discovery of weapons of mass destruction or the escalation of insurgent activity. He said the round dated back to the Iran-Iraq war and coalition officials were not sure whether the fighters even knew what it contained.


                    Ian Darling "A girl can't be perfect all of the time." - Anna-Jayne Metcalfe

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                    Good link, he always refers people to that stupid FOXNEWS site. I am sitting in my flame proof buncker, so don't even bother.

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                      Not really: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3722255.stm[^] However, a senior coalition source has told the BBC the round does not signal the discovery of weapons of mass destruction or the escalation of insurgent activity. He said the round dated back to the Iran-Iraq war and coalition officials were not sure whether the fighters even knew what it contained.


                      Ian Darling "A girl can't be perfect all of the time." - Anna-Jayne Metcalfe

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                      Ian Darling wrote: a senior coalition source has told the BBC the round does not signal the discovery of weapons of mass destruction or the escalation of insurgent activity. sure. Mike "liberals are being driven crazy by the fact that Bush is so popular with Americans, and thus by the realization that anyone to the left of center is utterly marginal." JAMES TRAUB NY Times Loyal member of the vast right wing conspiracy Me "Kerry is a girl's name." Conan O'Brian "I've spoken to many world leaders - they all look at me and say, you've got to win. I just can't tell you who they are." J.F.Kerry

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                        Yep[^] Mike "liberals are being driven crazy by the fact that Bush is so popular with Americans, and thus by the realization that anyone to the left of center is utterly marginal." JAMES TRAUB NY Times Loyal member of the vast right wing conspiracy Me "Kerry is a girl's name." Conan O'Brian "I've spoken to many world leaders - they all look at me and say, you've got to win. I just can't tell you who they are." J.F.Kerry

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                        Cruise Missiles have mass-destroyed substantially more stuff in Iraq than a single grenade of dubuious origin causing "very small dispersal of agent."


                        we are here to help each other get through this thing, whatever it is Vonnegut jr.
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                          Sounds like if prisoners at Abu Ghraib fart at the same time will cause much more severe damage than this thing they found. Can't the Iraqis produce anything more powerful? ;P

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                          C'mon, get a name, talk like a real (wo)man.


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                            You really want to run away with that pubic hair of a waepon, don't you? Relax, if Saddam had weapons he would've used them.Sooner or later hair sprays are going to become WMDs. I am sitting in my flame proof buncker, so don't even bother.

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                            Weekend pass still active, huh? Mike "liberals are being driven crazy by the fact that Bush is so popular with Americans, and thus by the realization that anyone to the left of center is utterly marginal." JAMES TRAUB NY Times Loyal member of the vast right wing conspiracy Me "Kerry is a girl's name." Conan O'Brian "I've spoken to many world leaders - they all look at me and say, you've got to win. I just can't tell you who they are." J.F.Kerry

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                              Weekend pass still active, huh? Mike "liberals are being driven crazy by the fact that Bush is so popular with Americans, and thus by the realization that anyone to the left of center is utterly marginal." JAMES TRAUB NY Times Loyal member of the vast right wing conspiracy Me "Kerry is a girl's name." Conan O'Brian "I've spoken to many world leaders - they all look at me and say, you've got to win. I just can't tell you who they are." J.F.Kerry

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                              mystro_AKA_kokie
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                              Mike Gaskey wrote: Weekend pass still active, huh? what does that mean anyway? I am sitting in my flame proof buncker, so don't even bother.

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                                C'mon, get a name, talk like a real (wo)man.


                                we are here to help each other get through this thing, whatever it is Vonnegut jr.
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                                peterchen wrote: C'mon, get a name, talk like a real (wo)man. Do you have anything agaisnt transsexual, Mr. Chen? ;P

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                                  peterchen wrote: C'mon, get a name, talk like a real (wo)man. Do you have anything agaisnt transsexual, Mr. Chen? ;P

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                                  Anonymous wrote: Do you have anything agaisnt transsexual, (soapbox check) Yes, Elaine's knife collection can wortk wonders here and there. Seriously, if you're not sure about yourself, fine. If you're not sure about me, weird. but get a name. I mean it.


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                                    Ian Darling wrote: a senior coalition source has told the BBC the round does not signal the discovery of weapons of mass destruction or the escalation of insurgent activity. sure. Mike "liberals are being driven crazy by the fact that Bush is so popular with Americans, and thus by the realization that anyone to the left of center is utterly marginal." JAMES TRAUB NY Times Loyal member of the vast right wing conspiracy Me "Kerry is a girl's name." Conan O'Brian "I've spoken to many world leaders - they all look at me and say, you've got to win. I just can't tell you who they are." J.F.Kerry

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                                    Mike Gaskey wrote: sure. Hey, it's not my fault you overemphasised the significance of the Fox report, and that the words of someone in the Coalition undermined your own argument.


                                    Ian Darling "A girl can't be perfect all of the time." - Anna-Jayne Metcalfe

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                                      Sounds like if prisoners at Abu Ghraib fart at the same time will cause much more severe damage than this thing they found. Can't the Iraqis produce anything more powerful? ;P

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                                      Anonymous wrote: if prisoners at Abu Ghraib fart at the same time will cause much more severe damage :laugh: now that was funny ! There are no failures.. only extended learning opportunities.

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                                        Mike Gaskey wrote: sure. Hey, it's not my fault you overemphasised the significance of the Fox report, and that the words of someone in the Coalition undermined your own argument.


                                        Ian Darling "A girl can't be perfect all of the time." - Anna-Jayne Metcalfe

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                                        The reply "sure" was meant to just blow you off, figuring that we're on opposite sides of the issue and nothing either said would sway the other. The point is, if the shell had been detonated properly it could have dome tremenduous damage, if you consider killing US and British troops a bad thing. A second point is that this obviously isn't the only such shell in Iraq, I'm fairily certain that Saddam would not have created one and only one such shell. The significance of the Fox report is that the news was reported. CNN hadn't bothered, MSNBC hadn't, the NYT would bury it, BBC apparently did. Mike "liberals are being driven crazy by the fact that Bush is so popular with Americans, and thus by the realization that anyone to the left of center is utterly marginal." JAMES TRAUB NY Times Loyal member of the vast right wing conspiracy Me "Kerry is a girl's name." Conan O'Brian "I've spoken to many world leaders - they all look at me and say, you've got to win. I just can't tell you who they are." J.F.Kerry

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                                          Weekend pass still active, huh? Mike "liberals are being driven crazy by the fact that Bush is so popular with Americans, and thus by the realization that anyone to the left of center is utterly marginal." JAMES TRAUB NY Times Loyal member of the vast right wing conspiracy Me "Kerry is a girl's name." Conan O'Brian "I've spoken to many world leaders - they all look at me and say, you've got to win. I just can't tell you who they are." J.F.Kerry

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                                          You're so funny sometimes. :~ -- Booohoo!

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