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Hi all, While a freshman in college back in '84, I was approached about a programming job for Holiday on Ice in Amsterdam. Needless to say, I jumped at it and never looked back. On and off over the years, I've thought about returning and getting my degree (for personal reasons much more than anything else). Does anyone here know of an accredited univeristy that would be good for a 40 y/o to go back and get his bachelor's? I have looked at some places like Phoenix and Devry, but they're saying that it would take 3 years! That would also mean taking classes that I could teach myself. Anytime you go to school there are time when you know what is being taught beforehand, but I just can't fathom not only sitting through, but paying for, classes like "Introduction to Data Processing" or "COBOL Basics". Isn't there something available for those of us who've been doing this for a very long time such that we can get credit for our "life work"? Cheers, Tom Archer "Use what talents you possess. The woods would be very silent if no birds sang there except those that sang best." - William Blake * Inside C# -Second Edition * Visual C++.NET Bible * Extending MFC Applications with the .NET Framework
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Hi all, While a freshman in college back in '84, I was approached about a programming job for Holiday on Ice in Amsterdam. Needless to say, I jumped at it and never looked back. On and off over the years, I've thought about returning and getting my degree (for personal reasons much more than anything else). Does anyone here know of an accredited univeristy that would be good for a 40 y/o to go back and get his bachelor's? I have looked at some places like Phoenix and Devry, but they're saying that it would take 3 years! That would also mean taking classes that I could teach myself. Anytime you go to school there are time when you know what is being taught beforehand, but I just can't fathom not only sitting through, but paying for, classes like "Introduction to Data Processing" or "COBOL Basics". Isn't there something available for those of us who've been doing this for a very long time such that we can get credit for our "life work"? Cheers, Tom Archer "Use what talents you possess. The woods would be very silent if no birds sang there except those that sang best." - William Blake * Inside C# -Second Edition * Visual C++.NET Bible * Extending MFC Applications with the .NET Framework
Tom, Unsure if they exist in the USA. But take a look for Graduate Diploma, and Post Graduate Diploma programs. The trick is that you can be let in with industry type experience counting towards credits. So for a Bachelors program you only need the last yrs work for an equivalent degree. I have just finished a Post Grad degree that took a while part-time and may do a Masters shortly. Regardz Colin J Davies Attention: It's finally arrived, The worlds first DSP.
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Hi all, While a freshman in college back in '84, I was approached about a programming job for Holiday on Ice in Amsterdam. Needless to say, I jumped at it and never looked back. On and off over the years, I've thought about returning and getting my degree (for personal reasons much more than anything else). Does anyone here know of an accredited univeristy that would be good for a 40 y/o to go back and get his bachelor's? I have looked at some places like Phoenix and Devry, but they're saying that it would take 3 years! That would also mean taking classes that I could teach myself. Anytime you go to school there are time when you know what is being taught beforehand, but I just can't fathom not only sitting through, but paying for, classes like "Introduction to Data Processing" or "COBOL Basics". Isn't there something available for those of us who've been doing this for a very long time such that we can get credit for our "life work"? Cheers, Tom Archer "Use what talents you possess. The woods would be very silent if no birds sang there except those that sang best." - William Blake * Inside C# -Second Edition * Visual C++.NET Bible * Extending MFC Applications with the .NET Framework
Hi tom i'd have a yarn with the university's computer science (assuming its CS you want to do) department I think you'll find you'll be "excused" a fair number of classes in your case ;) Certainly at Otago University in NZ it was not uncommon for more advanced students to go straight from school to 2nd year courses in many subjects (physics, computer science and others....) One would assume you're a little more advanced than most ;) cheers Bryce --- To paraphrase Fred Dagg - the views expressed in this post are bloody good ones. --
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Tom, Unsure if they exist in the USA. But take a look for Graduate Diploma, and Post Graduate Diploma programs. The trick is that you can be let in with industry type experience counting towards credits. So for a Bachelors program you only need the last yrs work for an equivalent degree. I have just finished a Post Grad degree that took a while part-time and may do a Masters shortly. Regardz Colin J Davies Attention: It's finally arrived, The worlds first DSP.
So far the ones that I've called are telling me that I can't get a post grad degree before I get bachelor's degree. I'll keep looking though and have an appt for next week with one. Thanks Colin. Cheers, Tom Archer "Use what talents you possess. The woods would be very silent if no birds sang there except those that sang best." - William Blake * Inside C# -Second Edition * Visual C++.NET Bible * Extending MFC Applications with the .NET Framework
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Hi tom i'd have a yarn with the university's computer science (assuming its CS you want to do) department I think you'll find you'll be "excused" a fair number of classes in your case ;) Certainly at Otago University in NZ it was not uncommon for more advanced students to go straight from school to 2nd year courses in many subjects (physics, computer science and others....) One would assume you're a little more advanced than most ;) cheers Bryce --- To paraphrase Fred Dagg - the views expressed in this post are bloody good ones. --
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Thanks Bryce :) I'm hoping so. I'm meeting an "academic advisor" on Tuesday. Hopefully, I can at least bypass a fair amount of the basic courses. Cheers, Tom Archer "Use what talents you possess. The woods would be very silent if no birds sang there except those that sang best." - William Blake * Inside C# -Second Edition * Visual C++.NET Bible * Extending MFC Applications with the .NET Framework
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So far the ones that I've called are telling me that I can't get a post grad degree before I get bachelor's degree. I'll keep looking though and have an appt for next week with one. Thanks Colin. Cheers, Tom Archer "Use what talents you possess. The woods would be very silent if no birds sang there except those that sang best." - William Blake * Inside C# -Second Edition * Visual C++.NET Bible * Extending MFC Applications with the .NET Framework
Similar to what Bryce said. - Sure meet with the Academic Advisor. And get a meeting with the Dean, or even Chancellor. Take along a couple of your books. etc as well. - Certainly a university's aims are to take money of students and sponsors, as well as maintain a standard. - If they believe you will be a low maintenance student, your chances will be better. - Also I doubt they ever advertise alternative entrance routes such as 'Deans Discretion'. Regardz Colin J Davies Attention: It's finally arrived, The worlds first DSP.
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Hi all, While a freshman in college back in '84, I was approached about a programming job for Holiday on Ice in Amsterdam. Needless to say, I jumped at it and never looked back. On and off over the years, I've thought about returning and getting my degree (for personal reasons much more than anything else). Does anyone here know of an accredited univeristy that would be good for a 40 y/o to go back and get his bachelor's? I have looked at some places like Phoenix and Devry, but they're saying that it would take 3 years! That would also mean taking classes that I could teach myself. Anytime you go to school there are time when you know what is being taught beforehand, but I just can't fathom not only sitting through, but paying for, classes like "Introduction to Data Processing" or "COBOL Basics". Isn't there something available for those of us who've been doing this for a very long time such that we can get credit for our "life work"? Cheers, Tom Archer "Use what talents you possess. The woods would be very silent if no birds sang there except those that sang best." - William Blake * Inside C# -Second Edition * Visual C++.NET Bible * Extending MFC Applications with the .NET Framework
... and just to add to what the others have said, some college departments have placement exams for various courses... for instance, I took one to get out of the entry-level CS class back "in the day". :) So you might be able to get out of a lot of the fluff that way... An expert is somebody who learns more and more about less and less, until he knows absolutely everything about nothing.
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Thanks Bryce :) I'm hoping so. I'm meeting an "academic advisor" on Tuesday. Hopefully, I can at least bypass a fair amount of the basic courses. Cheers, Tom Archer "Use what talents you possess. The woods would be very silent if no birds sang there except those that sang best." - William Blake * Inside C# -Second Edition * Visual C++.NET Bible * Extending MFC Applications with the .NET Framework
Slip the bugger a copy of one of ya books and ask if he wants it signed, that ought to get you a few credits ;) Bryce i used to be a lab tutor type bloke at the physics dept. Part of the student's final mark was based on exercises in the labs which we marked. My mate Criag and I used to openly declare we were corrupt and bribes were encouraged. One day we were 1/2 way through our speil about suggested bribes (beer etc) when the Head Of Department walked in - laughed at us and then walked out. I think the students always thought we were joking about the bribes...*sigh* --- To paraphrase Fred Dagg - the views expressed in this post are bloody good ones. --
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Hi all, While a freshman in college back in '84, I was approached about a programming job for Holiday on Ice in Amsterdam. Needless to say, I jumped at it and never looked back. On and off over the years, I've thought about returning and getting my degree (for personal reasons much more than anything else). Does anyone here know of an accredited univeristy that would be good for a 40 y/o to go back and get his bachelor's? I have looked at some places like Phoenix and Devry, but they're saying that it would take 3 years! That would also mean taking classes that I could teach myself. Anytime you go to school there are time when you know what is being taught beforehand, but I just can't fathom not only sitting through, but paying for, classes like "Introduction to Data Processing" or "COBOL Basics". Isn't there something available for those of us who've been doing this for a very long time such that we can get credit for our "life work"? Cheers, Tom Archer "Use what talents you possess. The woods would be very silent if no birds sang there except those that sang best." - William Blake * Inside C# -Second Edition * Visual C++.NET Bible * Extending MFC Applications with the .NET Framework
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Hi all, While a freshman in college back in '84, I was approached about a programming job for Holiday on Ice in Amsterdam. Needless to say, I jumped at it and never looked back. On and off over the years, I've thought about returning and getting my degree (for personal reasons much more than anything else). Does anyone here know of an accredited univeristy that would be good for a 40 y/o to go back and get his bachelor's? I have looked at some places like Phoenix and Devry, but they're saying that it would take 3 years! That would also mean taking classes that I could teach myself. Anytime you go to school there are time when you know what is being taught beforehand, but I just can't fathom not only sitting through, but paying for, classes like "Introduction to Data Processing" or "COBOL Basics". Isn't there something available for those of us who've been doing this for a very long time such that we can get credit for our "life work"? Cheers, Tom Archer "Use what talents you possess. The woods would be very silent if no birds sang there except those that sang best." - William Blake * Inside C# -Second Edition * Visual C++.NET Bible * Extending MFC Applications with the .NET Framework
I can just imagine it now "This week's assignment is to write a programming book....and no copying Tom's work" *chortle* bryce --- To paraphrase Fred Dagg - the views expressed in this post are bloody good ones. --
Publitor, making Pubmed easy. http://www.sohocode.com/publitorOur kids book :The Snot Goblin
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I can just imagine it now "This week's assignment is to write a programming book....and no copying Tom's work" *chortle* bryce --- To paraphrase Fred Dagg - the views expressed in this post are bloody good ones. --
Publitor, making Pubmed easy. http://www.sohocode.com/publitorOur kids book :The Snot Goblin
If Tom turned in his book, would the instructor charge him with plagiarism because he wrote the book before the assignment was given??? Steve
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If Tom turned in his book, would the instructor charge him with plagiarism because he wrote the book before the assignment was given??? Steve
i dunno but i reckon it might be a bit intimidating with him in your class (as a lecturer) i bet hes a smartypants and throws paper darts and stuff too you know the..."i wrote the textbook" kinda kid :wtf: Bryce --- To paraphrase Fred Dagg - the views expressed in this post are bloody good ones. --
Publitor, making Pubmed easy. http://www.sohocode.com/publitorOur kids book :The Snot Goblin
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If Tom turned in his book, would the instructor charge him with plagiarism because he wrote the book before the assignment was given??? Steve
Steve Mayfield wrote: If Tom turned in his book, would the instructor charge him with plagiarism because he wrote the book before the assignment was given??? Probably. Most places require not only that the assignment is the authors' own work, but that it was done in the same amount of time given to everyone else - between when the assignment was handed out, and when it was due by.
Ryan
"Punctuality is only a virtue for those who aren't smart enough to think of good excuses for being late" John Nichol "Point Of Impact"
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I can just imagine it now "This week's assignment is to write a programming book....and no copying Tom's work" *chortle* bryce --- To paraphrase Fred Dagg - the views expressed in this post are bloody good ones. --
Publitor, making Pubmed easy. http://www.sohocode.com/publitorOur kids book :The Snot Goblin
What if they use one of his books for the class :) Pankaj /** I'm the one who's gonna have to die When it's time for me to die So let me live my life The way I want to - Jimi Hendrix */
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Hi all, While a freshman in college back in '84, I was approached about a programming job for Holiday on Ice in Amsterdam. Needless to say, I jumped at it and never looked back. On and off over the years, I've thought about returning and getting my degree (for personal reasons much more than anything else). Does anyone here know of an accredited univeristy that would be good for a 40 y/o to go back and get his bachelor's? I have looked at some places like Phoenix and Devry, but they're saying that it would take 3 years! That would also mean taking classes that I could teach myself. Anytime you go to school there are time when you know what is being taught beforehand, but I just can't fathom not only sitting through, but paying for, classes like "Introduction to Data Processing" or "COBOL Basics". Isn't there something available for those of us who've been doing this for a very long time such that we can get credit for our "life work"? Cheers, Tom Archer "Use what talents you possess. The woods would be very silent if no birds sang there except those that sang best." - William Blake * Inside C# -Second Edition * Visual C++.NET Bible * Extending MFC Applications with the .NET Framework
Tom, I'm in a (vaguely) similar position. I'm in the UK and went to uni. but there wasn't a digital course, only electrical and electronics. In the first year I learnt nothing knew other than I could b*ll***t my way through physics orals without trying and help the post graduates get their projects working so when someone offered me a job I just took it. Now the site here is closing and I'm looking for a new job most places won't even look at my CV unless I have a degree even though it would have been over 20 years ago and irrelevant to anything I'm doing ! I have an interview on Monday and the guy interviewing me was in a similar position to me and the compant sponsored him through a degree at the Open Univeristy. This is an institution in the UK aimed at mature students and most of the course work is done at home but it does take several years like any other degree. The way I look at it, get myself settled, look at getting a piece of paper for the future and try and choose the course so there will be something useful in it. I'm afraid sometimes it's necassary to play the game. Elaine :rose: The tigress is here :-D
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Hi all, While a freshman in college back in '84, I was approached about a programming job for Holiday on Ice in Amsterdam. Needless to say, I jumped at it and never looked back. On and off over the years, I've thought about returning and getting my degree (for personal reasons much more than anything else). Does anyone here know of an accredited univeristy that would be good for a 40 y/o to go back and get his bachelor's? I have looked at some places like Phoenix and Devry, but they're saying that it would take 3 years! That would also mean taking classes that I could teach myself. Anytime you go to school there are time when you know what is being taught beforehand, but I just can't fathom not only sitting through, but paying for, classes like "Introduction to Data Processing" or "COBOL Basics". Isn't there something available for those of us who've been doing this for a very long time such that we can get credit for our "life work"? Cheers, Tom Archer "Use what talents you possess. The woods would be very silent if no birds sang there except those that sang best." - William Blake * Inside C# -Second Edition * Visual C++.NET Bible * Extending MFC Applications with the .NET Framework
Man, congrats for that decission you've made in returning back. I'm doing the same thing. Good Luck !!! Free your mind...
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I can just imagine it now "This week's assignment is to write a programming book....and no copying Tom's work" *chortle* bryce --- To paraphrase Fred Dagg - the views expressed in this post are bloody good ones. --
Publitor, making Pubmed easy. http://www.sohocode.com/publitorOur kids book :The Snot Goblin
ROTFL! Cheers, Tom Archer "Use what talents you possess. The woods would be very silent if no birds sang there except those that sang best." - William Blake * Inside C# -Second Edition * Visual C++.NET Bible * Extending MFC Applications with the .NET Framework
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i dunno but i reckon it might be a bit intimidating with him in your class (as a lecturer) i bet hes a smartypants and throws paper darts and stuff too you know the..."i wrote the textbook" kinda kid :wtf: Bryce --- To paraphrase Fred Dagg - the views expressed in this post are bloody good ones. --
Publitor, making Pubmed easy. http://www.sohocode.com/publitorOur kids book :The Snot Goblin
True story: When I attended my first and only semester of college, I took a course in Intro to DP. I had just started learning how to program, but like a lot of ppl here was incredibly hooked and doing it every waking moment. Anyway, I was definitely one of those ppl that asked a million questions about everything. It got to the point where it was obviously bothering others and someone asked that I stop asking questions as "the rest of us are just here for the credits" :-O Cheers, Tom Archer "Use what talents you possess. The woods would be very silent if no birds sang there except those that sang best." - William Blake * Inside C# -Second Edition * Visual C++.NET Bible * Extending MFC Applications with the .NET Framework
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Steve Mayfield wrote: If Tom turned in his book, would the instructor charge him with plagiarism because he wrote the book before the assignment was given??? Probably. Most places require not only that the assignment is the authors' own work, but that it was done in the same amount of time given to everyone else - between when the assignment was handed out, and when it was due by.
Ryan
"Punctuality is only a virtue for those who aren't smart enough to think of good excuses for being late" John Nichol "Point Of Impact"
Reminds me of those cases where a print journalists gets nailed for plagiarizing their own work by recycling old material :) Cheers, Tom Archer "Use what talents you possess. The woods would be very silent if no birds sang there except those that sang best." - William Blake * Inside C# -Second Edition * Visual C++.NET Bible * Extending MFC Applications with the .NET Framework
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What if they use one of his books for the class :) Pankaj /** I'm the one who's gonna have to die When it's time for me to die So let me live my life The way I want to - Jimi Hendrix */
That would be freakin' hilarious :) Actually, I would be kinda embarrassed at first and then very appreciative and proud that they selected my book out of all the available texts. Cheers, Tom Archer "Use what talents you possess. The woods would be very silent if no birds sang there except those that sang best." - William Blake * Inside C# -Second Edition * Visual C++.NET Bible * Extending MFC Applications with the .NET Framework