Résumé 0.12
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I was mentioning to Stan Shannon yesterday about getting a few people on Code Project to have a quick look over my draft [résumé](http://www.netspace.net.au/~mmartin/Resume 0.12.zip) and critique it for me. (I didn't steal Josh Knox's idea and am glad to see that my idea isn't so weird that noone else would think of it.) As well as a general look over I would like particular attention payed to the following points. Professional Skills - Software Design and Analysis. I don't think I have used any official methodologies when I have done this task though I have many times. Can I get some idea of methodologies (websites) so I can see if I have been doing this without knowing it. Should I list languages and technolgies used? Professional Training Do I need to list dates and places? Education - Degree Should I mention it at all since it is currently on hold and unfinished? Or should I give reasons and to why and that I will be taking it up again soon? Interests I don't mention anything about computers. This is to say I have a life and interests outside of work. Should I point this out or mention programming tasks and home network to show self learning? Personal Details - Health I think this is superfluous, but have read that not to put it in if your health is not good. To me if it is missing inplies that you have a health problem. What do you think? I have been using 'Creating a Successful Résumé by Max A. Eggert' ISBN 0-7318-0647-6 which is aimed at the Australian market. He is claimed to be a HR/Head Hunting guru in Australia and the UK. Some of his ideas sound weird but what do I know? No where did it specialise the IT market and there are many people who frequent here that read résumés and interview on a regular basis. Please help a fellow CP'er who needs to get a job to support his wife, two kids and leased car. Do you think it would help if I mention I am a close personal friend of Chris the Perve, John the Goat Man and Bob? ;P Michael Martin Australia mmartin@netspace.net.au "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone
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I was mentioning to Stan Shannon yesterday about getting a few people on Code Project to have a quick look over my draft [résumé](http://www.netspace.net.au/~mmartin/Resume 0.12.zip) and critique it for me. (I didn't steal Josh Knox's idea and am glad to see that my idea isn't so weird that noone else would think of it.) As well as a general look over I would like particular attention payed to the following points. Professional Skills - Software Design and Analysis. I don't think I have used any official methodologies when I have done this task though I have many times. Can I get some idea of methodologies (websites) so I can see if I have been doing this without knowing it. Should I list languages and technolgies used? Professional Training Do I need to list dates and places? Education - Degree Should I mention it at all since it is currently on hold and unfinished? Or should I give reasons and to why and that I will be taking it up again soon? Interests I don't mention anything about computers. This is to say I have a life and interests outside of work. Should I point this out or mention programming tasks and home network to show self learning? Personal Details - Health I think this is superfluous, but have read that not to put it in if your health is not good. To me if it is missing inplies that you have a health problem. What do you think? I have been using 'Creating a Successful Résumé by Max A. Eggert' ISBN 0-7318-0647-6 which is aimed at the Australian market. He is claimed to be a HR/Head Hunting guru in Australia and the UK. Some of his ideas sound weird but what do I know? No where did it specialise the IT market and there are many people who frequent here that read résumés and interview on a regular basis. Please help a fellow CP'er who needs to get a job to support his wife, two kids and leased car. Do you think it would help if I mention I am a close personal friend of Chris the Perve, John the Goat Man and Bob? ;P Michael Martin Australia mmartin@netspace.net.au "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone
Michael Recently we recruited some trainees and we had to gop through 100s and 100s of resumes. One thing I noticed was that, some resume somehow managed to stand out. I can't advise you on the content. But if you can creatively give a different sort of look to your first page, that might help a lot. At least they'd be inclined to pick it up and start reading it and then you can pile on the stuff about how good you are and about how you are a regular CPian [you may mention that you know Nish]. That should get you a few points ;-) Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut
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I was mentioning to Stan Shannon yesterday about getting a few people on Code Project to have a quick look over my draft [résumé](http://www.netspace.net.au/~mmartin/Resume 0.12.zip) and critique it for me. (I didn't steal Josh Knox's idea and am glad to see that my idea isn't so weird that noone else would think of it.) As well as a general look over I would like particular attention payed to the following points. Professional Skills - Software Design and Analysis. I don't think I have used any official methodologies when I have done this task though I have many times. Can I get some idea of methodologies (websites) so I can see if I have been doing this without knowing it. Should I list languages and technolgies used? Professional Training Do I need to list dates and places? Education - Degree Should I mention it at all since it is currently on hold and unfinished? Or should I give reasons and to why and that I will be taking it up again soon? Interests I don't mention anything about computers. This is to say I have a life and interests outside of work. Should I point this out or mention programming tasks and home network to show self learning? Personal Details - Health I think this is superfluous, but have read that not to put it in if your health is not good. To me if it is missing inplies that you have a health problem. What do you think? I have been using 'Creating a Successful Résumé by Max A. Eggert' ISBN 0-7318-0647-6 which is aimed at the Australian market. He is claimed to be a HR/Head Hunting guru in Australia and the UK. Some of his ideas sound weird but what do I know? No where did it specialise the IT market and there are many people who frequent here that read résumés and interview on a regular basis. Please help a fellow CP'er who needs to get a job to support his wife, two kids and leased car. Do you think it would help if I mention I am a close personal friend of Chris the Perve, John the Goat Man and Bob? ;P Michael Martin Australia mmartin@netspace.net.au "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone
Well, as someone who is also brushing off his resume, I think I can give you a few pointers. I believe in brevity in a resume, try to list as much as possible in as little space as possible, without crowding everything together. Put the important stuff at the top, less important stuff towards the bottom. Be sure your core skills are well presented towards the very top of the resume. I've been progamming successfully in one capacity or another for nearly twenty years, along with several other professions, from electronics, to truck driving, to Library Science, picked up along the way, and my resume does not exceed three pages in length, large type and neatly laid out. I would say that the less personal stuff you put in the better. I can't recommend that you include anything regarding your health or other such intimate details. In fact, I don't even include details such as wife and kids, hobbies, or anything of that sort. Everything included should relate directly to your ability to do the job you are applying for. My attitude is that my life is not for sell, just my ability to do the job as defined. You should never lie on a resume, but being creative doesn't hurt. If you are confident that you are competent in a given skill, and believe that you can bullshit on the topic, you might list it. But don't list it if all you've ever done was read a book on the subject, be sure you know at least a few 'fluky' aspects of the technology that only someone who had actually worked with it would know. Use your best judgement. You don't want to over sell yourself, but you don't want to sell yourself short either. Believe in yourself, be brave, be aggressive, but not foolishly so.
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I was mentioning to Stan Shannon yesterday about getting a few people on Code Project to have a quick look over my draft [résumé](http://www.netspace.net.au/~mmartin/Resume 0.12.zip) and critique it for me. (I didn't steal Josh Knox's idea and am glad to see that my idea isn't so weird that noone else would think of it.) As well as a general look over I would like particular attention payed to the following points. Professional Skills - Software Design and Analysis. I don't think I have used any official methodologies when I have done this task though I have many times. Can I get some idea of methodologies (websites) so I can see if I have been doing this without knowing it. Should I list languages and technolgies used? Professional Training Do I need to list dates and places? Education - Degree Should I mention it at all since it is currently on hold and unfinished? Or should I give reasons and to why and that I will be taking it up again soon? Interests I don't mention anything about computers. This is to say I have a life and interests outside of work. Should I point this out or mention programming tasks and home network to show self learning? Personal Details - Health I think this is superfluous, but have read that not to put it in if your health is not good. To me if it is missing inplies that you have a health problem. What do you think? I have been using 'Creating a Successful Résumé by Max A. Eggert' ISBN 0-7318-0647-6 which is aimed at the Australian market. He is claimed to be a HR/Head Hunting guru in Australia and the UK. Some of his ideas sound weird but what do I know? No where did it specialise the IT market and there are many people who frequent here that read résumés and interview on a regular basis. Please help a fellow CP'er who needs to get a job to support his wife, two kids and leased car. Do you think it would help if I mention I am a close personal friend of Chris the Perve, John the Goat Man and Bob? ;P Michael Martin Australia mmartin@netspace.net.au "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone
Try this format, it has been successful for me (name and contact info centered on page): John Doe 1313 Mockingbird Lane Nowhere Town, USA (555) 555 - 5555 myemail@myisp.com SKILL SUMMARY Here you would place bullets (no descriptions just descriptive names) listing the languages, operating systems, systems and other skills you have. List items such as (if you have them) GUI design/development, multi-threaded applications, installation program (i.e. InstallShield) etc. List major software products your are skilled in using whether development tools or office software. A summary at the top of your resume listing the skills that you have is a real attention getter. It allows reviewers to quickly see in one, neat spot what this person can do. A big plus when reviewers are searching through tons of resumes. Often a secretarial or HR type is going through looking for specific buzz words and putting those that they see in the "keep pile". If they can't see the things they are looking for quickly, they may toss yours in the trash. The "keep pile" will go to the next person(s) to review more closely. EXPERIENCE HISTORY Company1 Name Title -- From Date to Present Description of responsibilities, Major accomplishments, etc. If you saved schedules from slipping, saved company money, etc. Do this for each company/position that you've had in recent history. Proof read carefully and multiple times. It always amazes me that when I proof read something (especially if I'm in a hurry), it is as if my brain reads what is supposed to be there in a sentence, when it really doesn't read exactly that way. So read slowly and carefully. Get others to proof it too. EDUCATION College Name, Degree, Graduation Date, special honors or societies that you belong to. Any additional postgraduate training that is applicable to the job for which you are applying. Be brief. Use phrases like "Performed ...." or "Conducted..." or "Established...". Do not use overly flowery language. And above all, CHECK YOUR SPELLING CAREFULLY. Do not include personal information about your life or personal interests. It is irrelevant. They want to know what you can do for their company and that's it! Good luck. WillCodeForMoney
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I was mentioning to Stan Shannon yesterday about getting a few people on Code Project to have a quick look over my draft [résumé](http://www.netspace.net.au/~mmartin/Resume 0.12.zip) and critique it for me. (I didn't steal Josh Knox's idea and am glad to see that my idea isn't so weird that noone else would think of it.) As well as a general look over I would like particular attention payed to the following points. Professional Skills - Software Design and Analysis. I don't think I have used any official methodologies when I have done this task though I have many times. Can I get some idea of methodologies (websites) so I can see if I have been doing this without knowing it. Should I list languages and technolgies used? Professional Training Do I need to list dates and places? Education - Degree Should I mention it at all since it is currently on hold and unfinished? Or should I give reasons and to why and that I will be taking it up again soon? Interests I don't mention anything about computers. This is to say I have a life and interests outside of work. Should I point this out or mention programming tasks and home network to show self learning? Personal Details - Health I think this is superfluous, but have read that not to put it in if your health is not good. To me if it is missing inplies that you have a health problem. What do you think? I have been using 'Creating a Successful Résumé by Max A. Eggert' ISBN 0-7318-0647-6 which is aimed at the Australian market. He is claimed to be a HR/Head Hunting guru in Australia and the UK. Some of his ideas sound weird but what do I know? No where did it specialise the IT market and there are many people who frequent here that read résumés and interview on a regular basis. Please help a fellow CP'er who needs to get a job to support his wife, two kids and leased car. Do you think it would help if I mention I am a close personal friend of Chris the Perve, John the Goat Man and Bob? ;P Michael Martin Australia mmartin@netspace.net.au "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone
my wife is a recruiter for a telecom company. she sees hundreds of resumes every week. she told me that employers do NOT look at outside interests, and she would probably say to NEVER put in anything about your health, marital status, age, etc. (1. it's none of their business and 2. it might make employers uncomfortable - if you know that they know, from your resume, that you have this or that disease then you could possibly use that against them in a wrongful termination claim). i argued the outside interest thing with her, because i feel that it often works as a conversation starter after the interview is done (while you're waiting for the next person to talk to you). she agreed with that, but still thinks you should do that only if you have some extra space on a second page - otherwise leave it off.
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Well, as someone who is also brushing off his resume, I think I can give you a few pointers. I believe in brevity in a resume, try to list as much as possible in as little space as possible, without crowding everything together. Put the important stuff at the top, less important stuff towards the bottom. Be sure your core skills are well presented towards the very top of the resume. I've been progamming successfully in one capacity or another for nearly twenty years, along with several other professions, from electronics, to truck driving, to Library Science, picked up along the way, and my resume does not exceed three pages in length, large type and neatly laid out. I would say that the less personal stuff you put in the better. I can't recommend that you include anything regarding your health or other such intimate details. In fact, I don't even include details such as wife and kids, hobbies, or anything of that sort. Everything included should relate directly to your ability to do the job you are applying for. My attitude is that my life is not for sell, just my ability to do the job as defined. You should never lie on a resume, but being creative doesn't hurt. If you are confident that you are competent in a given skill, and believe that you can bullshit on the topic, you might list it. But don't list it if all you've ever done was read a book on the subject, be sure you know at least a few 'fluky' aspects of the technology that only someone who had actually worked with it would know. Use your best judgement. You don't want to over sell yourself, but you don't want to sell yourself short either. Believe in yourself, be brave, be aggressive, but not foolishly so.
"You should never lie on a resume, but being creative doesn't hurt." In other words, lie with integrity and style. :) It has been 2 year since I sent out my resume to anyone, I have been told by people in HR and Recruiting firms that they noticed my resume from a pile because I put my Chinese name (printed in "cursive" font) on the top line. So I think odd things like Bob's image will definitely help to get people's attention. ;)
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I was mentioning to Stan Shannon yesterday about getting a few people on Code Project to have a quick look over my draft [résumé](http://www.netspace.net.au/~mmartin/Resume 0.12.zip) and critique it for me. (I didn't steal Josh Knox's idea and am glad to see that my idea isn't so weird that noone else would think of it.) As well as a general look over I would like particular attention payed to the following points. Professional Skills - Software Design and Analysis. I don't think I have used any official methodologies when I have done this task though I have many times. Can I get some idea of methodologies (websites) so I can see if I have been doing this without knowing it. Should I list languages and technolgies used? Professional Training Do I need to list dates and places? Education - Degree Should I mention it at all since it is currently on hold and unfinished? Or should I give reasons and to why and that I will be taking it up again soon? Interests I don't mention anything about computers. This is to say I have a life and interests outside of work. Should I point this out or mention programming tasks and home network to show self learning? Personal Details - Health I think this is superfluous, but have read that not to put it in if your health is not good. To me if it is missing inplies that you have a health problem. What do you think? I have been using 'Creating a Successful Résumé by Max A. Eggert' ISBN 0-7318-0647-6 which is aimed at the Australian market. He is claimed to be a HR/Head Hunting guru in Australia and the UK. Some of his ideas sound weird but what do I know? No where did it specialise the IT market and there are many people who frequent here that read résumés and interview on a regular basis. Please help a fellow CP'er who needs to get a job to support his wife, two kids and leased car. Do you think it would help if I mention I am a close personal friend of Chris the Perve, John the Goat Man and Bob? ;P Michael Martin Australia mmartin@netspace.net.au "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone
Michael Martin wrote: Should I mention it at all since it is currently on hold and unfinished? Or should I give reasons and to why and that I will be taking it up again soon? Thats pretty much my education situation as well. I've got six or 7 years of school but no degree.:( I guess I'll be a lifelong learner. I decided to list my education but not specify that I don't have a degree at least to show I have some formal background. Josh Knox that-guy.net
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"You should never lie on a resume, but being creative doesn't hurt." In other words, lie with integrity and style. :) It has been 2 year since I sent out my resume to anyone, I have been told by people in HR and Recruiting firms that they noticed my resume from a pile because I put my Chinese name (printed in "cursive" font) on the top line. So I think odd things like Bob's image will definitely help to get people's attention. ;)
kfc wrote: In other words, lie with integrity and style Not at all. I'm saying that you should never be humble about what you are confident you have the ability to do, even if you must exagerate your actual experience in some creative way on the resume. I would never claim to know something that I, in fact, don't know. But I would also not be quiet about a skill that I was sure I could bring to a company just because I might have a few years less experience than the next guy might have. I would list it, and I would defend it. That's not lieing, that is just being an agressive salesman.
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I was mentioning to Stan Shannon yesterday about getting a few people on Code Project to have a quick look over my draft [résumé](http://www.netspace.net.au/~mmartin/Resume 0.12.zip) and critique it for me. (I didn't steal Josh Knox's idea and am glad to see that my idea isn't so weird that noone else would think of it.) As well as a general look over I would like particular attention payed to the following points. Professional Skills - Software Design and Analysis. I don't think I have used any official methodologies when I have done this task though I have many times. Can I get some idea of methodologies (websites) so I can see if I have been doing this without knowing it. Should I list languages and technolgies used? Professional Training Do I need to list dates and places? Education - Degree Should I mention it at all since it is currently on hold and unfinished? Or should I give reasons and to why and that I will be taking it up again soon? Interests I don't mention anything about computers. This is to say I have a life and interests outside of work. Should I point this out or mention programming tasks and home network to show self learning? Personal Details - Health I think this is superfluous, but have read that not to put it in if your health is not good. To me if it is missing inplies that you have a health problem. What do you think? I have been using 'Creating a Successful Résumé by Max A. Eggert' ISBN 0-7318-0647-6 which is aimed at the Australian market. He is claimed to be a HR/Head Hunting guru in Australia and the UK. Some of his ideas sound weird but what do I know? No where did it specialise the IT market and there are many people who frequent here that read résumés and interview on a regular basis. Please help a fellow CP'er who needs to get a job to support his wife, two kids and leased car. Do you think it would help if I mention I am a close personal friend of Chris the Perve, John the Goat Man and Bob? ;P Michael Martin Australia mmartin@netspace.net.au "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone
Summary:Too bl**dy long - 2 pages ABSOLUTE MAX. The more you write the more mistakes you will make or generate places where you can be character assasinated before you even get through the door. Remove woolly statements and put more [$] facts in eg. "cost saving for co of xx" & "project completed on time and in budget (£30m, 200man years)" "number of users" "number of customers" type of interface, show you are not a rote programmr and understand what you are doing. B/S for interviews, facts for paper. Taylor the CV to the job you are applying for. put a mobile number on so you don't miss that vital call. or Get a pager. Specifics: design and anal "Use cases" can go on to name one. I'd add some other things in on professional skills, so that they know programming is not the only thing you can do. Makes 'em thing you can code, say, finance stuff without having to ask hundreds of finance type basic questions. I like to think programming is a tool to make things with - no frigging use on its own. Put relevant courses of the degree in - mark it degree level. Leave the reasons off and get ready to talk about it. Don't bother with anything lower then the last exams you completed before the degree course - wastes space /paper. Health - you'll get a medical if they're worried and they may ask your last employer about your sick leave. Leave it off - don't give them things to worry about before you get through the door. Profess training - list places if prestigous, else list grades and types. eg. SEC Series 7 and SFA Regy Rep. for trading type programming. Leave non-relevant stuff off - look like space filling.
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I was mentioning to Stan Shannon yesterday about getting a few people on Code Project to have a quick look over my draft [résumé](http://www.netspace.net.au/~mmartin/Resume 0.12.zip) and critique it for me. (I didn't steal Josh Knox's idea and am glad to see that my idea isn't so weird that noone else would think of it.) As well as a general look over I would like particular attention payed to the following points. Professional Skills - Software Design and Analysis. I don't think I have used any official methodologies when I have done this task though I have many times. Can I get some idea of methodologies (websites) so I can see if I have been doing this without knowing it. Should I list languages and technolgies used? Professional Training Do I need to list dates and places? Education - Degree Should I mention it at all since it is currently on hold and unfinished? Or should I give reasons and to why and that I will be taking it up again soon? Interests I don't mention anything about computers. This is to say I have a life and interests outside of work. Should I point this out or mention programming tasks and home network to show self learning? Personal Details - Health I think this is superfluous, but have read that not to put it in if your health is not good. To me if it is missing inplies that you have a health problem. What do you think? I have been using 'Creating a Successful Résumé by Max A. Eggert' ISBN 0-7318-0647-6 which is aimed at the Australian market. He is claimed to be a HR/Head Hunting guru in Australia and the UK. Some of his ideas sound weird but what do I know? No where did it specialise the IT market and there are many people who frequent here that read résumés and interview on a regular basis. Please help a fellow CP'er who needs to get a job to support his wife, two kids and leased car. Do you think it would help if I mention I am a close personal friend of Chris the Perve, John the Goat Man and Bob? ;P Michael Martin Australia mmartin@netspace.net.au "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone
Michael, since you asked so nicely for me to respond to your resume, I shall. (p.s. this tactic won't work on the interviewer, be nicer, ok? ;) ) First thing I noticed was that your resume has a version number... Make sure you don't send it on like that to the company. Especially when it has gone through 12 revisions :-D Just like writing for the web, break long sentences with lots of facts into a bullet list. That introductory paragraph is good, but would be better as a bullet list. Same with the PegaSYSTEM paragraph, it even reads like a bulleted list, just does not look like one. I would put a bit more detail into the Professional Skills list. Maybe under "Visual C++ MFC and API development" indent another shortish list with things like "client/server", "database connectivity", "web services" etc. I can put C++ on my resume too, but all I can do in it is write Hello World. You need to show that you can do more with C++ than just know it. Also remember you are applying for a specific job. They want to see you mention the job in your resume and why you think you are the best candidate for it. Put that first. Last thing, maybe just make the headers for each section a bit bolder. i.e. So that they can see the start of one section and the end of another quite easily. Maybe use a background colour that goes across the page. It does help having good structure. That was my 2 cents :) regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge Martin Marvinski wrote: Unfortunatly Deep Throat isn't my cup of tea Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront