Do you have a product that we could sell?
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Why would I consider using your services when it is clear that you are too cheap to pay for advetising on this site? Why would anyone waste time arguing with an accountant about anything? Their sole function is to record what happenned, and any higher aspirations are mere delusions of grandeur. On the ladder of productive contributions they are the little rubber pads at the bottom that keep the thing from sliding out from under you. - Roger Wright
Don't get me wrong. I really love this site - it is one of my favorite coding sites. The answer to your question is because advertising is not always the best way to spend marketing dollars. In general, you have to look at Return On Investment (ROI).
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Wow! I though this was the lounge and what I posted was reasonable. I guess I have aggravated some people. Marc - Feel free to delete my post if you think it is inappropriate.
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Don't get me wrong. I really love this site - it is one of my favorite coding sites. The answer to your question is because advertising is not always the best way to spend marketing dollars. In general, you have to look at Return On Investment (ROI).
Roger Jack wrote: In general, you have to look at Return On Investment (ROI). One can therefore conclude, since you are seeking free advertising, that your ROI is 0. ZERO. A further detraction to the services you offer. :laugh: Marc MyXaml Advanced Unit Testing
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Roger Jack wrote: In general, you have to look at Return On Investment (ROI). One can therefore conclude, since you are seeking free advertising, that your ROI is 0. ZERO. A further detraction to the services you offer. :laugh: Marc MyXaml Advanced Unit Testing
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Roger Jack wrote: In general, you have to look at Return On Investment (ROI). One can therefore conclude, since you are seeking free advertising, that your ROI is 0. ZERO. A further detraction to the services you offer. :laugh: Marc MyXaml Advanced Unit Testing
Marc, Huh? That makes no sense. I didn't say that we do no advertising, just not here. According to your logic, every tool vendor should advertise here because they would get clear ROI, right? Why don't they? Because the cost of advertising is greater than the sales they would receive. Look Marc, if you don't like what I posted, then please just delete it, instead of insulting us. I will no longer provide financial support for this site. Thanks!
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Marc, Huh? That makes no sense. I didn't say that we do no advertising, just not here. According to your logic, every tool vendor should advertise here because they would get clear ROI, right? Why don't they? Because the cost of advertising is greater than the sales they would receive. Look Marc, if you don't like what I posted, then please just delete it, instead of insulting us. I will no longer provide financial support for this site. Thanks!
I think that what has not been said is that people here prefer descrete advertising in the forums. For example as a link in a signature of a post. And that the post should be on topic for the discussion. If you look at Marc's post (and many others, including myself) they have links to their product(s)/service(s) in their signature which is unobtrusive. A post that has no other function than to sell a product is often viewed with hostility (as you have found).
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Marc, Huh? That makes no sense. I didn't say that we do no advertising, just not here. According to your logic, every tool vendor should advertise here because they would get clear ROI, right? Why don't they? Because the cost of advertising is greater than the sales they would receive. Look Marc, if you don't like what I posted, then please just delete it, instead of insulting us. I will no longer provide financial support for this site. Thanks!
Roger Jack wrote: According to your logic, every tool vendor should advertise here because they would get clear ROI, right? Why don't they? Because the cost of advertising is greater than the sales they would receive. Umm. So, instead of advertising on this site (which by your statement I assume would not result in a ROI > advertising cost) you are trying the free advertising route. Therefore, your ROI < advertising cost. Since the advertising cost of advertising for free is 0, your ROI < 0. :-D Roger Jack wrote: Look Marc, if you don't like what I posted, then please just delete it, instead of insulting us. I'm not an admin. I can't. If you can't take the flames, then get out of the kitchen. Roger Jack wrote: I will no longer provide financial support for this site. Child. Marc MyXaml Advanced Unit Testing
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Wow! I though this was the lounge and what I posted was reasonable. I guess I have aggravated some people. Marc - Feel free to delete my post if you think it is inappropriate.
Roger Jack wrote: Wow! I though this was the lounge and what I posted was reasonable. I guess I have aggravated some people. It's funny. Your other post[^] was much more developer friendly and got reasonable responses. I guess it just shows that how you say something is sometimes more important than what you say. Roger Jack wrote: Feel free to delete my post if you think it is inappropriate. Can't. However, if YOU feel it is inappropriate, you can delete it. Marc MyXaml Advanced Unit Testing
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I think that what has not been said is that people here prefer descrete advertising in the forums. For example as a link in a signature of a post. And that the post should be on topic for the discussion. If you look at Marc's post (and many others, including myself) they have links to their product(s)/service(s) in their signature which is unobtrusive. A post that has no other function than to sell a product is often viewed with hostility (as you have found).
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I understand and thanks for the clarification. I really wasn't trying to advertise our existing product, but I could see how it could be interpreted that way.
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Have you created a great software product that you want to market? If so, maybe we can help. We sell products that improve software development productivity. You can find out more at http://www.elegancetech.com We are looking for additional productivity enhancing products to license and sell. If you don't have the time, money, or knowledge to market your own product, please contact me directly at rjack@elegancetech.com Thanks! Roger Jack President Elegance Technologies, Inc.
Sorry Roger but this is a completely inappropriate use of the Lounge and of CodeProject in general. Not cool. cheers, Chris Maunder
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Wow! I though this was the lounge and what I posted was reasonable. I guess I have aggravated some people. Marc - Feel free to delete my post if you think it is inappropriate.
Imagine a company BBQ, where you can bring your spouse, and one of them asks loudly "anyone interested in used laptops? We have great offers". It is not a good analogy, but the best I can think of. If life was simple, we could say "no product advertisements in the lounge". But life is more complicated. As it seems by "community agreement" (which is not necessarily the opinion of everybody), a product information is ok if: - it's relative to the "windows developer community, and you are obviously not affiliated with the maker - it is part of your sig, it is not more prominent than the main message, and the message isn't just to show off your sig - at least 3 out of 4: you are a regular, have contributed to the site (good articles, help in forums, etc.), the product did raise some interest before, and you do it in a humble way. The last being the most debatable, because the definition is very fuzzy, but I've seen it happen, and I don't think it's bad.
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Sorry Roger but this is a completely inappropriate use of the Lounge and of CodeProject in general. Not cool. cheers, Chris Maunder
Chris, I now understand that now and I apologize. Several people have kindly pointed out the unofficial rules for the forum and I now understand. Since you are a SysAdmin, I assume that you can remove the entire thread. Please feel free to do so. Thanks!
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Marc, Huh? That makes no sense. I didn't say that we do no advertising, just not here. According to your logic, every tool vendor should advertise here because they would get clear ROI, right? Why don't they? Because the cost of advertising is greater than the sales they would receive. Look Marc, if you don't like what I posted, then please just delete it, instead of insulting us. I will no longer provide financial support for this site. Thanks!
I will no longer provide financial support for this site. Did your mommy tell you to say that? Jeremy Falcon
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Chris, I now understand that now and I apologize. Several people have kindly pointed out the unofficial rules for the forum and I now understand. Since you are a SysAdmin, I assume that you can remove the entire thread. Please feel free to do so. Thanks!
Roger Jack wrote: I now understand that now and I apologize. Several people have kindly pointed out the unofficial rules for the forum and I now understand. Since you are a SysAdmin, I assume that you can remove the entire thread. Please feel free to do so. awwww, it's monday, we like beating a dead horse once in a while.... anyhow, it'll scroll off soon. _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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Chris, I now understand that now and I apologize. Several people have kindly pointed out the unofficial rules for the forum and I now understand. Since you are a SysAdmin, I assume that you can remove the entire thread. Please feel free to do so. Thanks!
If we don't flog in public how will others learn the lesson? Todd Smith
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If we don't flog in public how will others learn the lesson? Todd Smith
Todd Smith wrote: If we don't flog in public how will others learn the lesson? Somehow I don't think that the original punishment of flogging included everyone taking turns with the whip.... I'd have to check the history books to be sure though.... _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)