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Wow, this is such a cool site, but I get very very long response times. I can see that others have had the same problems, but apparently solved them somehow. I am on a 100 Mbit line to the internet (downloading with 5 MB/sec from www.microsoft.com, nice!). Are there anything I can to? I tried both Firefox and IE and both are slow. Most of the time it takes approx. 30-60 seconds for each page. Borders on unusable. :( best regards Søren Thulesen
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Wow, this is such a cool site, but I get very very long response times. I can see that others have had the same problems, but apparently solved them somehow. I am on a 100 Mbit line to the internet (downloading with 5 MB/sec from www.microsoft.com, nice!). Are there anything I can to? I tried both Firefox and IE and both are slow. Most of the time it takes approx. 30-60 seconds for each page. Borders on unusable. :( best regards Søren Thulesen
Indeed. Anyone at CP considered Linux as alternative. It's obvious that ASP can't handle large site like this one. :-D Tomaz
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Wow, this is such a cool site, but I get very very long response times. I can see that others have had the same problems, but apparently solved them somehow. I am on a 100 Mbit line to the internet (downloading with 5 MB/sec from www.microsoft.com, nice!). Are there anything I can to? I tried both Firefox and IE and both are slow. Most of the time it takes approx. 30-60 seconds for each page. Borders on unusable. :( best regards Søren Thulesen
jubilex wrote: Wow, this is such a cool site Thanks! It's nice to hear that and with the litany of perf troubles we've had there's been a real shortage of good vibe. jubilex wrote: can see that others have had the same problems, but apparently solved them somehow Well, they haven't really. The troubles are continuing. Here's a couple of things you can try: The site works reasonably well before 6am EST and after 3pm EST, until we get our problems ironed out, you will be happier if you visit us outside of these times. Also, we've made each of our web servers individually addressable. rather than hitting www.codeproject.com, you might try web1.codeproject.com through web6.codeproject.com. It's hard to explain but the load is not being evenly split between servers, and so some of the servers are overloaded at times, and others have lots of capacity. We have a number of things underway to improve CodeProject's performance, including new hardware, a caged hosting space (I think we're at something like 14 servers and have exhausted the realestate on our rack), and some optimization of site's code where we can eek out improvements. Many thanks for your patience. We're working hard on the perf problems and we should all see some progress very soon. David
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Indeed. Anyone at CP considered Linux as alternative. It's obvious that ASP can't handle large site like this one. :-D Tomaz
Tomaž Štih wrote: Anyone at CP considered Linux as alternative. It's obvious that ASP can't handle large site like this one Comparing Linux and ASP is like comparing Apples and oranges. Apples and Oranges may both be fruit just as Linux and ASP are software but they are built to acomplish different things. Anyway, as you should know, CP are in the process of rewriting the site to use ASP.NET.
"If a man empties his purse into his head, no man can take it away from him, for an investment in knowledge pays the best interest." -- Joseph E. O'Donnell Can't manage to P/Invoke that Win32 API in .NET? Why not do interop the wiki way!
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jubilex wrote: Wow, this is such a cool site Thanks! It's nice to hear that and with the litany of perf troubles we've had there's been a real shortage of good vibe. jubilex wrote: can see that others have had the same problems, but apparently solved them somehow Well, they haven't really. The troubles are continuing. Here's a couple of things you can try: The site works reasonably well before 6am EST and after 3pm EST, until we get our problems ironed out, you will be happier if you visit us outside of these times. Also, we've made each of our web servers individually addressable. rather than hitting www.codeproject.com, you might try web1.codeproject.com through web6.codeproject.com. It's hard to explain but the load is not being evenly split between servers, and so some of the servers are overloaded at times, and others have lots of capacity. We have a number of things underway to improve CodeProject's performance, including new hardware, a caged hosting space (I think we're at something like 14 servers and have exhausted the realestate on our rack), and some optimization of site's code where we can eek out improvements. Many thanks for your patience. We're working hard on the perf problems and we should all see some progress very soon. David
David Cunningham wrote: Also, we've made each of our web servers individually addressable. rather than hitting www.codeproject.com, you might try web1.codeproject.com through web6.codeproject.com. There's one problem with this approach. Last time I checked, after posting a reply to a message the ASP script redirects back to the message (assumingly so that refreshing doesn't re-post the reply or result in error) using an absolute URL with scheme and host information included as http://www.codeproject.com. If this was fixed, using a particular server would work as expected.
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jubilex wrote: Wow, this is such a cool site Thanks! It's nice to hear that and with the litany of perf troubles we've had there's been a real shortage of good vibe. jubilex wrote: can see that others have had the same problems, but apparently solved them somehow Well, they haven't really. The troubles are continuing. Here's a couple of things you can try: The site works reasonably well before 6am EST and after 3pm EST, until we get our problems ironed out, you will be happier if you visit us outside of these times. Also, we've made each of our web servers individually addressable. rather than hitting www.codeproject.com, you might try web1.codeproject.com through web6.codeproject.com. It's hard to explain but the load is not being evenly split between servers, and so some of the servers are overloaded at times, and others have lots of capacity. We have a number of things underway to improve CodeProject's performance, including new hardware, a caged hosting space (I think we're at something like 14 servers and have exhausted the realestate on our rack), and some optimization of site's code where we can eek out improvements. Many thanks for your patience. We're working hard on the perf problems and we should all see some progress very soon. David
You might want to suggest that people pick some way to generate a random starting server, or web1 is always going to be hammered. I'm not sure what your router configuration is like, but depending on the configuration, using an alternate URL like switching between thecodeproject and codeproject might have the same effect while allowing the router to choose a random or least loaded server again, depending on the router abilities and configuration.
I can imagine the sinking feeling one would have after ordering my book, only to find a laughably ridiculous theory with demented logic once the book arrives - Mark McCutcheon
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Indeed. Anyone at CP considered Linux as alternative. It's obvious that ASP can't handle large site like this one. :-D Tomaz
Tomaž Štih wrote: Anyone at CP considered Linux as alternative Not actually being on the CP staff I can't say for sure, but I'm pretty sure the answer is no. More over switching to linux wouldn't even help because linux doesn't create bandwidth. Tomaž Štih wrote: It's obvious that ASP can't handle large site like this one. You think PHP could handle it better? I don't think so. Matt Newman
What is your malfunction? - Dangeresque, too?
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Tomaž Štih wrote: Anyone at CP considered Linux as alternative. It's obvious that ASP can't handle large site like this one Comparing Linux and ASP is like comparing Apples and oranges. Apples and Oranges may both be fruit just as Linux and ASP are software but they are built to acomplish different things. Anyway, as you should know, CP are in the process of rewriting the site to use ASP.NET.
"If a man empties his purse into his head, no man can take it away from him, for an investment in knowledge pays the best interest." -- Joseph E. O'Donnell Can't manage to P/Invoke that Win32 API in .NET? Why not do interop the wiki way!
Colin Angus Mackay wrote: Comparing Linux and ASP is like comparing Apples and oranges. Apples and Oranges may both be software just as Linux and ASP are software but they are built to acomlish different things. You do realise that Tomaz was taking the piss with his reply about Linux to the original poster? Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So i had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004
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Indeed. Anyone at CP considered Linux as alternative. It's obvious that ASP can't handle large site like this one. :-D Tomaz
Anyone at CP considered Linux as alternative. It's obvious that ASP can't handle large site like this one Good one!!!;P
I can imagine the sinking feeling one would have after ordering my book, only to find a laughably ridiculous theory with demented logic once the book arrives - Mark McCutcheon
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jubilex wrote: Wow, this is such a cool site Thanks! It's nice to hear that and with the litany of perf troubles we've had there's been a real shortage of good vibe. jubilex wrote: can see that others have had the same problems, but apparently solved them somehow Well, they haven't really. The troubles are continuing. Here's a couple of things you can try: The site works reasonably well before 6am EST and after 3pm EST, until we get our problems ironed out, you will be happier if you visit us outside of these times. Also, we've made each of our web servers individually addressable. rather than hitting www.codeproject.com, you might try web1.codeproject.com through web6.codeproject.com. It's hard to explain but the load is not being evenly split between servers, and so some of the servers are overloaded at times, and others have lots of capacity. We have a number of things underway to improve CodeProject's performance, including new hardware, a caged hosting space (I think we're at something like 14 servers and have exhausted the realestate on our rack), and some optimization of site's code where we can eek out improvements. Many thanks for your patience. We're working hard on the perf problems and we should all see some progress very soon. David
David, I for one appreciate the effort the team are putting in ! I plan on trying to persuade the supplier to do black t shirts, white isn't my colour :suss: Elaine (fashion snob fluffy tigress) The tigress is here :-D
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jubilex wrote: Wow, this is such a cool site Thanks! It's nice to hear that and with the litany of perf troubles we've had there's been a real shortage of good vibe. jubilex wrote: can see that others have had the same problems, but apparently solved them somehow Well, they haven't really. The troubles are continuing. Here's a couple of things you can try: The site works reasonably well before 6am EST and after 3pm EST, until we get our problems ironed out, you will be happier if you visit us outside of these times. Also, we've made each of our web servers individually addressable. rather than hitting www.codeproject.com, you might try web1.codeproject.com through web6.codeproject.com. It's hard to explain but the load is not being evenly split between servers, and so some of the servers are overloaded at times, and others have lots of capacity. We have a number of things underway to improve CodeProject's performance, including new hardware, a caged hosting space (I think we're at something like 14 servers and have exhausted the realestate on our rack), and some optimization of site's code where we can eek out improvements. Many thanks for your patience. We're working hard on the perf problems and we should all see some progress very soon. David
David Cunningham wrote: there's been a real shortage of good vibe Sadly, 'good vibe' usually manifests itself through people's silence. I am sure that most of us that do regularly visit TCP have nothing but good vibes for this place. :) I can almost feel the pain and strain of the webservers... I am one that's cheering on the sidelines - keep up the good work! : Dean 'Karnatos' Michaud
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jubilex wrote: Wow, this is such a cool site Thanks! It's nice to hear that and with the litany of perf troubles we've had there's been a real shortage of good vibe. jubilex wrote: can see that others have had the same problems, but apparently solved them somehow Well, they haven't really. The troubles are continuing. Here's a couple of things you can try: The site works reasonably well before 6am EST and after 3pm EST, until we get our problems ironed out, you will be happier if you visit us outside of these times. Also, we've made each of our web servers individually addressable. rather than hitting www.codeproject.com, you might try web1.codeproject.com through web6.codeproject.com. It's hard to explain but the load is not being evenly split between servers, and so some of the servers are overloaded at times, and others have lots of capacity. We have a number of things underway to improve CodeProject's performance, including new hardware, a caged hosting space (I think we're at something like 14 servers and have exhausted the realestate on our rack), and some optimization of site's code where we can eek out improvements. Many thanks for your patience. We're working hard on the perf problems and we should all see some progress very soon. David
I'm curious... do you think that slowly phasing the site into ASP.Net would help? Joel Holdsworth
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I'm curious... do you think that slowly phasing the site into ASP.Net would help? Joel Holdsworth
Joel Holdsworth wrote: I'm curious... do you think that slowly phasing the site into ASP.Net would help? The site re-write in ASP.NET is very near code complete, and we're all waiting for the time when we can deploy it. We have a boatload of testing (functional, load, perf, etc.) to do before that happens though, and we need to stay focused on fixing what's currently broken. David
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Joel Holdsworth wrote: I'm curious... do you think that slowly phasing the site into ASP.Net would help? The site re-write in ASP.NET is very near code complete, and we're all waiting for the time when we can deploy it. We have a boatload of testing (functional, load, perf, etc.) to do before that happens though, and we need to stay focused on fixing what's currently broken. David
Cool! I'm glad to hear that. So do you have any idea how much faster it will make things? Joel Holdsworth
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Cool! I'm glad to hear that. So do you have any idea how much faster it will make things? Joel Holdsworth
Joel Holdsworth wrote: So do you have any idea how much faster it will make things? We're shooting for 88 mph ;-) David
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Tomaž Štih wrote: Anyone at CP considered Linux as alternative Not actually being on the CP staff I can't say for sure, but I'm pretty sure the answer is no. More over switching to linux wouldn't even help because linux doesn't create bandwidth. Tomaž Štih wrote: It's obvious that ASP can't handle large site like this one. You think PHP could handle it better? I don't think so. Matt Newman
What is your malfunction? - Dangeresque, too?
From Matt Newman: More over switching to linux wouldn't even help because linux doesn't create bandwidth. Actually, its TCP/IP stack is implemented much better than on Windows (not the best in the world though) which allows for a higher throughput of existing bandwidth. Jeremy Falcon
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David, I for one appreciate the effort the team are putting in ! I plan on trying to persuade the supplier to do black t shirts, white isn't my colour :suss: Elaine (fashion snob fluffy tigress) The tigress is here :-D
Trollslayer wrote: I plan on trying to persuade the supplier to do black t shirts, white isn't my colour this sentence makes no sense. Statement retracted for inability to read
we are here to help each other get through this thing, whatever it is Vonnegut jr.
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Joel Holdsworth wrote: So do you have any idea how much faster it will make things? We're shooting for 88 mph ;-) David
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Joel Holdsworth wrote: So do you have any idea how much faster it will make things? We're shooting for 88 mph ;-) David
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Trollslayer wrote: I plan on trying to persuade the supplier to do black t shirts, white isn't my colour this sentence makes no sense. Statement retracted for inability to read
we are here to help each other get through this thing, whatever it is Vonnegut jr.
sighist || Agile Programming | doxygenpeterchen wrote: this sentence makes no sense. Makes sense to me. A number of people here have expressed a preference for a black codeproject t-shirt rather than a white one. Personally, I'd love a black Polo shirt, but that's me. Black is slimming too, but I wouldn't dream of suggesting that's why Elaine wants one, else she'll treat me like a troll and set tigger on me... Iain.