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    Chris Maunder
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    Woohoo! - Fortran for Microsoft.NET. I've been waiting months for someone to write something about Fortran and .NET! Ah - the heady days of 10 page long subroutines and variables names such as aax are here again... cheers, Chris Maunder

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      Woohoo! - Fortran for Microsoft.NET. I've been waiting months for someone to write something about Fortran and .NET! Ah - the heady days of 10 page long subroutines and variables names such as aax are here again... cheers, Chris Maunder

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      Nish Nishant
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      Ouch!!! Double Ouch!!! Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut

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        Woohoo! - Fortran for Microsoft.NET. I've been waiting months for someone to write something about Fortran and .NET! Ah - the heady days of 10 page long subroutines and variables names such as aax are here again... cheers, Chris Maunder

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        Robert Dickenson
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        and variables names such as aax are here again... FORTRAN gave us all one good thing, defacto standard names for our loop counters... for (int i = 0; i < .....) *for (int j = 0; j < .....) **for (int k = 0; k < .....) Who ever wondered why we use i, then j, then k etc ? (I'm assuming this is not mentioned in K&R, having never read them) *Ok, so what's the html tag for a tab ? sonork ID: 100.9940

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          Ouch!!! Double Ouch!!! Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut

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          Robert Dickenson
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          REAL Ouch!!! Is the FORTRAN compiler part of VS7 or is this an extra product? Thanks, Robert. sonork ID: 100.9940

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            REAL Ouch!!! Is the FORTRAN compiler part of VS7 or is this an extra product? Thanks, Robert. sonork ID: 100.9940

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            Robert Dickenson
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            Is the FORTRAN compiler part of VS7 or is this an extra product? Just reading the article and note that it's actually a third-party add-on. Oh well, would have been nice if the VS7 upgrade included a new language worth using. ;P Robert. sonork ID: 100.9940

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              REAL Ouch!!! Is the FORTRAN compiler part of VS7 or is this an extra product? Thanks, Robert. sonork ID: 100.9940

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              Nish Nishant
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              Robert Dickenson wrote: REAL Ouch!!! :-) I can imagine Chris watching all these posts and comments in utter despair. The poor lad posted that fortran.NET post thinking that everyone is gonna be as thrilled as he was and are gonna say,"well done mate" and other aussie congratulatory stuff :-) What does he find instead? He finds people comin and OUCHing all over the fortran thing LOL Nish p.s. What we need now is Paul comin on and telling us that fortran.net is a Microsoft ploy to steal VB.NET programmers :-) Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut

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                and variables names such as aax are here again... FORTRAN gave us all one good thing, defacto standard names for our loop counters... for (int i = 0; i < .....) *for (int j = 0; j < .....) **for (int k = 0; k < .....) Who ever wondered why we use i, then j, then k etc ? (I'm assuming this is not mentioned in K&R, having never read them) *Ok, so what's the html tag for a tab ? sonork ID: 100.9940

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                Nish Nishant
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                You can use this for tab :-      Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut

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                  Is the FORTRAN compiler part of VS7 or is this an extra product? Just reading the article and note that it's actually a third-party add-on. Oh well, would have been nice if the VS7 upgrade included a new language worth using. ;P Robert. sonork ID: 100.9940

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                  Nish Nishant
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                  Robert Dickenson wrote: Oh well, would have been nice if the VS7 upgrade included a new language worth using. Nooooooooooooo. VC++, C# and VB will do fine. Imagine what would happen if they were allowed to pack all their alpha and pre-beta compilers into VS. We'd soon be having VS.NET come in 4 DVDs with some 200 MS trial-compilers,SDKs and stuff. Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut

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                  • C Chris Maunder

                    Woohoo! - Fortran for Microsoft.NET. I've been waiting months for someone to write something about Fortran and .NET! Ah - the heady days of 10 page long subroutines and variables names such as aax are here again... cheers, Chris Maunder

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                    Fazlul Kabir
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                    Fortran is the language that I personally used to get on programming back in early eighties. I still can remember those days when programming was a real pain in the neck. We used to submit our Fortran77 routines in a homongous 10(?) inch diskette to our mainframe administrator and when we got the output some 12 hours later, it was often a huge list of compiler errors. Things however got better later when PC replaced mainframe and C++ invaded engineering apps. Other than familiarity with a once popular language sysntax, I wonder why people would be interested in using Fortran.NET? The reason Fortran and other Fortran-like C++ compilers (e.g. Blitz++) are so popular is that they all use highly optimized, blazing fast native compilers. I wonder how hardcore Fortran developers will feel when they will be asked to leave their world class compilers behind and instead compile their programs with a much sluggish managed framework. // Fazlul


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                      Fortran is the language that I personally used to get on programming back in early eighties. I still can remember those days when programming was a real pain in the neck. We used to submit our Fortran77 routines in a homongous 10(?) inch diskette to our mainframe administrator and when we got the output some 12 hours later, it was often a huge list of compiler errors. Things however got better later when PC replaced mainframe and C++ invaded engineering apps. Other than familiarity with a once popular language sysntax, I wonder why people would be interested in using Fortran.NET? The reason Fortran and other Fortran-like C++ compilers (e.g. Blitz++) are so popular is that they all use highly optimized, blazing fast native compilers. I wonder how hardcore Fortran developers will feel when they will be asked to leave their world class compilers behind and instead compile their programs with a much sluggish managed framework. // Fazlul


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                      The one good thing/maybe bad thing that Fortran did for C programmers is that it gave them a sorta moral right to use i,j,k as count/loop variables overriding all coding standards :-) Wonder what the next thing Chris will get thrilled about? I hope it won;t be a COBOL based .NET article which will prolly lead to Y3K.NET probs :-) Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut

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                        You can use this for tab :-      Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut

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                        Robert Dickenson
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                        And so why doesn't that look like:      <- 4 tabs (spaces?) here when you write it? ie (how to quote the html tags) Thanks, Robert. sonork ID: 100.9940

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                          And so why doesn't that look like:      <- 4 tabs (spaces?) here when you write it? ie (how to quote the html tags) Thanks, Robert. sonork ID: 100.9940

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                          because I wrote it as &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; which gets translated to      Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut

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                            Fortran is the language that I personally used to get on programming back in early eighties. I still can remember those days when programming was a real pain in the neck. We used to submit our Fortran77 routines in a homongous 10(?) inch diskette to our mainframe administrator and when we got the output some 12 hours later, it was often a huge list of compiler errors. Things however got better later when PC replaced mainframe and C++ invaded engineering apps. Other than familiarity with a once popular language sysntax, I wonder why people would be interested in using Fortran.NET? The reason Fortran and other Fortran-like C++ compilers (e.g. Blitz++) are so popular is that they all use highly optimized, blazing fast native compilers. I wonder how hardcore Fortran developers will feel when they will be asked to leave their world class compilers behind and instead compile their programs with a much sluggish managed framework. // Fazlul


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                            I have no idea why anyone would use Fortran.NET. The only Fortran that I ever see is either legacy code, or code being developed by engineers writing hard-core mathematis or physics solvers that have either no UI, or have all the UI done in some other language. I guess this will allow people to solve differential equations on the web. :laugh: The early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

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                              Fortran is the language that I personally used to get on programming back in early eighties. I still can remember those days when programming was a real pain in the neck. We used to submit our Fortran77 routines in a homongous 10(?) inch diskette to our mainframe administrator and when we got the output some 12 hours later, it was often a huge list of compiler errors. Things however got better later when PC replaced mainframe and C++ invaded engineering apps. Other than familiarity with a once popular language sysntax, I wonder why people would be interested in using Fortran.NET? The reason Fortran and other Fortran-like C++ compilers (e.g. Blitz++) are so popular is that they all use highly optimized, blazing fast native compilers. I wonder how hardcore Fortran developers will feel when they will be asked to leave their world class compilers behind and instead compile their programs with a much sluggish managed framework. // Fazlul


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                              If Fortran was included and integrated into VS so one could easily call Fortran routines from C++ and vise-versa would be really cool for me. I have a *large* collection of FORTRAN/C++ routines which I currently use in this manner with gcc. It would be nice to use this stuff on Win32 as well. Anybody used Fortran-90 ? Robert. sonork ID: 100.9940

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                                I have no idea why anyone would use Fortran.NET. The only Fortran that I ever see is either legacy code, or code being developed by engineers writing hard-core mathematis or physics solvers that have either no UI, or have all the UI done in some other language. I guess this will allow people to solve differential equations on the web. :laugh: The early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

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                                Navin wrote: I have no idea why anyone would use Fortran.NET As a really cruel form of capital punishment. Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut

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                                  The one good thing/maybe bad thing that Fortran did for C programmers is that it gave them a sorta moral right to use i,j,k as count/loop variables overriding all coding standards :-) Wonder what the next thing Chris will get thrilled about? I hope it won;t be a COBOL based .NET article which will prolly lead to Y3K.NET probs :-) Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut

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                                  I understand why Chris and others are interested in Microsoft's .NET initiative. There can be several reasons for it. One is the simplicity of the framework and the other can be a unified programming model shared by all langauges. I too like these features. In fact we are modifying our MFC/ATL based RAD framework so that it can comply fully with the namespaces/classes/properties/events/methods found in .NET. This would hopefully give us the best of both worlds, the power of native C++ and the ease of using .NET // Fazlul


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                                    I understand why Chris and others are interested in Microsoft's .NET initiative. There can be several reasons for it. One is the simplicity of the framework and the other can be a unified programming model shared by all langauges. I too like these features. In fact we are modifying our MFC/ATL based RAD framework so that it can comply fully with the namespaces/classes/properties/events/methods found in .NET. This would hopefully give us the best of both worlds, the power of native C++ and the ease of using .NET // Fazlul


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                                    Fazlul Kabir wrote: In fact we are modifying our MFC/ATL based RAD framework so that it can comply fully with the namespaces/classes/properties/events/methods found in .NET. This would hopefully give us the best of both worlds, the power of native C++ and the ease of using .NET Oh! That's cool. Good luck! Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut

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                                      Fazlul Kabir wrote: In fact we are modifying our MFC/ATL based RAD framework so that it can comply fully with the namespaces/classes/properties/events/methods found in .NET. This would hopefully give us the best of both worlds, the power of native C++ and the ease of using .NET Oh! That's cool. Good luck! Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut

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                                      I saw some good articles you wrote using MC++.NET, so I am not surprised that you are interested in this. Think this, the code you have written in MC++ get straight compiled to MFC/ATL with VERY minor changes (one new namespace and a few includes). Wouldn't that be fun? // Fazlul


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                                        because I wrote it as &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; which gets translated to      Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut

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                                        Which begs the question... Never mind, i'll work this one out for myself: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Got-it. Been a long time now since I did any html. I'd rather be writing regular expressions. :rolleyes: Cheers, Robert. sonork ID: 100.9940

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                                          I saw some good articles you wrote using MC++.NET, so I am not surprised that you are interested in this. Think this, the code you have written in MC++ get straight compiled to MFC/ATL with VERY minor changes (one new namespace and a few includes). Wouldn't that be fun? // Fazlul


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                                          Fazlul Kabir wrote: Wouldn't that be fun? If it works, that would be fun; good fun indeed! Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut

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