Slow slow Code Project
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jubilex wrote: Wow, this is such a cool site Thanks! It's nice to hear that and with the litany of perf troubles we've had there's been a real shortage of good vibe. jubilex wrote: can see that others have had the same problems, but apparently solved them somehow Well, they haven't really. The troubles are continuing. Here's a couple of things you can try: The site works reasonably well before 6am EST and after 3pm EST, until we get our problems ironed out, you will be happier if you visit us outside of these times. Also, we've made each of our web servers individually addressable. rather than hitting www.codeproject.com, you might try web1.codeproject.com through web6.codeproject.com. It's hard to explain but the load is not being evenly split between servers, and so some of the servers are overloaded at times, and others have lots of capacity. We have a number of things underway to improve CodeProject's performance, including new hardware, a caged hosting space (I think we're at something like 14 servers and have exhausted the realestate on our rack), and some optimization of site's code where we can eek out improvements. Many thanks for your patience. We're working hard on the perf problems and we should all see some progress very soon. David
David, I for one appreciate the effort the team are putting in ! I plan on trying to persuade the supplier to do black t shirts, white isn't my colour :suss: Elaine (fashion snob fluffy tigress) The tigress is here :-D
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jubilex wrote: Wow, this is such a cool site Thanks! It's nice to hear that and with the litany of perf troubles we've had there's been a real shortage of good vibe. jubilex wrote: can see that others have had the same problems, but apparently solved them somehow Well, they haven't really. The troubles are continuing. Here's a couple of things you can try: The site works reasonably well before 6am EST and after 3pm EST, until we get our problems ironed out, you will be happier if you visit us outside of these times. Also, we've made each of our web servers individually addressable. rather than hitting www.codeproject.com, you might try web1.codeproject.com through web6.codeproject.com. It's hard to explain but the load is not being evenly split between servers, and so some of the servers are overloaded at times, and others have lots of capacity. We have a number of things underway to improve CodeProject's performance, including new hardware, a caged hosting space (I think we're at something like 14 servers and have exhausted the realestate on our rack), and some optimization of site's code where we can eek out improvements. Many thanks for your patience. We're working hard on the perf problems and we should all see some progress very soon. David
David Cunningham wrote: there's been a real shortage of good vibe Sadly, 'good vibe' usually manifests itself through people's silence. I am sure that most of us that do regularly visit TCP have nothing but good vibes for this place. :) I can almost feel the pain and strain of the webservers... I am one that's cheering on the sidelines - keep up the good work! : Dean 'Karnatos' Michaud
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jubilex wrote: Wow, this is such a cool site Thanks! It's nice to hear that and with the litany of perf troubles we've had there's been a real shortage of good vibe. jubilex wrote: can see that others have had the same problems, but apparently solved them somehow Well, they haven't really. The troubles are continuing. Here's a couple of things you can try: The site works reasonably well before 6am EST and after 3pm EST, until we get our problems ironed out, you will be happier if you visit us outside of these times. Also, we've made each of our web servers individually addressable. rather than hitting www.codeproject.com, you might try web1.codeproject.com through web6.codeproject.com. It's hard to explain but the load is not being evenly split between servers, and so some of the servers are overloaded at times, and others have lots of capacity. We have a number of things underway to improve CodeProject's performance, including new hardware, a caged hosting space (I think we're at something like 14 servers and have exhausted the realestate on our rack), and some optimization of site's code where we can eek out improvements. Many thanks for your patience. We're working hard on the perf problems and we should all see some progress very soon. David
I'm curious... do you think that slowly phasing the site into ASP.Net would help? Joel Holdsworth
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I'm curious... do you think that slowly phasing the site into ASP.Net would help? Joel Holdsworth
Joel Holdsworth wrote: I'm curious... do you think that slowly phasing the site into ASP.Net would help? The site re-write in ASP.NET is very near code complete, and we're all waiting for the time when we can deploy it. We have a boatload of testing (functional, load, perf, etc.) to do before that happens though, and we need to stay focused on fixing what's currently broken. David
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Joel Holdsworth wrote: I'm curious... do you think that slowly phasing the site into ASP.Net would help? The site re-write in ASP.NET is very near code complete, and we're all waiting for the time when we can deploy it. We have a boatload of testing (functional, load, perf, etc.) to do before that happens though, and we need to stay focused on fixing what's currently broken. David
Cool! I'm glad to hear that. So do you have any idea how much faster it will make things? Joel Holdsworth
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Cool! I'm glad to hear that. So do you have any idea how much faster it will make things? Joel Holdsworth
Joel Holdsworth wrote: So do you have any idea how much faster it will make things? We're shooting for 88 mph ;-) David
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Tomaž Štih wrote: Anyone at CP considered Linux as alternative Not actually being on the CP staff I can't say for sure, but I'm pretty sure the answer is no. More over switching to linux wouldn't even help because linux doesn't create bandwidth. Tomaž Štih wrote: It's obvious that ASP can't handle large site like this one. You think PHP could handle it better? I don't think so. Matt Newman
What is your malfunction? - Dangeresque, too?
From Matt Newman: More over switching to linux wouldn't even help because linux doesn't create bandwidth. Actually, its TCP/IP stack is implemented much better than on Windows (not the best in the world though) which allows for a higher throughput of existing bandwidth. Jeremy Falcon
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David, I for one appreciate the effort the team are putting in ! I plan on trying to persuade the supplier to do black t shirts, white isn't my colour :suss: Elaine (fashion snob fluffy tigress) The tigress is here :-D
Trollslayer wrote: I plan on trying to persuade the supplier to do black t shirts, white isn't my colour this sentence makes no sense. Statement retracted for inability to read
we are here to help each other get through this thing, whatever it is Vonnegut jr.
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Joel Holdsworth wrote: So do you have any idea how much faster it will make things? We're shooting for 88 mph ;-) David
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Joel Holdsworth wrote: So do you have any idea how much faster it will make things? We're shooting for 88 mph ;-) David
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Trollslayer wrote: I plan on trying to persuade the supplier to do black t shirts, white isn't my colour this sentence makes no sense. Statement retracted for inability to read
we are here to help each other get through this thing, whatever it is Vonnegut jr.
sighist || Agile Programming | doxygenpeterchen wrote: this sentence makes no sense. Makes sense to me. A number of people here have expressed a preference for a black codeproject t-shirt rather than a white one. Personally, I'd love a black Polo shirt, but that's me. Black is slimming too, but I wouldn't dream of suggesting that's why Elaine wants one, else she'll treat me like a troll and set tigger on me... Iain.
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"We'll go back to the future Marty.... Great Scott!" ;P Joel Holdsworth
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Joel Holdsworth wrote: I'm curious... do you think that slowly phasing the site into ASP.Net would help? The site re-write in ASP.NET is very near code complete, and we're all waiting for the time when we can deploy it. We have a boatload of testing (functional, load, perf, etc.) to do before that happens though, and we need to stay focused on fixing what's currently broken. David
David Cunningham wrote: The site re-write in ASP.NET is very near code complete Woohoo! Sounds exciting! David Cunningham wrote: We have a boatload of testing (functional, load, perf, etc.) to do before that happens though, and we need to stay focused on fixing what's currently broken. So, are you guys going to setup a test server somewhere on which some of us could squeeze out the last bugs before rolling it out on codeproject.com? I'm blabbing constantly, so I guess I could do the stress tests for you.. ;) -- Ich bin Joachim von Hassel, und ich bin Pilot der Bundeswehr. Welle: Erdball - F104-G Starfighter
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royal or US miles?
we are here to help each other get through this thing, whatever it is Vonnegut jr.
sighist || Agile Programming | doxygenCanada is a member of the common wealth, are they not? :) -- Ich bin Joachim von Hassel, und ich bin Pilot der Bundeswehr. Welle: Erdball - F104-G Starfighter
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peterchen wrote: this sentence makes no sense. Makes sense to me. A number of people here have expressed a preference for a black codeproject t-shirt rather than a white one. Personally, I'd love a black Polo shirt, but that's me. Black is slimming too, but I wouldn't dream of suggesting that's why Elaine wants one, else she'll treat me like a troll and set tigger on me... Iain.
Kill Tigger ! Kill ! ;P The tigress is here :-D
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Trollslayer wrote: I plan on trying to persuade the supplier to do black t shirts, white isn't my colour this sentence makes no sense. Statement retracted for inability to read
we are here to help each other get through this thing, whatever it is Vonnegut jr.
sighist || Agile Programming | doxygenDo you mean that black and white aren't technically colors?
I can imagine the sinking feeling one would have after ordering my book, only to find a laughably ridiculous theory with demented logic once the book arrives - Mark McCutcheon
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peterchen wrote: this sentence makes no sense. Makes sense to me. A number of people here have expressed a preference for a black codeproject t-shirt rather than a white one. Personally, I'd love a black Polo shirt, but that's me. Black is slimming too, but I wouldn't dream of suggesting that's why Elaine wants one, else she'll treat me like a troll and set tigger on me... Iain.
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Do you mean that black and white aren't technically colors?
I can imagine the sinking feeling one would have after ordering my book, only to find a laughably ridiculous theory with demented logic once the book arrives - Mark McCutcheon
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Tomaž Štih wrote: Anyone at CP considered Linux as alternative. It's obvious that ASP can't handle large site like this one Comparing Linux and ASP is like comparing Apples and oranges. Apples and Oranges may both be fruit just as Linux and ASP are software but they are built to acomplish different things. Anyway, as you should know, CP are in the process of rewriting the site to use ASP.NET.
"If a man empties his purse into his head, no man can take it away from him, for an investment in knowledge pays the best interest." -- Joseph E. O'Donnell Can't manage to P/Invoke that Win32 API in .NET? Why not do interop the wiki way!
Colin Angus Mackay wrote: Comparing Linux and ASP is like comparing Apples and oranges Considering one is an operating system and another a scripting language. I would tend to agree :) p.s-Linux/Apache/PHP/MySQL still kicks the pants off any ASP/IIS/Windows/SQLServer package anyday. Colin Angus Mackay wrote: Anyway, as you should know, CP are in the process of rewriting the site to use ASP.NET. I think at one point Chris considered switching to PHP, but I figure MS appraoched him and offered a deal he couldn't refuse (So long as he stuck to windows platform). Like more money advertising, free software, who knows. It's no secret that CP is the best programming site on the net...and it's obviously in favour of windows technologies. Cheers :) How do I print my voice mail?
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Tomaž Štih wrote: Anyone at CP considered Linux as alternative Not actually being on the CP staff I can't say for sure, but I'm pretty sure the answer is no. More over switching to linux wouldn't even help because linux doesn't create bandwidth. Tomaž Štih wrote: It's obvious that ASP can't handle large site like this one. You think PHP could handle it better? I don't think so. Matt Newman
What is your malfunction? - Dangeresque, too?
Matt Newman wrote: You think PHP could handle it better? I don't think so. IHMO It's common knowledge that popular OSS is more efficient, cost-effective and secure/bug free than it's propritary MS counterparts. Both have their ups and downs, i'll agree, but where open source is usually best for tech savvy individuals MS makes a tradeoff between pure performance for a more commercial ease of use quality software. I'm willing to bet that OSS OS,etc are still in the lead as far as web servers are concerned. Unless the study was conducted by MS or they paid for the study...in which case the results are probably bunk X| Matt Newman wrote: You think PHP could handle it better? I don't think so. IMHO it's almost obvious it could/would. :) Cheers How do I print my voice mail?