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  • S Sijin

    I must have deleted more than 10 opening lines, I can't make up my mind what to say, what are your thoughts?


    I always think that the idea of a compiler that compiles another compiler or itself is rather incestuous in a binary way. - Colin Davies My .Net Blog

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    matthias s 0
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    I'm seeing pictures of huge, dusty factory halls with tall dirty windows and grey dressed people working on their sewing-machine-like PCs. No sounds except the click-clack of the keyboards. On a balcony the cold-blooded development-lead with a whip and a sympathic grin. Not meeting your deadline will transport you directly into the so-called dungeon. And you know what THAT means. :~ Just my 2 cent vision... :doh: Matthias

    If eell I ,nust draw to your atenttion to het fakt that I can splel perfrectly well - i;ts my typeying that sukcs. (Lounge/David Wulff)

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      Well, opening line or no, i'm glad you brought it up. In these days of glamorous Code Barons, constantly in the spotlight living up their huge fortunes, we tend to forget the human stone on which they've built their empires. Yet, behind the piles of glossy tabloids, a nation cries out for justice. Scores of men, descending daily into Data Mines, marching towards an early death by lurking bugs or the inevitable onset of "bit lung". Rows of women, hunched over their machines, working long hours in the Web Shops. Children- but there are no children. Childhood is cut short, young fingers soon bent and aching, eyes dimmed, with no compensation save the empty promises of future employment to keep them bound to their tasks. Oh, this grand Software Industry. Ah, this magnificent Information Age. A tender child of thirteen, denied the wonderful encyclopedia of his forefathers, attempts to research a certain aquatic rodent by visiting beaver.com, and is sucked into the seedy underworld of the .NET. Look at the skyline, the factories silhouetted against the blood red sunset. "What a fabulous view", you say, though the daily newsblogs have made you more than familiar with it, this testament to the glorious age we live in. But a visit to the red light district finds Code Whores on every corner, a gaudy sideshow arrayed in empty job titles and meaningless certifications, yesterday's Alphabet Soup crusted on their lips. See the derelict Workaholics in every gutter: barely able to remember their own names, clothes stinking of Perl, they beg for "just one more sip" of Java. "Only the price of progress", you rationalize, "remember, you can't make an omelette without killing a few people." Oh, you fool! You speak of progress while our rivers clog with Spaghetti Code, our wildlife perish from Code Bloat, our cities filled with the stench of Buffer Overflows. "Possible"? Is such a think "possible"? Look around you man! This is not some distopian future, this is NOW. Our society raped and left for dead at the hands of the greedy few. Oh man, oh woman, oh child... what will become of us? The Garbage Collector is at our doorstep, and it is a sickle that he carries.
      You**'re one microscopic cog**

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      matthias s 0
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      :laugh: man, thanks for the laugh!! matthias

      If eell I ,nust draw to your atenttion to het fakt that I can splel perfrectly well - i;ts my typeying that sukcs. (Lounge/David Wulff)

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      • S Sijin

        I must have deleted more than 10 opening lines, I can't make up my mind what to say, what are your thoughts?


        I always think that the idea of a compiler that compiles another compiler or itself is rather incestuous in a binary way. - Colin Davies My .Net Blog

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        Lost User
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        Sijin wrote: what are your thoughts? 3ln(x2 - 1) - 2ln * y -4ln(x + 1) + (2 / 3)ln(y2 + y) ln(x2 - 1)3 - (ln * y)2 - ln(x + 1)4 + ln(y2 + y)2/3 ln[(x2 - 1)3(y2 + y)2/3 / {(x + 1)4y2}] ln[(x - 1)3(x + 1)3(y + 1)2/3y2/3 / {(x + 1)4y2}] ln[(x - 1)3(y + 1)2/3 / {(x + 1)y4/3}] Fresh out of math class ;) -- Aaron Eldreth

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          I'm seeing pictures of huge, dusty factory halls with tall dirty windows and grey dressed people working on their sewing-machine-like PCs. No sounds except the click-clack of the keyboards. On a balcony the cold-blooded development-lead with a whip and a sympathic grin. Not meeting your deadline will transport you directly into the so-called dungeon. And you know what THAT means. :~ Just my 2 cent vision... :doh: Matthias

          If eell I ,nust draw to your atenttion to het fakt that I can splel perfrectly well - i;ts my typeying that sukcs. (Lounge/David Wulff)

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          El Corazon
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          Uhm... I volunteer to be the geek that rescues the maid and carries her away from the dungeon to open a private software group that practices incantations of C++ and STL. _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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            Sijin wrote: what are your thoughts? 3ln(x2 - 1) - 2ln * y -4ln(x + 1) + (2 / 3)ln(y2 + y) ln(x2 - 1)3 - (ln * y)2 - ln(x + 1)4 + ln(y2 + y)2/3 ln[(x2 - 1)3(y2 + y)2/3 / {(x + 1)4y2}] ln[(x - 1)3(x + 1)3(y + 1)2/3y2/3 / {(x + 1)4y2}] ln[(x - 1)3(y + 1)2/3 / {(x + 1)y4/3}] Fresh out of math class ;) -- Aaron Eldreth

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            Jason McBurney
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            42? do you need to investigate an online backup[^] company

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            • S Sijin

              I must have deleted more than 10 opening lines, I can't make up my mind what to say, what are your thoughts?


              I always think that the idea of a compiler that compiles another compiler or itself is rather incestuous in a binary way. - Colin Davies My .Net Blog

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              Jason McBurney
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              Are you discussing Software that writes Software? do you need to investigate an online backup[^] company

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              • S Shog9 0

                Well, opening line or no, i'm glad you brought it up. In these days of glamorous Code Barons, constantly in the spotlight living up their huge fortunes, we tend to forget the human stone on which they've built their empires. Yet, behind the piles of glossy tabloids, a nation cries out for justice. Scores of men, descending daily into Data Mines, marching towards an early death by lurking bugs or the inevitable onset of "bit lung". Rows of women, hunched over their machines, working long hours in the Web Shops. Children- but there are no children. Childhood is cut short, young fingers soon bent and aching, eyes dimmed, with no compensation save the empty promises of future employment to keep them bound to their tasks. Oh, this grand Software Industry. Ah, this magnificent Information Age. A tender child of thirteen, denied the wonderful encyclopedia of his forefathers, attempts to research a certain aquatic rodent by visiting beaver.com, and is sucked into the seedy underworld of the .NET. Look at the skyline, the factories silhouetted against the blood red sunset. "What a fabulous view", you say, though the daily newsblogs have made you more than familiar with it, this testament to the glorious age we live in. But a visit to the red light district finds Code Whores on every corner, a gaudy sideshow arrayed in empty job titles and meaningless certifications, yesterday's Alphabet Soup crusted on their lips. See the derelict Workaholics in every gutter: barely able to remember their own names, clothes stinking of Perl, they beg for "just one more sip" of Java. "Only the price of progress", you rationalize, "remember, you can't make an omelette without killing a few people." Oh, you fool! You speak of progress while our rivers clog with Spaghetti Code, our wildlife perish from Code Bloat, our cities filled with the stench of Buffer Overflows. "Possible"? Is such a think "possible"? Look around you man! This is not some distopian future, this is NOW. Our society raped and left for dead at the hands of the greedy few. Oh man, oh woman, oh child... what will become of us? The Garbage Collector is at our doorstep, and it is a sickle that he carries.
                You**'re one microscopic cog**

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                Chris Meech
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                I don't know where you come up with this stuff, but whenever I read a post of yours like this, I think, Man this guy, Shog9 is in the wrong business. Shog9 wrote: The Garbage Collector is at our doorstep, and it is a sickle that he carries. That is just so poetic. :) Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar] I think people should be required to have an operator's permit to use the internet. John Simmons I have a feeling that if the millions of man hours wasted every year by geeks trying to get various video and sound cards working under Linux were put into some useful endeavor we'd have solved world hunger, we'd have peace and aids would be no more. [JOS poster]

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                • S Sijin

                  I must have deleted more than 10 opening lines, I can't make up my mind what to say, what are your thoughts?


                  I always think that the idea of a compiler that compiles another compiler or itself is rather incestuous in a binary way. - Colin Davies My .Net Blog

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                  Rocky Moore
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                  I think they will be the buzz word for the next (x) years. Do not know if it will float good or not, but some big boys are spending a lot of money to push it. Rocky <>< www.HintsAndTips.com - Includes Developer Tips www.MyQuickPoll.com - Now with Recent Poll List

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                  • S Shog9 0

                    Well, opening line or no, i'm glad you brought it up. In these days of glamorous Code Barons, constantly in the spotlight living up their huge fortunes, we tend to forget the human stone on which they've built their empires. Yet, behind the piles of glossy tabloids, a nation cries out for justice. Scores of men, descending daily into Data Mines, marching towards an early death by lurking bugs or the inevitable onset of "bit lung". Rows of women, hunched over their machines, working long hours in the Web Shops. Children- but there are no children. Childhood is cut short, young fingers soon bent and aching, eyes dimmed, with no compensation save the empty promises of future employment to keep them bound to their tasks. Oh, this grand Software Industry. Ah, this magnificent Information Age. A tender child of thirteen, denied the wonderful encyclopedia of his forefathers, attempts to research a certain aquatic rodent by visiting beaver.com, and is sucked into the seedy underworld of the .NET. Look at the skyline, the factories silhouetted against the blood red sunset. "What a fabulous view", you say, though the daily newsblogs have made you more than familiar with it, this testament to the glorious age we live in. But a visit to the red light district finds Code Whores on every corner, a gaudy sideshow arrayed in empty job titles and meaningless certifications, yesterday's Alphabet Soup crusted on their lips. See the derelict Workaholics in every gutter: barely able to remember their own names, clothes stinking of Perl, they beg for "just one more sip" of Java. "Only the price of progress", you rationalize, "remember, you can't make an omelette without killing a few people." Oh, you fool! You speak of progress while our rivers clog with Spaghetti Code, our wildlife perish from Code Bloat, our cities filled with the stench of Buffer Overflows. "Possible"? Is such a think "possible"? Look around you man! This is not some distopian future, this is NOW. Our society raped and left for dead at the hands of the greedy few. Oh man, oh woman, oh child... what will become of us? The Garbage Collector is at our doorstep, and it is a sickle that he carries.
                    You**'re one microscopic cog**

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                    PJ Arends
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                    Shog9ism at it's best. Thanks for the laugh Josh:laugh::laugh::laugh: 5


                    "You're obviously a superstar." - Christian Graus about me - 12 Feb '03 "Obviously ???  You're definitely a superstar!!!" mYkel - 21 Jun '04 Within you lies the power for good - Use it!

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                    • J Jason McBurney

                      42? do you need to investigate an online backup[^] company

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                      Dave Goodman
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                      23! Hitchhiking is not the answer, Illumination is the answer. Sex is not the answer, sex is the question. The answer is yes! Dave Goodman dgoodman@infoway.com www.dkgoodman.com "Actio sequitur esse."

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                      • C Chris Meech

                        I don't know where you come up with this stuff, but whenever I read a post of yours like this, I think, Man this guy, Shog9 is in the wrong business. Shog9 wrote: The Garbage Collector is at our doorstep, and it is a sickle that he carries. That is just so poetic. :) Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar] I think people should be required to have an operator's permit to use the internet. John Simmons I have a feeling that if the millions of man hours wasted every year by geeks trying to get various video and sound cards working under Linux were put into some useful endeavor we'd have solved world hunger, we'd have peace and aids would be no more. [JOS poster]

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                        Chris Meech Shog9 is in the wrong business. Funny, i sometimes think the same thing while reading code i've written... :rolleyes: Thanks, Chris :)
                        You**'re one microscopic cog** in his catastrophic plan...

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                        • C Chris Meech

                          I don't know where you come up with this stuff, but whenever I read a post of yours like this, I think, Man this guy, Shog9 is in the wrong business. Shog9 wrote: The Garbage Collector is at our doorstep, and it is a sickle that he carries. That is just so poetic. :) Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar] I think people should be required to have an operator's permit to use the internet. John Simmons I have a feeling that if the millions of man hours wasted every year by geeks trying to get various video and sound cards working under Linux were put into some useful endeavor we'd have solved world hunger, we'd have peace and aids would be no more. [JOS poster]

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                          Jeremy Falcon
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                          I have to agree. Jeremy Falcon

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                          • S Shog9 0

                            Well, opening line or no, i'm glad you brought it up. In these days of glamorous Code Barons, constantly in the spotlight living up their huge fortunes, we tend to forget the human stone on which they've built their empires. Yet, behind the piles of glossy tabloids, a nation cries out for justice. Scores of men, descending daily into Data Mines, marching towards an early death by lurking bugs or the inevitable onset of "bit lung". Rows of women, hunched over their machines, working long hours in the Web Shops. Children- but there are no children. Childhood is cut short, young fingers soon bent and aching, eyes dimmed, with no compensation save the empty promises of future employment to keep them bound to their tasks. Oh, this grand Software Industry. Ah, this magnificent Information Age. A tender child of thirteen, denied the wonderful encyclopedia of his forefathers, attempts to research a certain aquatic rodent by visiting beaver.com, and is sucked into the seedy underworld of the .NET. Look at the skyline, the factories silhouetted against the blood red sunset. "What a fabulous view", you say, though the daily newsblogs have made you more than familiar with it, this testament to the glorious age we live in. But a visit to the red light district finds Code Whores on every corner, a gaudy sideshow arrayed in empty job titles and meaningless certifications, yesterday's Alphabet Soup crusted on their lips. See the derelict Workaholics in every gutter: barely able to remember their own names, clothes stinking of Perl, they beg for "just one more sip" of Java. "Only the price of progress", you rationalize, "remember, you can't make an omelette without killing a few people." Oh, you fool! You speak of progress while our rivers clog with Spaghetti Code, our wildlife perish from Code Bloat, our cities filled with the stench of Buffer Overflows. "Possible"? Is such a think "possible"? Look around you man! This is not some distopian future, this is NOW. Our society raped and left for dead at the hands of the greedy few. Oh man, oh woman, oh child... what will become of us? The Garbage Collector is at our doorstep, and it is a sickle that he carries.
                            You**'re one microscopic cog**

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                            beaver.com[^];P "My kid was Inmate of the Month at Adobe Mountain Juvenile Corrections Center" - Bumper Sticker in Bullhead City

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