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  • M Michael P Butler

    Christian Graus wrote: The trouble is that so many people can make a pretty dialog box in VB, and assume they can program. Well, if a pretty dialog box is one that uses non-standard fonts and control sizes, with a coloured background, lots of text boxes without limit texts and large buttons then I agree. :-D Michael CP Blog [^]

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    ROTFL. No, it's just pretty because it has their name on it. Christian I have several lifelong friends that are New Yorkers but I have always gravitated toward the weirdo's. - Richard Stringer

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      Christian Graus wrote: *grin* I did spot the teacher thing, but I still didn't think it wrong to point out that his school is teaching him to be stupid. Successfully, it would seem. To be fair, if I was a teacher with people likes these spods in my class then I don't think I'd be too interested in teaching them either. Michael CP Blog [^]

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      Michael P Butler wrote: these spods in my class what exactly "spod" means? I can't find it in my dictionary... Sure I see it's not something I'd like to be called, bt who exactly is "spod" ? Just curious :) [edit]well thanks to this test[^] I have idea what it means. I am 20% spod :-O[edit] David Never forget: "Stay kul and happy" (I.A.)

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        Michael P Butler wrote: these spods in my class what exactly "spod" means? I can't find it in my dictionary... Sure I see it's not something I'd like to be called, bt who exactly is "spod" ? Just curious :) [edit]well thanks to this test[^] I have idea what it means. I am 20% spod :-O[edit] David Never forget: "Stay kul and happy" (I.A.)

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        Cool. I just took it to be a typo, for 'bods' ( just meaning folks ) Christian I have several lifelong friends that are New Yorkers but I have always gravitated toward the weirdo's. - Richard Stringer

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        • M Michael P Butler

          Christian Graus wrote: The trouble is that so many people can make a pretty dialog box in VB, and assume they can program. Well, if a pretty dialog box is one that uses non-standard fonts and control sizes, with a coloured background, lots of text boxes without limit texts and large buttons then I agree. :-D Michael CP Blog [^]

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          :-O it took me LONG time to realize that you can do this all in designer without any knowledge ! :-D was that your point? or did I miss something? :confused: David Never forget: "Stay kul and happy" (I.A.)

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            Michael P Butler wrote: these spods in my class what exactly "spod" means? I can't find it in my dictionary... Sure I see it's not something I'd like to be called, bt who exactly is "spod" ? Just curious :) [edit]well thanks to this test[^] I have idea what it means. I am 20% spod :-O[edit] David Never forget: "Stay kul and happy" (I.A.)

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            http://dict.die.net/spod/[^]

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              http://dict.die.net/spod/[^]

              Jon Sagara Roomier! Brawnier! Versatilier!
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              thanks for link. Anyway I've found out myself. :) Never forget: "Stay kul and happy" (I.A.)

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              • C Christian Graus

                First of all, this is not the place for programming questions. If you can't work that out from the big banner above where you typed this question, you should move into a career more suited to your skills, like perhaps a circus geek. Secondly, and I say this with respect, VB.NET is the language of idiots. I've been forced to use it of late, and everything that I've seen has confirmed my suspicions. If you want to be a programmer, I suggest two easy steps 1. Learn to read. 2. Learn a programming language. I recommend C#. <edit>Yes, I am having a bad day. But I'd normally have said the same thing, just perhaps worded it a little more carefully</edit> Christian I have several lifelong friends that are New Yorkers but I have always gravitated toward the weirdo's. - Richard Stringer

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                Giancarlo Aguilera
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                "Secondly, and I say this with respect, VB.NET is the language of idiots" Well, I say this with absolutely no respect, the last guy that called me an idiot to my face got dropped like a fucking pancake. Watch what you say asshole, or at least have the balls to talk all your shit to an actual person. In february I'll be in SF attending VS Live. I beg of you to attend as well; I'd be more than happy to meet you so that you can call me an idiot to my face. Just make sure you've got muscle to back your words up and I'll make sure to have enough cash to post bail after I get arrested for having knocked your ass out. No joke Giancarlo

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                  dnh wrote: Was that what you meant, Christian? *grin* I did spot the teacher thing, but I still didn't think it wrong to point out that his school is teaching him to be stupid. Successfully, it would seem. Christian I have several lifelong friends that are New Yorkers but I have always gravitated toward the weirdo's. - Richard Stringer

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                  So you like picking on little high school boys, huh? Ever pick on anyone your own size dumb ass? Giancarlo

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                  • G Giancarlo Aguilera

                    "Secondly, and I say this with respect, VB.NET is the language of idiots" Well, I say this with absolutely no respect, the last guy that called me an idiot to my face got dropped like a fucking pancake. Watch what you say asshole, or at least have the balls to talk all your shit to an actual person. In february I'll be in SF attending VS Live. I beg of you to attend as well; I'd be more than happy to meet you so that you can call me an idiot to my face. Just make sure you've got muscle to back your words up and I'll make sure to have enough cash to post bail after I get arrested for having knocked your ass out. No joke Giancarlo

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                    Giancarlo Aguilera wrote: Watch what you say asshole, or at least have the balls to talk all your sh*t to an actual person. How interesting that someone offended by the truth about VB.NET would also be a meathead. No comments about 'VB is a good language because...', no, I get 'you insulted me so I'm gonna pound you, because if I'm stronger than you, that proves I'm smarter/better'. Good, thanks for proving my point. Giancarlo Aguilera wrote: In february I'll be in SF attending VS Live. Were you not a moron, you'd have noticed that I'm not even in the USA. And people like you make me glad of it. Giancarlo Aguilera wrote: No joke Oh, it's no joke. It's morons like you that devalue our entire industry, to my personal financial detriment. Thanks for that. Moron. Christian I have several lifelong friends that are New Yorkers but I have always gravitated toward the weirdo's. - Richard Stringer

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                      So you like picking on little high school boys, huh? Ever pick on anyone your own size dumb ass? Giancarlo

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                      Giancarlo Aguilera wrote: So you like picking on little high school boys, huh? Ever pick on anyone your own size dumb ass? Congratulations, you win stupidest person of the year award. I doubt at this late stage that anyone will urusp your crown. In the real world, where adults live, size has nothing to do with intelligence. It seems you've spent too much time taking steroids. That's probably why you use VB.NET. If you can somehow turn from this bullyboy moron into someone who is capable of an adult discussion, I'm happy to hear why you think that VB.NET deserves to be called a programming language, and to quantify my statement that it is the 'language of idiots'. If not, then just go away. Christian I have several lifelong friends that are New Yorkers but I have always gravitated toward the weirdo's. - Richard Stringer

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                        "Secondly, and I say this with respect, VB.NET is the language of idiots" Well, I say this with absolutely no respect, the last guy that called me an idiot to my face got dropped like a fucking pancake. Watch what you say asshole, or at least have the balls to talk all your shit to an actual person. In february I'll be in SF attending VS Live. I beg of you to attend as well; I'd be more than happy to meet you so that you can call me an idiot to my face. Just make sure you've got muscle to back your words up and I'll make sure to have enough cash to post bail after I get arrested for having knocked your ass out. No joke Giancarlo

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                        Giancarlo Aguilera wrote: the last guy that called me an idiot to my face got dropped like a f***ing pancake. Yes, but was he right? Something tells me maybe he was. :-D Marc MyXaml Advanced Unit Testing

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                          Giancarlo Aguilera wrote: the last guy that called me an idiot to my face got dropped like a f***ing pancake. Yes, but was he right? Something tells me maybe he was. :-D Marc MyXaml Advanced Unit Testing

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                          I am choking with laughter right now.... Christian I have several lifelong friends that are New Yorkers but I have always gravitated toward the weirdo's. - Richard Stringer

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                            Giancarlo Aguilera wrote: Watch what you say asshole, or at least have the balls to talk all your sh*t to an actual person. How interesting that someone offended by the truth about VB.NET would also be a meathead. No comments about 'VB is a good language because...', no, I get 'you insulted me so I'm gonna pound you, because if I'm stronger than you, that proves I'm smarter/better'. Good, thanks for proving my point. Giancarlo Aguilera wrote: In february I'll be in SF attending VS Live. Were you not a moron, you'd have noticed that I'm not even in the USA. And people like you make me glad of it. Giancarlo Aguilera wrote: No joke Oh, it's no joke. It's morons like you that devalue our entire industry, to my personal financial detriment. Thanks for that. Moron. Christian I have several lifelong friends that are New Yorkers but I have always gravitated toward the weirdo's. - Richard Stringer

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                            Giancarlo Aguilera
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                            "How interesting that someone offended by the truth about VB.NET would also be a meathead. No comments about 'VB is a good language because...', no, I get 'you insulted me so I'm gonna pound you, because if I'm stronger than you, that proves I'm smarter/better'. Good, thanks for proving my point." What makes you think I give a rat's ass about VB or any other language? I'm a programmer you fool, I do whatever needs to be done to get the job done. I don't care about any particular language. You're just a punk that likes to talk a whole lot shit. Forgive me but I respect only those that respect me. Giancarlo

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                              "How interesting that someone offended by the truth about VB.NET would also be a meathead. No comments about 'VB is a good language because...', no, I get 'you insulted me so I'm gonna pound you, because if I'm stronger than you, that proves I'm smarter/better'. Good, thanks for proving my point." What makes you think I give a rat's ass about VB or any other language? I'm a programmer you fool, I do whatever needs to be done to get the job done. I don't care about any particular language. You're just a punk that likes to talk a whole lot shit. Forgive me but I respect only those that respect me. Giancarlo

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                              Giancarlo Aguilera wrote: What makes you think I give a rat's ass about VB or any other language? Gosh, I wonder.... Giancarlo Aguilera wrote: I'm a programmer you fool, I do whatever needs to be done to get the job done. I don't care about any particular language. Noble words. I don't see how that translates to using VB.NET, ever, seeing as C# does the same job, without all the crap. I'm curious to know if you mean this ( that is, how many languages do you use, and in what context do you think VB.NET is the best choice ), or if you just saw it on a message board somewhere. Giancarlo Aguilera wrote: You're just a punk that likes to talk a whole lot sh*t. Like I said, I'm happy to intelligently explain why VB.NET is a useless joke. I can do it without swearing, threatening, or calling people names. I doubt you can do the same. Christian I have several lifelong friends that are New Yorkers but I have always gravitated toward the weirdo's. - Richard Stringer

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                                Giancarlo Aguilera wrote: the last guy that called me an idiot to my face got dropped like a f***ing pancake. Yes, but was he right? Something tells me maybe he was. :-D Marc MyXaml Advanced Unit Testing

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                                Please Marc, stay out of this, I really would hate to get into this quarrel with you, only because I consider you a great programmer. actually, there's no doubt christian is a awesome programmer as well, however, he just talks too too much, and I can't stand it. so please, keep out of this Giancarlo

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                                  Giancarlo Aguilera wrote: What makes you think I give a rat's ass about VB or any other language? Gosh, I wonder.... Giancarlo Aguilera wrote: I'm a programmer you fool, I do whatever needs to be done to get the job done. I don't care about any particular language. Noble words. I don't see how that translates to using VB.NET, ever, seeing as C# does the same job, without all the crap. I'm curious to know if you mean this ( that is, how many languages do you use, and in what context do you think VB.NET is the best choice ), or if you just saw it on a message board somewhere. Giancarlo Aguilera wrote: You're just a punk that likes to talk a whole lot sh*t. Like I said, I'm happy to intelligently explain why VB.NET is a useless joke. I can do it without swearing, threatening, or calling people names. I doubt you can do the same. Christian I have several lifelong friends that are New Yorkers but I have always gravitated toward the weirdo's. - Richard Stringer

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                                  "Gosh, I wonder...." You wonder why I take offense? What's wrong with you man, here you are shouting at the world that VB programmers are idiots and you wonder why I or anyone else would take offense to this. I've been using VB all my life simply because that's where the money has been at, no other reason. "Noble words. I don't see how that translates to using VB.NET, ever, seeing as C# does the same job, without all the crap. I'm curious to know if you mean this ( that is, how many languages do you use, and in what context do you think VB.NET is the best choice ), or if you just saw it on a message board somewhere." What's your point? For a managed application, who cares? Whatever the boss wants, that's what he or she gets. If they want it written in C#, so be it. I don't care, and I certainly don't think C# is anymore complicated than VB. C# is currently the premier language only because it has the best of all worlds, including but not limited to java, c++, and of course VB. Or are you that naive to think that C# has no resemblance to VB with respect to the development experience. Windows Form, a better VB 6 form, a Web Form, a better VB 6 Web Class.

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                                    Please Marc, stay out of this, I really would hate to get into this quarrel with you, only because I consider you a great programmer. actually, there's no doubt christian is a awesome programmer as well, however, he just talks too too much, and I can't stand it. so please, keep out of this Giancarlo

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                                    Giancarlo Aguilera wrote: so please, keep out of this Sorry, I couldn't resist! Let me put it this way. Christian is having a "Marc day", so it'd be nice if you could cut him some slack. We all need to vent once in a while, and while being in the direct path of a heated vent isn't any fun, the best thing to do is put up the deflector shields rather than blast away with full phasers and photon torpedoes. imHo. Marc MyXaml Advanced Unit Testing

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                                      "Gosh, I wonder...." You wonder why I take offense? What's wrong with you man, here you are shouting at the world that VB programmers are idiots and you wonder why I or anyone else would take offense to this. I've been using VB all my life simply because that's where the money has been at, no other reason. "Noble words. I don't see how that translates to using VB.NET, ever, seeing as C# does the same job, without all the crap. I'm curious to know if you mean this ( that is, how many languages do you use, and in what context do you think VB.NET is the best choice ), or if you just saw it on a message board somewhere." What's your point? For a managed application, who cares? Whatever the boss wants, that's what he or she gets. If they want it written in C#, so be it. I don't care, and I certainly don't think C# is anymore complicated than VB. C# is currently the premier language only because it has the best of all worlds, including but not limited to java, c++, and of course VB. Or are you that naive to think that C# has no resemblance to VB with respect to the development experience. Windows Form, a better VB 6 form, a Web Form, a better VB 6 Web Class.

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                                      Giancarlo Aguilera wrote: What's wrong with you man, here you are shouting at the world that VB programmers are idiots and you wonder why I or anyone else would take offense to this. I've been using VB all my life simply because that's where the money has been at, no other reason. Not using VB has not resulted in me starving. Using VB until VB.NET would have resulted in you needing access to C++ components to do anything remotely useful or non-generic. I get a lot of work fixing VB.NET projects, I'm doing one right now, hence my mood when it comes to discussing it. I have in past been more careful to say that there are more idiots in VB.NET than any other language, but there are probably 1-2% of people using VB.NET who can program. I've yet to see their work. When I said 'VB.NET is the language of idiots', I meant it. An idiot who wants to code should learn VB.NET. But you're reversing the statement, I'm sure it's possible that you're in the 2%, and I never denied that they exist. Giancarlo Aguilera wrote: For a managed application, who cares? Anyone who wants a language that's nice to code in ? Seriously, I could talk for days about the ways in which C# beats VB.NET from the POV of the coder. And as C# grows ( generics, anyone ) the gap will only widen. Giancarlo Aguilera wrote: Whatever the boss wants, that's what he or she gets. The 'boss' generally pays coders to know what they are talking about. I've succeeded in moving a lot of projects to C# from VB.NET ( existing and projected ), and after this one, I will refuse to do any work that is VB.NET based. Actually, this one was a mistake, I didn't ask what language was used, and I'm honouring my commitment. Giancarlo Aguilera wrote: I don't care, and I certainly don't think C# is anymore complicated than VB. No, it's actually less complex, in terms of using and reading it. That would be my point. VB syntax is designed to help stupid people learn it, but the lack of learning curve results in a clumsy language that looks ugly. Giancarlo Aguilera wrote: C# is currently the premier language only because it has the best of all worlds, including but not limited to java, c++, and of course VB. C# is the 'premier' language for web development because J2EE sucks, and so does VB.NET. Giancarlo Aguilera wrote: Or are you that naive to think that C# has n

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                                        Giancarlo Aguilera wrote: So you like picking on little high school boys, huh? Ever pick on anyone your own size dumb ass? Congratulations, you win stupidest person of the year award. I doubt at this late stage that anyone will urusp your crown. In the real world, where adults live, size has nothing to do with intelligence. It seems you've spent too much time taking steroids. That's probably why you use VB.NET. If you can somehow turn from this bullyboy moron into someone who is capable of an adult discussion, I'm happy to hear why you think that VB.NET deserves to be called a programming language, and to quantify my statement that it is the 'language of idiots'. If not, then just go away. Christian I have several lifelong friends that are New Yorkers but I have always gravitated toward the weirdo's. - Richard Stringer

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                                        "In the real world, where adults live, size has nothing to do with intelligence. It seems you've spent too much time taking steroids. That's probably why you use VB.NET" Steriods? Actually no, I began using VB (COM) right out of school, simply because that's what my very first employer wanted, no other reason. "If you can somehow turn from this bullyboy moron into someone who is capable of an adult discussion, I'm happy to hear why you think that VB.NET deserves to be called a programming language, and to quantify my statement that it is the 'language of idiots'. If not, then just go away." Adult discussion? If I recall correctly, you're the one that began with the insults, I just responded harder. Insult the language but not the people who use for whatever reason. Here you claim that VB doesn't deserve to be called a programming language yet I wonder why so many damn employers love it and won't consider anything else. Are they all wrong and you're right? I doubt it. Go away? I'm going to be in your face for the rest of your life Giancarlo

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                                          Giancarlo Aguilera wrote: Watch what you say asshole, or at least have the balls to talk all your sh*t to an actual person. How interesting that someone offended by the truth about VB.NET would also be a meathead. No comments about 'VB is a good language because...', no, I get 'you insulted me so I'm gonna pound you, because if I'm stronger than you, that proves I'm smarter/better'. Good, thanks for proving my point. Giancarlo Aguilera wrote: In february I'll be in SF attending VS Live. Were you not a moron, you'd have noticed that I'm not even in the USA. And people like you make me glad of it. Giancarlo Aguilera wrote: No joke Oh, it's no joke. It's morons like you that devalue our entire industry, to my personal financial detriment. Thanks for that. Moron. Christian I have several lifelong friends that are New Yorkers but I have always gravitated toward the weirdo's. - Richard Stringer

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                                          I'd be more worried that he wanted to pound your arse out. Said he was going to San Francisco, bet he lives there. Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So i had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004

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