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  • M Mike Gaskey

    Yep[^] Mike "liberals are being driven crazy by the fact that Bush is so popular with Americans, and thus by the realization that anyone to the left of center is utterly marginal." JAMES TRAUB NY Times Loyal member of the vast right wing conspiracy Me "Kerry is a girl's name." Conan O'Brian "I've spoken to many world leaders - they all look at me and say, you've got to win. I just can't tell you who they are." J.F.Kerry

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    peterchen
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    Cruise Missiles have mass-destroyed substantially more stuff in Iraq than a single grenade of dubuious origin causing "very small dispersal of agent."


    we are here to help each other get through this thing, whatever it is Vonnegut jr.
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      Sounds like if prisoners at Abu Ghraib fart at the same time will cause much more severe damage than this thing they found. Can't the Iraqis produce anything more powerful? ;P

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      peterchen
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      C'mon, get a name, talk like a real (wo)man.


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      • M mystro_AKA_kokie

        You really want to run away with that pubic hair of a waepon, don't you? Relax, if Saddam had weapons he would've used them.Sooner or later hair sprays are going to become WMDs. I am sitting in my flame proof buncker, so don't even bother.

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        Mike Gaskey
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        Weekend pass still active, huh? Mike "liberals are being driven crazy by the fact that Bush is so popular with Americans, and thus by the realization that anyone to the left of center is utterly marginal." JAMES TRAUB NY Times Loyal member of the vast right wing conspiracy Me "Kerry is a girl's name." Conan O'Brian "I've spoken to many world leaders - they all look at me and say, you've got to win. I just can't tell you who they are." J.F.Kerry

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        • M Mike Gaskey

          Weekend pass still active, huh? Mike "liberals are being driven crazy by the fact that Bush is so popular with Americans, and thus by the realization that anyone to the left of center is utterly marginal." JAMES TRAUB NY Times Loyal member of the vast right wing conspiracy Me "Kerry is a girl's name." Conan O'Brian "I've spoken to many world leaders - they all look at me and say, you've got to win. I just can't tell you who they are." J.F.Kerry

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          mystro_AKA_kokie
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          Mike Gaskey wrote: Weekend pass still active, huh? what does that mean anyway? I am sitting in my flame proof buncker, so don't even bother.

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          • P peterchen

            C'mon, get a name, talk like a real (wo)man.


            we are here to help each other get through this thing, whatever it is Vonnegut jr.
            mlog || Agile Programming | doxygen

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            Anonymous
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            peterchen wrote: C'mon, get a name, talk like a real (wo)man. Do you have anything agaisnt transsexual, Mr. Chen? ;P

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              peterchen wrote: C'mon, get a name, talk like a real (wo)man. Do you have anything agaisnt transsexual, Mr. Chen? ;P

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              peterchen
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              Anonymous wrote: Do you have anything agaisnt transsexual, (soapbox check) Yes, Elaine's knife collection can wortk wonders here and there. Seriously, if you're not sure about yourself, fine. If you're not sure about me, weird. but get a name. I mean it.


              we are here to help each other get through this thing, whatever it is Vonnegut jr.
              mlog || Agile Programming | doxygen

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              • M Mike Gaskey

                Ian Darling wrote: a senior coalition source has told the BBC the round does not signal the discovery of weapons of mass destruction or the escalation of insurgent activity. sure. Mike "liberals are being driven crazy by the fact that Bush is so popular with Americans, and thus by the realization that anyone to the left of center is utterly marginal." JAMES TRAUB NY Times Loyal member of the vast right wing conspiracy Me "Kerry is a girl's name." Conan O'Brian "I've spoken to many world leaders - they all look at me and say, you've got to win. I just can't tell you who they are." J.F.Kerry

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                Ian Darling
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                Mike Gaskey wrote: sure. Hey, it's not my fault you overemphasised the significance of the Fox report, and that the words of someone in the Coalition undermined your own argument.


                Ian Darling "A girl can't be perfect all of the time." - Anna-Jayne Metcalfe

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                  Sounds like if prisoners at Abu Ghraib fart at the same time will cause much more severe damage than this thing they found. Can't the Iraqis produce anything more powerful? ;P

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                  retZ
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                  Anonymous wrote: if prisoners at Abu Ghraib fart at the same time will cause much more severe damage :laugh: now that was funny ! There are no failures.. only extended learning opportunities.

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                  • I Ian Darling

                    Mike Gaskey wrote: sure. Hey, it's not my fault you overemphasised the significance of the Fox report, and that the words of someone in the Coalition undermined your own argument.


                    Ian Darling "A girl can't be perfect all of the time." - Anna-Jayne Metcalfe

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                    Mike Gaskey
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                    The reply "sure" was meant to just blow you off, figuring that we're on opposite sides of the issue and nothing either said would sway the other. The point is, if the shell had been detonated properly it could have dome tremenduous damage, if you consider killing US and British troops a bad thing. A second point is that this obviously isn't the only such shell in Iraq, I'm fairily certain that Saddam would not have created one and only one such shell. The significance of the Fox report is that the news was reported. CNN hadn't bothered, MSNBC hadn't, the NYT would bury it, BBC apparently did. Mike "liberals are being driven crazy by the fact that Bush is so popular with Americans, and thus by the realization that anyone to the left of center is utterly marginal." JAMES TRAUB NY Times Loyal member of the vast right wing conspiracy Me "Kerry is a girl's name." Conan O'Brian "I've spoken to many world leaders - they all look at me and say, you've got to win. I just can't tell you who they are." J.F.Kerry

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                    • M Mike Gaskey

                      Weekend pass still active, huh? Mike "liberals are being driven crazy by the fact that Bush is so popular with Americans, and thus by the realization that anyone to the left of center is utterly marginal." JAMES TRAUB NY Times Loyal member of the vast right wing conspiracy Me "Kerry is a girl's name." Conan O'Brian "I've spoken to many world leaders - they all look at me and say, you've got to win. I just can't tell you who they are." J.F.Kerry

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                      Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                      You're so funny sometimes. :~ -- Booohoo!

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                      • M Mike Gaskey

                        The reply "sure" was meant to just blow you off, figuring that we're on opposite sides of the issue and nothing either said would sway the other. The point is, if the shell had been detonated properly it could have dome tremenduous damage, if you consider killing US and British troops a bad thing. A second point is that this obviously isn't the only such shell in Iraq, I'm fairily certain that Saddam would not have created one and only one such shell. The significance of the Fox report is that the news was reported. CNN hadn't bothered, MSNBC hadn't, the NYT would bury it, BBC apparently did. Mike "liberals are being driven crazy by the fact that Bush is so popular with Americans, and thus by the realization that anyone to the left of center is utterly marginal." JAMES TRAUB NY Times Loyal member of the vast right wing conspiracy Me "Kerry is a girl's name." Conan O'Brian "I've spoken to many world leaders - they all look at me and say, you've got to win. I just can't tell you who they are." J.F.Kerry

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                        Chris Losinger
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                        Mike Gaskey wrote: I'm fairily certain that Saddam would not have created one and only one such shell. we already know he made and used many such shells - in the 80/90s. that's not disputed by anyone. and at the time, it wasn't even considered noteworthy. the issue is ... did he have them in 2003 ? and now the answer is "yes, he apparently had at least one". but did he have the 30,000 that Bush talked about? because there's no victory in finding one shell. there are certainly better ways to spend $200B and 800 lives than in a hunt for one 20 year old artillery shell. did he have the stockpiles? there is no "obvious" answer there. but the fact that the US has had ownership of the entire country for over a year now and hasn't found any does suggest an answer. Mike Gaskey wrote: CNN hadn't bothered, MSNBC hadn't, it's on both of their front pages right now. Cleek | Jewelry | ClickPic | ThumbNailer

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                          Mike Gaskey wrote: I'm fairily certain that Saddam would not have created one and only one such shell. we already know he made and used many such shells - in the 80/90s. that's not disputed by anyone. and at the time, it wasn't even considered noteworthy. the issue is ... did he have them in 2003 ? and now the answer is "yes, he apparently had at least one". but did he have the 30,000 that Bush talked about? because there's no victory in finding one shell. there are certainly better ways to spend $200B and 800 lives than in a hunt for one 20 year old artillery shell. did he have the stockpiles? there is no "obvious" answer there. but the fact that the US has had ownership of the entire country for over a year now and hasn't found any does suggest an answer. Mike Gaskey wrote: CNN hadn't bothered, MSNBC hadn't, it's on both of their front pages right now. Cleek | Jewelry | ClickPic | ThumbNailer

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                          Chris Losinger wrote: because there's no victory in finding one shell of course not. but I doubt there's only one. Chris Losinger wrote: US has had ownership of the entire country for over a year now and hasn't found any does suggest an answer. and that answer is not, "Saddam destroyed all the shells, except this one". Chris Losinger wrote: it's on both of their front pages right now. But would they if Fox hadn't, or, would we see a page 30 NYT article next Sunday? Mike "liberals are being driven crazy by the fact that Bush is so popular with Americans, and thus by the realization that anyone to the left of center is utterly marginal." JAMES TRAUB NY Times Loyal member of the vast right wing conspiracy Me "Kerry is a girl's name." Conan O'Brian "I've spoken to many world leaders - they all look at me and say, you've got to win. I just can't tell you who they are." J.F.Kerry

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                            Chris Losinger wrote: because there's no victory in finding one shell of course not. but I doubt there's only one. Chris Losinger wrote: US has had ownership of the entire country for over a year now and hasn't found any does suggest an answer. and that answer is not, "Saddam destroyed all the shells, except this one". Chris Losinger wrote: it's on both of their front pages right now. But would they if Fox hadn't, or, would we see a page 30 NYT article next Sunday? Mike "liberals are being driven crazy by the fact that Bush is so popular with Americans, and thus by the realization that anyone to the left of center is utterly marginal." JAMES TRAUB NY Times Loyal member of the vast right wing conspiracy Me "Kerry is a girl's name." Conan O'Brian "I've spoken to many world leaders - they all look at me and say, you've got to win. I just can't tell you who they are." J.F.Kerry

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                            Mike Gaskey wrote: and that answer is not, "Saddam destroyed all the shells, except this one". ok. that sounds pretty conclusive. so, show me the other 29,967 . Cleek | Jewelry | ClickPic | ThumbNailer

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                              Mike Gaskey wrote: I'm fairily certain that Saddam would not have created one and only one such shell. we already know he made and used many such shells - in the 80/90s. that's not disputed by anyone. and at the time, it wasn't even considered noteworthy. the issue is ... did he have them in 2003 ? and now the answer is "yes, he apparently had at least one". but did he have the 30,000 that Bush talked about? because there's no victory in finding one shell. there are certainly better ways to spend $200B and 800 lives than in a hunt for one 20 year old artillery shell. did he have the stockpiles? there is no "obvious" answer there. but the fact that the US has had ownership of the entire country for over a year now and hasn't found any does suggest an answer. Mike Gaskey wrote: CNN hadn't bothered, MSNBC hadn't, it's on both of their front pages right now. Cleek | Jewelry | ClickPic | ThumbNailer

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                              Chris Losinger wrote: but did he have the 30,000 that Bush talked about If the coalition were to find only 29,999 you would still be complainigng about it saying you had been misled....:rolleyes: Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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                                Chris Losinger wrote: but did he have the 30,000 that Bush talked about If the coalition were to find only 29,999 you would still be complainigng about it saying you had been misled....:rolleyes: Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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                                hey Doug, on the count of three, tell me what i'm thinking:

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                                (or can you only read minds in the future... :) ) Cleek | Jewelry | ClickPic | ThumbNailer

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                                  Mike Gaskey wrote: and that answer is not, "Saddam destroyed all the shells, except this one". ok. that sounds pretty conclusive. so, show me the other 29,967 . Cleek | Jewelry | ClickPic | ThumbNailer

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                                  Mike Gaskey
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                                  Chris Losinger wrote: ok. that sounds pretty conclusive. so I hate to bring this up, but it is called, "logic". Mike "liberals are being driven crazy by the fact that Bush is so popular with Americans, and thus by the realization that anyone to the left of center is utterly marginal." JAMES TRAUB NY Times Loyal member of the vast right wing conspiracy Me "Kerry is a girl's name." Conan O'Brian "I've spoken to many world leaders - they all look at me and say, you've got to win. I just can't tell you who they are." J.F.Kerry

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                                    Chris Losinger wrote: ok. that sounds pretty conclusive. so I hate to bring this up, but it is called, "logic". Mike "liberals are being driven crazy by the fact that Bush is so popular with Americans, and thus by the realization that anyone to the left of center is utterly marginal." JAMES TRAUB NY Times Loyal member of the vast right wing conspiracy Me "Kerry is a girl's name." Conan O'Brian "I've spoken to many world leaders - they all look at me and say, you've got to win. I just can't tell you who they are." J.F.Kerry

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                                    show me the logical proof. show me how we must logically conclude that this shell is one of many. Cleek | Jewelry | ClickPic | ThumbNailer

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                                    • P peterchen

                                      Anonymous wrote: Do you have anything agaisnt transsexual, (soapbox check) Yes, Elaine's knife collection can wortk wonders here and there. Seriously, if you're not sure about yourself, fine. If you're not sure about me, weird. but get a name. I mean it.


                                      we are here to help each other get through this thing, whatever it is Vonnegut jr.
                                      mlog || Agile Programming | doxygen

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                                      peterchen wrote: weird. but get a name. I mean it. The more weird thing is you getting upset about me posting anonymously. Why? Umm, no, don't tell me, tell it to your psychiatrist.

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                                        hey Doug, on the count of three, tell me what i'm thinking:

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                                        Jeremy Kimball
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                                        [count-voice:on] "Three! Three Sarin shells! *thunder booms*Ah-ah-ah-ah-ah!" [count-voice:off] sorry, couldn't resist :)


                                        Jeremy Kimball Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam. (I have a catapult. Give me all the money, or I will fling an enormous rock at your head)

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                                          peterchen wrote: weird. but get a name. I mean it. The more weird thing is you getting upset about me posting anonymously. Why? Umm, no, don't tell me, tell it to your psychiatrist.

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                                          peterchen
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                                          Maybe you are my psy in disguise? I get upset by people that have a challenging opinion but don't want to stand by what they say. Noone expects yu to use your real name. So what do you have to loose?


                                          we are here to help each other get through this thing, whatever it is Vonnegut jr.
                                          mlog || Agile Programming | doxygen

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