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  • M Marc Clifton

    I've been using Thunderbird now for several months, without a single hitch. Outlook would crash every day or so! Marc Microsoft MVP, Visual C# MyXaml MyXaml Blog Hunt The Wumpus RealDevs.Net

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    KaRl
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    I've got some weird experiments with outlook's proprietary RTF, that's why I stopped using it, as retaliation.


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      I have personally found thunderbird to be lacking in some really basic features. It also has some really annoying traits, like forwarding as an attachment with no obvious way of forwarding inline. Thanks, Simey

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      Jorgen Sigvardsson
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      Simon Walton wrote: to be lacking in some really basic features Such as...? I've never found anything lacking, on the contrary, I've found it to work exceedingly well. The filters are just excellent compared to the crud in Outlook - it works! But then again, filtering is to me the most critical feature. -- ...Coca Cola, sometimes war...

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      • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

        IE is still my browser of choice, but Thunderbird has really rocked my email part of the world. It actually works as intended! Wohoo! :jig: -- ...Coca Cola, sometimes war...

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        KaRl
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        Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: IE is still my browser of choice Any reason for that?


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        • M Marc Clifton

          I've been using Thunderbird now for several months, without a single hitch. Outlook would crash every day or so! Marc Microsoft MVP, Visual C# MyXaml MyXaml Blog Hunt The Wumpus RealDevs.Net

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          Paul Watson
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          Are you connecting to an Exchange mailbox with it? I *want* to switch but last time I tried Thunderbird with our Exchange box it, I can't remember which, didn't support it or didn't work. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: "Gassho rei, Watson-san!" Crikey! ain't life grand?

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          • K KaRl

            I took the step, and for the moment no regret. I'm not disoriented, I think the surf is faster, and I've found all the functionalities I wanted. No big difference with CP, and that matters. The preview is a little bit strange, the emoticons are displayed with a bigger space in between, but for the moment nothing worrying (<edit> I found some differences when replying: the "quote" button disapperead, as the formatting buttons, but who doesn't know HTML tags by heart anyway? :-D </edit> ) The only small disappointment is about the display of the netscape-like icon displayed for pictures before they are loaded: I find it awful and useless. Anyway, I would recommend it, it's a great alternative to IE. I'm so happy with firefox that for my mail client I switched from Eudora (kill Outlook, kill!) to Thunderbird. Let's continue the experiment, and discover what extensions can offer: seems promising :cool:


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            Paul Watson
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            I was completely surprised and frankly overjoyed to see just how many people were using FireFox when I asked for those screenshots*. I was expecting a bunch of Windows developers to be IE users through and through. * No, that wasn't the point of my request. Just a nice side benefit of asking. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: "Gassho rei, Watson-san!" Crikey! ain't life grand?

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            • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

              I'm trying to make the others at work switch, but it has failed thus far. I have one fellow Thunderbird ally, and one that agrees with the benefit of using Thunderbird but is too lazy, it seems, to actually do the switch. -- ...Coca Cola, sometimes war...

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              Paul Watson
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              You want to run your "the benefits are" speech by us? I'd be interested to hear them as I battle with my co-workers too on something as clear cut as FireFox over IE*. * I see you use IE, you bad man. :P regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: "Gassho rei, Watson-san!" Crikey! ain't life grand?

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              • P Paul Watson

                Are you connecting to an Exchange mailbox with it? I *want* to switch but last time I tried Thunderbird with our Exchange box it, I can't remember which, didn't support it or didn't work. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: "Gassho rei, Watson-san!" Crikey! ain't life grand?

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                Marc Clifton
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                Paul Watson wrote: Are you connecting to an Exchange mailbox with it? Nope. Paul Watson wrote: didn't support it or didn't work. Hmmm. I have no idea whether that problem has been corrected or not. So what did you do with all those screenshots people sent you? Marc Microsoft MVP, Visual C# MyXaml MyXaml Blog Hunt The Wumpus RealDevs.Net

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                • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

                  IE is still my browser of choice, but Thunderbird has really rocked my email part of the world. It actually works as intended! Wohoo! :jig: -- ...Coca Cola, sometimes war...

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                  Marc Clifton
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                  Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: IE is still my browser of choice Well, I decided a long time ago that I can't live without a browser that supports tab'd windows. So, it's Avant for me, but it's still an IE engine. Marc Microsoft MVP, Visual C# MyXaml MyXaml Blog Hunt The Wumpus RealDevs.Net

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                  • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

                    Simon Walton wrote: to be lacking in some really basic features Such as...? I've never found anything lacking, on the contrary, I've found it to work exceedingly well. The filters are just excellent compared to the crud in Outlook - it works! But then again, filtering is to me the most critical feature. -- ...Coca Cola, sometimes war...

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                    Rocky Moore
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                    Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: Such as...? He went on to explain some of them, or did you not read the rest of the message. But, I can add more... For me it is a pain to find out what email accounts I have new mail as you cannot see the number of message when you close the mail folder. Small, but a pain. For me it is a pain to adjust the settings for junk mail as it applies to the currently selected account. That means you have to select an account, then select the menu for junk mail settings and then make the changes and repeat this for every account. A pain.. For me it is a pain to adjust settings for the account as you have to do it for each account. While it is in a tree form and not as annoying as the junk mail settings, it is still a pain with a lot of accounts. For me it is a pain to setup individual smtp accounts if required for different accounts. By default it only uses one, so you have to go into the advanced settings and add each one manually. Although small, it is yet another pain. For me it is a pain that they do not provide spell checking while you type. You have to choose the option when you want to check spelling. For me it is a pain that they do not provide background send mail. It pops up that window and you have to wait until it sends you message. Very annoying when trying to rip through a lot of replies! Occasionally, the mail checking seems to stop. If my machine is one for days I will find after a while that it is no longer checking for mail. Do not know if it has something to do with having a lot of accounts or not. All of these I seem to suffer through without a lot of effort. It is better than worring I will open a message that some new virus has attached to or that I that something will get corrupted in my Office install (which happened recently) requiring me to reinstall and taking the extra time to reconfigure Outlook. I also give them a lot of credit since it is not even a 1.0 version yet! :) Rocky <>< www.HintsAndTips.com www.MyQuickPoll.com - 2004 Election poll is #33 www.GotTheAnswerToSpam.com "We plan for the future, we learn from the past, we live life in the present!"

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                    • K KaRl

                      I took the step, and for the moment no regret. I'm not disoriented, I think the surf is faster, and I've found all the functionalities I wanted. No big difference with CP, and that matters. The preview is a little bit strange, the emoticons are displayed with a bigger space in between, but for the moment nothing worrying (<edit> I found some differences when replying: the "quote" button disapperead, as the formatting buttons, but who doesn't know HTML tags by heart anyway? :-D </edit> ) The only small disappointment is about the display of the netscape-like icon displayed for pictures before they are loaded: I find it awful and useless. Anyway, I would recommend it, it's a great alternative to IE. I'm so happy with firefox that for my mail client I switched from Eudora (kill Outlook, kill!) to Thunderbird. Let's continue the experiment, and discover what extensions can offer: seems promising :cool:


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                      Nemanja Trifunovic
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                      I mostly use Netscape these days, except for Code Project, of course. KaЯl wrote: kill Outlook, kill! Hmmm. At work we had Lots Notes before, and when we switched to Outlook, it was a Good Thing.


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                      • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

                        IE is still my browser of choice, but Thunderbird has really rocked my email part of the world. It actually works as intended! Wohoo! :jig: -- ...Coca Cola, sometimes war...

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                        Rocky Moore
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                        Same here. Still using CrazyBrowser which uses IE. Have Mozilla and Opera for testing although I am not concerned about Oprea anymore as I classify them as one at the bottom of the pile. I am sure there are still quite a few people that have paid for Opera however and they will be die hard until the end :) Rocky <>< www.HintsAndTips.com www.MyQuickPoll.com - 2004 Election poll is #33 www.GotTheAnswerToSpam.com "We plan for the future, we learn from the past, we live life in the present!"

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                        • P Paul Watson

                          I was completely surprised and frankly overjoyed to see just how many people were using FireFox when I asked for those screenshots*. I was expecting a bunch of Windows developers to be IE users through and through. * No, that wasn't the point of my request. Just a nice side benefit of asking. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: "Gassho rei, Watson-san!" Crikey! ain't life grand?

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                          Well, at least the ones that replied :) Rocky <>< www.HintsAndTips.com www.MyQuickPoll.com - 2004 Election poll is #33 www.GotTheAnswerToSpam.com "We plan for the future, we learn from the past, we live life in the present!"

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                            Well, at least the ones that replied :) Rocky <>< www.HintsAndTips.com www.MyQuickPoll.com - 2004 Election poll is #33 www.GotTheAnswerToSpam.com "We plan for the future, we learn from the past, we live life in the present!"

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                            Paul Watson
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                            Yup, the active, contributing members of CP. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: "Gassho rei, Watson-san!" Crikey! ain't life grand?

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                            • M Marc Clifton

                              Paul Watson wrote: Are you connecting to an Exchange mailbox with it? Nope. Paul Watson wrote: didn't support it or didn't work. Hmmm. I have no idea whether that problem has been corrected or not. So what did you do with all those screenshots people sent you? Marc Microsoft MVP, Visual C# MyXaml MyXaml Blog Hunt The Wumpus RealDevs.Net

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                              Cool, just connected Thunderbird to Exchange (via IMAP) and 6208 Inbox email headers have been downloaded. I remember my problem now. It couldn't send, had authentication problems with our Exchange server. Works great now. I really like the Search Folders and Flagging of Outlook 2003 though, nice of there are Thunderbird extensions like those. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: "Gassho rei, Watson-san!" Crikey! ain't life grand?

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                              • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

                                Simon Walton wrote: to be lacking in some really basic features Such as...? I've never found anything lacking, on the contrary, I've found it to work exceedingly well. The filters are just excellent compared to the crud in Outlook - it works! But then again, filtering is to me the most critical feature. -- ...Coca Cola, sometimes war...

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                                Hey Jorgen, you have any themes for Thunderbird which are good? I use Lure for FF and just got Nautical for TB but was hoping there was something nicer. ta regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: "Gassho rei, Watson-san!" Crikey! ain't life grand?

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                                  Yup, the active, contributing members of CP. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: "Gassho rei, Watson-san!" Crikey! ain't life grand?

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                                  Rocky Moore
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                                  I didn't help out because my desktop was quite a mess.. I have two monitors and run at 1280x1024 on both screens and have one screen completely filled with icons and the other one half way :-O This forced me today to spend almost two hours cleaning things up and finally reducing it to only 58 icons :) Rocky <>< www.HintsAndTips.com www.MyQuickPoll.com - 2004 Election poll is #33 www.GotTheAnswerToSpam.com "We plan for the future, we learn from the past, we live life in the present!"

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                                  • K KaRl

                                    I took the step, and for the moment no regret. I'm not disoriented, I think the surf is faster, and I've found all the functionalities I wanted. No big difference with CP, and that matters. The preview is a little bit strange, the emoticons are displayed with a bigger space in between, but for the moment nothing worrying (<edit> I found some differences when replying: the "quote" button disapperead, as the formatting buttons, but who doesn't know HTML tags by heart anyway? :-D </edit> ) The only small disappointment is about the display of the netscape-like icon displayed for pictures before they are loaded: I find it awful and useless. Anyway, I would recommend it, it's a great alternative to IE. I'm so happy with firefox that for my mail client I switched from Eudora (kill Outlook, kill!) to Thunderbird. Let's continue the experiment, and discover what extensions can offer: seems promising :cool:


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                                    David Stone
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                                    Definitely get the All-In-One Gestures extension. Once you start using mouse gestures, you'll never want to go back. :-D


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                                      Definitely get the All-In-One Gestures extension. Once you start using mouse gestures, you'll never want to go back. :-D


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                                      Ted Ferenc
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                                      I totally agree! I can't manage without them now, Opera has had them for years. Firefox now replaces IE for the one site Opera does not work on i.e. CP.In the future I can see me moving to Firefox, opera has a couple of feature I like that Firefox does not have But I have to hide from the clikety police:sigh:


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                                      • K KaRl

                                        Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: IE is still my browser of choice Any reason for that?


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                                        Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                                        It looks and feels quicker IMO. And all CP features works in it too. :) -- ...Coca Cola, sometimes war...

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                                        • M Marc Clifton

                                          Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: IE is still my browser of choice Well, I decided a long time ago that I can't live without a browser that supports tab'd windows. So, it's Avant for me, but it's still an IE engine. Marc Microsoft MVP, Visual C# MyXaml MyXaml Blog Hunt The Wumpus RealDevs.Net

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                                          Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                                          Tabs are really nice, I have to admit that. But the last time I installed Avant, it messed up some registry keys for me (UserAgent and other things), which made CP not like me much. I don't dare go there again. :~ -- ...Coca Cola, sometimes war...

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