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Howdy howdy. Remember me? :) Miss me? :jig: I'm back to Windows code now and figured it was time to get back to CP. What have I missed? Kidding. I'm working for these guys[^] now building this[^]. Any other Best Software lurkers out there? How about ex-Best types? :) Anyways, CP has been a terrific reference for me in the past, and I look forward to all you can teach me about .NET. J
"I am the Lorax. I speak for the trees."
Jamie Hale wrote: I'm working for these guys[^] One laptop for three? Isn't that boring? :rolleyes:
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Howdy howdy. Remember me? :) Miss me? :jig: I'm back to Windows code now and figured it was time to get back to CP. What have I missed? Kidding. I'm working for these guys[^] now building this[^]. Any other Best Software lurkers out there? How about ex-Best types? :) Anyways, CP has been a terrific reference for me in the past, and I look forward to all you can teach me about .NET. J
"I am the Lorax. I speak for the trees."
Welcome back! :beer:
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Welcome back Jamie. :) I've barely been here too...life's just been too busy recently! At the moment I'm knee deep in company startup, web design and another Visual Studio add-in (in WTL this time). The next few months could be busy! :rolleyes: Anna :rose: Homepage | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work. Trouble with resource IDs? Try the Resource ID Organiser Visual C++ Add-In
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Howdy howdy. Remember me? :) Miss me? :jig: I'm back to Windows code now and figured it was time to get back to CP. What have I missed? Kidding. I'm working for these guys[^] now building this[^]. Any other Best Software lurkers out there? How about ex-Best types? :) Anyways, CP has been a terrific reference for me in the past, and I look forward to all you can teach me about .NET. J
"I am the Lorax. I speak for the trees."
Are you in Atlanta? :confused: I didn't realize until recently that Peachtree had been sold .. once again. When I worked for them, they were sold to ADP, but I lost track of them when I left in '96 (I was the lead programmer there for a couple of years). Cheers, Tom Archer "Use what talents you possess. The woods would be very silent if no birds sang there except those that sang best." - William Blake * Inside C# -Second Edition * Visual C++.NET Bible * Extending MFC Applications with the .NET Framework
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Nope. Mississauga. :( I live in Markham. Hell of a commute. J
"I am the Lorax. I speak for the trees."
:omg: Did they move all of Peachtree? It was in Nocross (part of Atlanta) for many years. Cheers, Tom Archer "Use what talents you possess. The woods would be very silent if no birds sang there except those that sang best." - William Blake * Inside C# -Second Edition * Visual C++.NET Bible * Extending MFC Applications with the .NET Framework
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Howdy howdy. Remember me? :) Miss me? :jig: I'm back to Windows code now and figured it was time to get back to CP. What have I missed? Kidding. I'm working for these guys[^] now building this[^]. Any other Best Software lurkers out there? How about ex-Best types? :) Anyways, CP has been a terrific reference for me in the past, and I look forward to all you can teach me about .NET. J
"I am the Lorax. I speak for the trees."
Jamie Hale wrote: How about ex-Best types? Yeah, I used to be the best, but I let myself go... Jamie Hale wrote: I look forward to all you can teach me about .NET. Don't fall for the 'managed memory' lie. It just means that if you leak memory, you'll only slow the PC to a crawl, without it ever crashing. Memory management was easier under C++. Christian I have drunk the cool-aid and found it wan and bitter. - Chris Maunder
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Jamie Hale wrote: How about ex-Best types? Yeah, I used to be the best, but I let myself go... Jamie Hale wrote: I look forward to all you can teach me about .NET. Don't fall for the 'managed memory' lie. It just means that if you leak memory, you'll only slow the PC to a crawl, without it ever crashing. Memory management was easier under C++. Christian I have drunk the cool-aid and found it wan and bitter. - Chris Maunder
Christian Graus wrote: Don't fall for the 'managed memory' lie. It just means that if you leak memory, you'll only slow the PC to a crawl, without it ever crashing. Memory management was easier under C++. Well, whether or not MS releases crap or the perfect environment, it's always marketed as the best thing since sliced bread. And, there will always be people that follow the marketing hype. For instance, Win95 was the best OS in the world (according to MS) when it released, but when Win98 released, Win95 was so troublesome with so many bugs - everyone should upgrade. Same thing with NT4. MS's most reliable OS! But, now it's been abandoned and MS claims there were too many bugs in NT4. Even .NET is over-hyped. Yes, it has some nice features, but it's not like MS cured cancer. And, what people don't realize about .NET and C#, is MS found a way to make your typical C++ developer come one step closer to becoming VB developers. All this additional "productivity" found with C# has been available in plain ol' VB for years - go figure. Jeremy Falcon
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Christian Graus wrote: Don't fall for the 'managed memory' lie. It just means that if you leak memory, you'll only slow the PC to a crawl, without it ever crashing. Memory management was easier under C++. Well, whether or not MS releases crap or the perfect environment, it's always marketed as the best thing since sliced bread. And, there will always be people that follow the marketing hype. For instance, Win95 was the best OS in the world (according to MS) when it released, but when Win98 released, Win95 was so troublesome with so many bugs - everyone should upgrade. Same thing with NT4. MS's most reliable OS! But, now it's been abandoned and MS claims there were too many bugs in NT4. Even .NET is over-hyped. Yes, it has some nice features, but it's not like MS cured cancer. And, what people don't realize about .NET and C#, is MS found a way to make your typical C++ developer come one step closer to becoming VB developers. All this additional "productivity" found with C# has been available in plain ol' VB for years - go figure. Jeremy Falcon
Jeremy Falcon wrote: Well, whether or not MS releases crap or the perfect environment, it's always marketed as the best thing since sliced bread. And, there will always be people that follow the marketing hype. Well, that's the nature of marketing, I guess :-) Jeremy Falcon wrote: or instance, Win95 was the best OS in the world (according to MS) when it released, but when Win98 released, Win95 was so troublesome with so many bugs - everyone should upgrade. Same thing with NT4. MS's most reliable OS! But, now it's been abandoned and MS claims there were too many bugs in NT4. LOL - I've never seen any marketing that says that the old code is full of bugs. That's a bit counter productive for them. That's brilliant. Jeremy Falcon wrote: And, what people don't realize about .NET and C#, is MS found a way to make your typical C++ developer come one step closer to becoming VB developers. Sadly, this is true. I like C#, but I can't help feel that it's made me dumber. And it's memory management model is a disaster. I hate it almost as much as I hate Managed Direct X. Christian I have drunk the cool-aid and found it wan and bitter. - Chris Maunder
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I've some good news on that front hun - I'm writing again! :-D Although I'm not getting time to post as much as I was and I'm having to leave a fair bit out (believe it or not my ex has been trying to use my journal against me) I'm committed to keeping it going. Once things in my life settle down a little more I hope I'll be able to be a little more open again. :) Anna :rose: Homepage | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work. Trouble with resource IDs? Try the Resource ID Organiser Visual C++ Add-In
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Jeremy Falcon wrote: Well, whether or not MS releases crap or the perfect environment, it's always marketed as the best thing since sliced bread. And, there will always be people that follow the marketing hype. Well, that's the nature of marketing, I guess :-) Jeremy Falcon wrote: or instance, Win95 was the best OS in the world (according to MS) when it released, but when Win98 released, Win95 was so troublesome with so many bugs - everyone should upgrade. Same thing with NT4. MS's most reliable OS! But, now it's been abandoned and MS claims there were too many bugs in NT4. LOL - I've never seen any marketing that says that the old code is full of bugs. That's a bit counter productive for them. That's brilliant. Jeremy Falcon wrote: And, what people don't realize about .NET and C#, is MS found a way to make your typical C++ developer come one step closer to becoming VB developers. Sadly, this is true. I like C#, but I can't help feel that it's made me dumber. And it's memory management model is a disaster. I hate it almost as much as I hate Managed Direct X. Christian I have drunk the cool-aid and found it wan and bitter. - Chris Maunder
Christian Graus wrote: LOL - I've never seen any marketing that says that the old code is full of bugs. That's a bit counter productive for them. That's brilliant. The time I have in my head was during the Win98 launch event, where they showed BillG claiming it was faster than Win95, and '95 sucked because they had to fix 4,000 bugs in Win95 for Win98. :) I have to hand it to MS though, they can market software like nobody's business. Jeremy Falcon
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Nope. Mississauga. :( I live in Markham. Hell of a commute. J
"I am the Lorax. I speak for the trees."
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Are you in Atlanta? :confused: I didn't realize until recently that Peachtree had been sold .. once again. When I worked for them, they were sold to ADP, but I lost track of them when I left in '96 (I was the lead programmer there for a couple of years). Cheers, Tom Archer "Use what talents you possess. The woods would be very silent if no birds sang there except those that sang best." - William Blake * Inside C# -Second Edition * Visual C++.NET Bible * Extending MFC Applications with the .NET Framework
Not in Atlanta. They just opened a new Canadian office and we're justing getting going. Peachtree is now owned by Best (owned by Sage in the UK), and Best owns most every small and mid-sized accounting package in North America. AccPac, Simply, MAS90, BusinessVision, Timberline(?), etc. So you know Seth? :) J
"I am the Lorax. I speak for the trees."
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Not in Atlanta. They just opened a new Canadian office and we're justing getting going. Peachtree is now owned by Best (owned by Sage in the UK), and Best owns most every small and mid-sized accounting package in North America. AccPac, Simply, MAS90, BusinessVision, Timberline(?), etc. So you know Seth? :) J
"I am the Lorax. I speak for the trees."
Jamie Hale wrote: So you know Seth? I don't know if he even remembers me as we never worked together, but Seth Pratt was the one who tech-interviewed me back in '95. He wrote the original Peachtree product in Modula2. A really nice guy and extremely intelligent. Cheers, Tom Archer "Use what talents you possess. The woods would be very silent if no birds sang there except those that sang best." - William Blake * Inside C# -Second Edition * Visual C++.NET Bible * Extending MFC Applications with the .NET Framework
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Jamie Hale wrote: So you know Seth? I don't know if he even remembers me as we never worked together, but Seth Pratt was the one who tech-interviewed me back in '95. He wrote the original Peachtree product in Modula2. A really nice guy and extremely intelligent. Cheers, Tom Archer "Use what talents you possess. The woods would be very silent if no birds sang there except those that sang best." - William Blake * Inside C# -Second Edition * Visual C++.NET Bible * Extending MFC Applications with the .NET Framework
:) That's him. 17-year old code base and he started it all. There are still C macros in there for some modula2 type things. J
"I am the Lorax. I speak for the trees."
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:) That's him. 17-year old code base and he started it all. There are still C macros in there for some modula2 type things. J
"I am the Lorax. I speak for the trees."
Have you met him? I would have thought he would have left a loooong time ago. As I mentioned, he's very cool and extremely humble for someone who's accomplished so much. My only regret at P'tree was not getting the opportunity to work with and learn from him. Cheers, Tom Archer "Use what talents you possess. The woods would be very silent if no birds sang there except those that sang best." - William Blake * Inside C# -Second Edition * Visual C++.NET Bible * Extending MFC Applications with the .NET Framework
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Have you met him? I would have thought he would have left a loooong time ago. As I mentioned, he's very cool and extremely humble for someone who's accomplished so much. My only regret at P'tree was not getting the opportunity to work with and learn from him. Cheers, Tom Archer "Use what talents you possess. The woods would be very silent if no birds sang there except those that sang best." - William Blake * Inside C# -Second Edition * Visual C++.NET Bible * Extending MFC Applications with the .NET Framework
He's still there. :) He does the "bootcamp" for new employees - accounting 101. His official title is "Distinguished Engineer" - I want - but he's still a big accounting geek. And yes, he's quite cool and very smart. I expect to learn a great deal from him. J
"I am the Lorax. I speak for the trees."
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He's still there. :) He does the "bootcamp" for new employees - accounting 101. His official title is "Distinguished Engineer" - I want - but he's still a big accounting geek. And yes, he's quite cool and very smart. I expect to learn a great deal from him. J
"I am the Lorax. I speak for the trees."
So is all of P'tree development there in Canada now?! I've worked for a lot of companies in my 20+ years and P'tree was the only place where we all felt like a family. It would be really weird to know that it's no longer just down the road. Cheers, Tom Archer "Use what talents you possess. The woods would be very silent if no birds sang there except those that sang best." - William Blake * Inside C# -Second Edition * Visual C++.NET Bible * Extending MFC Applications with the .NET Framework
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So is all of P'tree development there in Canada now?! I've worked for a lot of companies in my 20+ years and P'tree was the only place where we all felt like a family. It would be really weird to know that it's no longer just down the road. Cheers, Tom Archer "Use what talents you possess. The woods would be very silent if no birds sang there except those that sang best." - William Blake * Inside C# -Second Edition * Visual C++.NET Bible * Extending MFC Applications with the .NET Framework
No, it's kind of odd. The vast majority of the team is in Duluth. They're up to about 26 developers, ~30 QA, etc. We were just down there in time to watch Ivan tear the place apart. They've shipped their director of development up here to open a new, cheaper, office. I guess hiring folks is easier and less expensive in Toronto these days. The plans last I heard was to have a team 10 or 12 including devs, QA and designers. They're hiring down in Atlanta as well. All in all, a growing team. But you're right, it really does feel like a family. I really look forward to the work. J
"I am the Lorax. I speak for the trees."
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Howdy howdy. Remember me? :) Miss me? :jig: I'm back to Windows code now and figured it was time to get back to CP. What have I missed? Kidding. I'm working for these guys[^] now building this[^]. Any other Best Software lurkers out there? How about ex-Best types? :) Anyways, CP has been a terrific reference for me in the past, and I look forward to all you can teach me about .NET. J
"I am the Lorax. I speak for the trees."
Welcome home, Jamie... We've missed you. Can we expect a detailed report of your activities during your absence? It could make for an interesting read, depending upon how interesting your experience has been. "My kid was Inmate of the Month at Adobe Mountain Juvenile Corrections Center" - Bumper Sticker in Bullhead City
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I used to commute the other way - Mississauga to Markham. It wasn't much fun either. ...cmk Save the whales - collect the whole set
No, that would be worse! At least I'm going against traffic and away from the sun... J
"I am the Lorax. I speak for the trees."