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  • P Paul Watson

    I had a friend who applied for a part-time job at a clothing store, and she was given a personality test called an "honesty test." She actually failed it, because of a question like "Everybody lies sometimes." She said yes. She didn't get the job and was told that part of the reason was that she had failed the honesty test, because you were supposed to say, "No, I don't lie. People don't lie." from Yes, I've had tarry bowel movements! So what? on Salon. An article on the scourge of personality tests. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Michael Dunn wrote: "except the sod who voted this a 1, NO SOUP FOR YOU" Crikey! ain't life grand?

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    Michael Hendrickx
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    Well, by saying "no", you'd lie as well.. It's a tricky and dirty question. Sorry to hear that about your friend.

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    • P Paul Watson

      I had a friend who applied for a part-time job at a clothing store, and she was given a personality test called an "honesty test." She actually failed it, because of a question like "Everybody lies sometimes." She said yes. She didn't get the job and was told that part of the reason was that she had failed the honesty test, because you were supposed to say, "No, I don't lie. People don't lie." from Yes, I've had tarry bowel movements! So what? on Salon. An article on the scourge of personality tests. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Michael Dunn wrote: "except the sod who voted this a 1, NO SOUP FOR YOU" Crikey! ain't life grand?

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      Kirk: Harry lied to you, Norman. Everything Harry says is a lie. Remember that, Norman. *Everything* he says is a lie. Mudd: Now I want you to listen to me very carefully, Norman. I'm... lying. Norman: You say you are lying, but if everything you say is a lie, then you are telling the truth, but you cannot tell the truth because you always lie... illogical! Illogical! Please explain! You are human; only humans can explain! Illogical! Kirk: I am not programmed to respond in that area. Michael CP Blog [^]

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      • M Michael Hendrickx

        Well, by saying "no", you'd lie as well.. It's a tricky and dirty question. Sorry to hear that about your friend.

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        Paul Watson
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        It was a quote from the article. Not my friend. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Michael Dunn wrote: "except the sod who voted this a 1, NO SOUP FOR YOU" Crikey! ain't life grand?

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        • P Paul Watson

          I had a friend who applied for a part-time job at a clothing store, and she was given a personality test called an "honesty test." She actually failed it, because of a question like "Everybody lies sometimes." She said yes. She didn't get the job and was told that part of the reason was that she had failed the honesty test, because you were supposed to say, "No, I don't lie. People don't lie." from Yes, I've had tarry bowel movements! So what? on Salon. An article on the scourge of personality tests. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Michael Dunn wrote: "except the sod who voted this a 1, NO SOUP FOR YOU" Crikey! ain't life grand?

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          Andy Brummer
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          I was rejected from a job because of a personality test like that. Very few of the questions are that unambiguous. I didn't have a problem with being rejected because of the test. However, then gave it to me after two technical screenings that I passed with no problems. Essentailly they waited to give me a 15 minute test until after they wasted a month of both of our time. :mad:


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          • N Navin

            Nonetheless, not only do people lie sometimes, they lie most of the time! Remember, the noun 'lie' has at least two meanings. That's a lie. :-D An expert is somebody who learns more and more about less and less, until he knows absolutely everything about nothing.

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            Navin wrote: That's a lie. No, it's factual.


            "When I was born I was so surprised that I didn't talk for a year and a half." - Gracie Allen

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            • P Paul Watson

              I had a friend who applied for a part-time job at a clothing store, and she was given a personality test called an "honesty test." She actually failed it, because of a question like "Everybody lies sometimes." She said yes. She didn't get the job and was told that part of the reason was that she had failed the honesty test, because you were supposed to say, "No, I don't lie. People don't lie." from Yes, I've had tarry bowel movements! So what? on Salon. An article on the scourge of personality tests. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Michael Dunn wrote: "except the sod who voted this a 1, NO SOUP FOR YOU" Crikey! ain't life grand?

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              When I was in college, I remember the professor talking about psychological tests. He says they usually add a few absolute questions just to see how honest the test-taker was being. By "absolute" questions, I mean questions like, "I never lie." If someone answers "yes" to that question, they assume they are dishonest because they figure that everyone lies sometimes. The "Everybody lies sometimes" question sounds like one of those absolute questions that any honest person would answer "yes" to. It sounds like the business was reading that question in exactly the opposite way than psychologists would. ----------------------------------------------------- Empires Of Steel[^]

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              • D David Crow

                Paul Watson wrote: ...because of a question like "Everybody lies sometimes." She said yes. So what was the question? Nonetheless, not only do people lie sometimes, they lie most of the time! Remember, the noun 'lie' has at least two meanings.


                "When I was born I was so surprised that I didn't talk for a year and a half." - Gracie Allen

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                And I think its a verb.

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                • B Brian Delahunty

                  Well.. if she said yes.. then she should fail the test... Because "everybody" includes her... and if everyboyd lies sometime, then so does she, so she must be dishonest at some stage.. so she failed her honesty test. Anyway, personality tests are, as you say, a scourge IMHO. Regards, Brian Dela :-) http://www.briandela.com IE 6 required.
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                  Brian Delahunty wrote: if she said yes.. then she should fail the test... If I was the interviewer, and she said yes, she could pass the test. Every body must have lied in his/her life, at least once. Anybody who never lied, reply this


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                  • J Jeff Bogan

                    And I think its a verb.

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                    Right. It's also a noun.


                    "When I was born I was so surprised that I didn't talk for a year and a half." - Gracie Allen

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                    • P Paul Watson

                      I had a friend who applied for a part-time job at a clothing store, and she was given a personality test called an "honesty test." She actually failed it, because of a question like "Everybody lies sometimes." She said yes. She didn't get the job and was told that part of the reason was that she had failed the honesty test, because you were supposed to say, "No, I don't lie. People don't lie." from Yes, I've had tarry bowel movements! So what? on Salon. An article on the scourge of personality tests. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Michael Dunn wrote: "except the sod who voted this a 1, NO SOUP FOR YOU" Crikey! ain't life grand?

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                      I would think that only pathological liars, or naive idiots, would answer FALSE to that question. Rather odd screening test for a p/t job in a clothes store. More appropriate for politicians, I would have thought. Or would that be negative screening to only let the pathological liars through? Debbie

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