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  • R Reno Tiko

    Brian Hart wrote: I need to publish for money so I can eat, Writing articles or books for money doesn't pay the bills. Why don't you take your MFC/C++ knowledege and do some consulting or write your own program and then sell it. Anything beats writing articles or books. I don't think most of the article or book writers do it for the money either, they just love sharing their knowledge and/or code with others. Basically giving back to the community from which they've learned so much from. (I've yet to give back to CodeProject and CodeGuru which have helped me immensely due to the generous authors who have taken their free time to donate to the community). It's sort of similar to that "Give it Forward" (or something like that) movie where one person starts a chain reaction of good things which results in others starting their own help someone else chain reaction.

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    Reno Tiko wrote: Writing articles or books for money doesn't pay the bills FYI they say that J.K.Rowling, author of the Harry Potter books, is very likely to become the first billion dollar writer. i.e. She is likely to earn over a billion dollars on the books she has written (plus merchandise of course.) Also other authors have made a good living off of writing. e.g. Stephen King, Arthur C Clarke, Wilbur Smith etc. But I do agree that it is LIKELY that you will not pay your bills by being an author :) Just like artists or open source programmers. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge Martin Marvinski wrote: Unfortunatly Deep Throat isn't my cup of tea Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront

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      Reno Tiko wrote: Writing articles or books for money doesn't pay the bills FYI they say that J.K.Rowling, author of the Harry Potter books, is very likely to become the first billion dollar writer. i.e. She is likely to earn over a billion dollars on the books she has written (plus merchandise of course.) Also other authors have made a good living off of writing. e.g. Stephen King, Arthur C Clarke, Wilbur Smith etc. But I do agree that it is LIKELY that you will not pay your bills by being an author :) Just like artists or open source programmers. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge Martin Marvinski wrote: Unfortunatly Deep Throat isn't my cup of tea Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront

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      Yeah, I didn't mean it in the strictest sense, only in general. Those authors are the exceptions. Paul Watson wrote: Just like artists or open source programmers. :laugh: I agree.

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      • Brian C HartB Brian C Hart

        Is it just me, or is the only venue where you can publish trivial (and not trivial) MFC/C++ handy-to-know kind of articles is The Code Project?? And Chris doesn't even pay anybody who contributes. CUJ and WDJ pay, but they are extremely picky and want you to be a Computer Scientist about what you write. MSDN magazine? Nothin' but .NET. I need to publish for money so I can eat, but problem is I don't know how to make sense of this C#/.NET ...stuff... and it seems that conference talks or publishing venues won't publish anything else... ARRGH! This is SO frustrating! Any suggestions? Is there anybody that can identify with this?? :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: Sincerely Yours, Brian Hart "And that's the news from Lake Wobegon, where all the women are strong, the men are good-looking, and the children are above-average." - Garrison Keillor

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        The thing with .NET is that because it's so new it puts all content providers (books, magazines, websites) back on an even playing field, with the thought that whoever has the most content the soonest and makes the biggest noise about it will ultimitely win when .NET matures in the coming months and years. Whatever 'winning' means. Another thing is that there are SO many MFC, C++, ATL, COM etc etc books and articles out there that many authors and publishing houses are jumping on the opportunity for new topics to write about. Unfortunately it's a bit like a feeding frenzy at the moment and it's getting more and more difficult to pick the best book to buy out of the dozens of different books all discussing the same subject matter. In any case, we still love C++ and MFC :) cheers, Chris Maunder

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          Brian Hart Here is what I think you can do. Write a negative .NET book. Rant about how much you hate .NET, how it's so damn slow, how it's so damn bulky etc. Compare everything with ATL and show how all that multiple assembly version thing is just another form of DLL hell. Got it? And tell me today itself whether you are gonna write it, you better do it fast, because others might grab my wonderful idea before you do that. Regards Nish Idea-Man Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut

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          "Brian Hart Here is what I think you can do. Write a negative .NET book." And I will be the first one to buy it. ;)

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            Reno Tiko wrote: Writing articles or books for money doesn't pay the bills FYI they say that J.K.Rowling, author of the Harry Potter books, is very likely to become the first billion dollar writer. i.e. She is likely to earn over a billion dollars on the books she has written (plus merchandise of course.) Also other authors have made a good living off of writing. e.g. Stephen King, Arthur C Clarke, Wilbur Smith etc. But I do agree that it is LIKELY that you will not pay your bills by being an author :) Just like artists or open source programmers. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge Martin Marvinski wrote: Unfortunatly Deep Throat isn't my cup of tea Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront

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            Yeah right, I can see it now, C++/MFC action figures:omg: :-D :-D --- Sonork 100.11743 Chicken Little It may be that your sole purpose in life is simply to serve as a warning to others.

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              Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: I dont think anyone here who has written anything for CP had money as an intention. Not at all. Fame and fun perhaps. The phrase I like to use when nailing down why we do what we do is: peer respect It is like fame, just not as arrogant or self centered. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge Martin Marvinski wrote: Unfortunatly Deep Throat isn't my cup of tea Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront

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              Paul Watson wrote: It is like fame, just not as arrogant or self centered. hey the desire for fame might be a self-centered thought, but fame by itself is not a self-centered thing at all. As for arrogance, it depends on the person. I believe you can be famous and need not be necessaruly arrogant about it Nish p.s. But my favorite guru - Joe Newcomer - is verrryyy arrogant and I think that's really cool! Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut

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              • N Nish Nishant

                Brian Hart Here is what I think you can do. Write a negative .NET book. Rant about how much you hate .NET, how it's so damn slow, how it's so damn bulky etc. Compare everything with ATL and show how all that multiple assembly version thing is just another form of DLL hell. Got it? And tell me today itself whether you are gonna write it, you better do it fast, because others might grab my wonderful idea before you do that. Regards Nish Idea-Man Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut

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                Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: And tell me today itself whether you are gonna write it, you better do it fast, because others might grab my wonderful idea before you do that. You go ahead :) Sincerely Yours, Brian Hart "And that's the news from Lake Wobegon, where all the women are strong, the men are good-looking, and the children are above-average." - Garrison Keillor

                Regards,

                Dr. Brian Hart
                drbrianhart343@gmail.com email
                LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-brian-hart-astrophysicist-veteran/

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                  "Brian Hart Here is what I think you can do. Write a negative .NET book." And I will be the first one to buy it. ;)

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                  Brian, here is your first customer :-) Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut

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                  • R Reno Tiko

                    Brian Hart wrote: I need to publish for money so I can eat, Writing articles or books for money doesn't pay the bills. Why don't you take your MFC/C++ knowledege and do some consulting or write your own program and then sell it. Anything beats writing articles or books. I don't think most of the article or book writers do it for the money either, they just love sharing their knowledge and/or code with others. Basically giving back to the community from which they've learned so much from. (I've yet to give back to CodeProject and CodeGuru which have helped me immensely due to the generous authors who have taken their free time to donate to the community). It's sort of similar to that "Give it Forward" (or something like that) movie where one person starts a chain reaction of good things which results in others starting their own help someone else chain reaction.

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                    Brian C Hart
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                    Reno Tiko wrote: I don't think most of the article or book writers do it for the money either, Of course not. I completely agree - my goal is to share what I know with others. I have done this for three years on that basis, and hope for the chance to do it more. :) Sincerely Yours, Brian Hart "And that's the news from Lake Wobegon, where all the women are strong, the men are good-looking, and the children are above-average." - Garrison Keillor

                    Regards,

                    Dr. Brian Hart
                    drbrianhart343@gmail.com email
                    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-brian-hart-astrophysicist-veteran/

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                    • Brian C HartB Brian C Hart

                      Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: And tell me today itself whether you are gonna write it, you better do it fast, because others might grab my wonderful idea before you do that. You go ahead :) Sincerely Yours, Brian Hart "And that's the news from Lake Wobegon, where all the women are strong, the men are good-looking, and the children are above-average." - Garrison Keillor

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                      :-( Seems like you didnt like my idea :-( Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut

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                      • C Chris Maunder

                        The thing with .NET is that because it's so new it puts all content providers (books, magazines, websites) back on an even playing field, with the thought that whoever has the most content the soonest and makes the biggest noise about it will ultimitely win when .NET matures in the coming months and years. Whatever 'winning' means. Another thing is that there are SO many MFC, C++, ATL, COM etc etc books and articles out there that many authors and publishing houses are jumping on the opportunity for new topics to write about. Unfortunately it's a bit like a feeding frenzy at the moment and it's getting more and more difficult to pick the best book to buy out of the dozens of different books all discussing the same subject matter. In any case, we still love C++ and MFC :) cheers, Chris Maunder

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                        Chris AS an addendum to your comments, I should say that I havent heard of a book on Managed C++ so far. There are so many C# and VB.NET books but perhaps someone could write an introduction to .NET programming using Managed C++ Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut

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                        • C Chris Maunder

                          The thing with .NET is that because it's so new it puts all content providers (books, magazines, websites) back on an even playing field, with the thought that whoever has the most content the soonest and makes the biggest noise about it will ultimitely win when .NET matures in the coming months and years. Whatever 'winning' means. Another thing is that there are SO many MFC, C++, ATL, COM etc etc books and articles out there that many authors and publishing houses are jumping on the opportunity for new topics to write about. Unfortunately it's a bit like a feeding frenzy at the moment and it's getting more and more difficult to pick the best book to buy out of the dozens of different books all discussing the same subject matter. In any case, we still love C++ and MFC :) cheers, Chris Maunder

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                          Thank you for all the help sorting stuff out, guys. It really is one of the things that makes CP such a good site. :) Besides all the articles :) I totally want to say that whatever my original message might imply, I know and understand the reasoning behind the public-domainedness of CP -- keep it up Chris. I thank all of you for sharing your opinions and ideas! Sincerely Yours, Brian Hart "And that's the news from Lake Wobegon, where all the women are strong, the men are good-looking, and the children are above-average." - Garrison Keillor

                          Regards,

                          Dr. Brian Hart
                          drbrianhart343@gmail.com email
                          LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-brian-hart-astrophysicist-veteran/

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                            :-( Seems like you didnt like my idea :-( Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut

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                            Not at all, that's cool! :) Funny I even brought up what I did originally :-O Being that I'm in the last semester of school, a book is too big of a time commitment -- learned that from a book project I just got this March -- fell through because there was not enough time. Sincerely Yours, Brian Hart "And that's the news from Lake Wobegon, where all the women are strong, the men are good-looking, and the children are above-average." - Garrison Keillor

                            Regards,

                            Dr. Brian Hart
                            drbrianhart343@gmail.com email
                            LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-brian-hart-astrophysicist-veteran/

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                            • Brian C HartB Brian C Hart

                              Reno Tiko wrote: I don't think most of the article or book writers do it for the money either, Of course not. I completely agree - my goal is to share what I know with others. I have done this for three years on that basis, and hope for the chance to do it more. :) Sincerely Yours, Brian Hart "And that's the news from Lake Wobegon, where all the women are strong, the men are good-looking, and the children are above-average." - Garrison Keillor

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                              That's nice Brian, very nice :-) Cheers Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut

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                                Paul Watson wrote: I would be careful how you make that sound. We all know the reason for CP, we all know how it works and we all know why we write for it. Money isn't it Exactly. I dont think anyone here who has written anything for CP had money as an intention. Not at all. Fame and fun perhaps. But not money. Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut

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                                Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: I dont think anyone here who has written anything for CP had money as an intention. Not at all. Fame and fun perhaps. But not money. Hey, I certainly support that. After all, I've written about 11 articles for CP myself, and loved every minute of it. I plan to write more. Please don't get me wrong -- CP is definitely the way to go. Sincerely Yours, Brian Hart "And that's the news from Lake Wobegon, where all the women are strong, the men are good-looking, and the children are above-average." - Garrison Keillor

                                Regards,

                                Dr. Brian Hart
                                drbrianhart343@gmail.com email
                                LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-brian-hart-astrophysicist-veteran/

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                                  Chris AS an addendum to your comments, I should say that I havent heard of a book on Managed C++ so far. There are so many C# and VB.NET books but perhaps someone could write an introduction to .NET programming using Managed C++ Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut

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                                  Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: someone could write an introduction to .NET programming using Managed C++ There's a thought... Sincerely Yours, Brian Hart "And that's the news from Lake Wobegon, where all the women are strong, the men are good-looking, and the children are above-average." - Garrison Keillor

                                  Regards,

                                  Dr. Brian Hart
                                  drbrianhart343@gmail.com email
                                  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-brian-hart-astrophysicist-veteran/

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                                  • Brian C HartB Brian C Hart

                                    Not at all, that's cool! :) Funny I even brought up what I did originally :-O Being that I'm in the last semester of school, a book is too big of a time commitment -- learned that from a book project I just got this March -- fell through because there was not enough time. Sincerely Yours, Brian Hart "And that's the news from Lake Wobegon, where all the women are strong, the men are good-looking, and the children are above-average." - Garrison Keillor

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                                    Alright! That's better now :-) Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut

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                                    • Brian C HartB Brian C Hart

                                      Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: someone could write an introduction to .NET programming using Managed C++ There's a thought... Sincerely Yours, Brian Hart "And that's the news from Lake Wobegon, where all the women are strong, the men are good-looking, and the children are above-average." - Garrison Keillor

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                                      I thought a certain reader by the name of B. Hart was working on a MC++ book...? cheers, Chris Maunder

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                                      • Brian C HartB Brian C Hart

                                        Is it just me, or is the only venue where you can publish trivial (and not trivial) MFC/C++ handy-to-know kind of articles is The Code Project?? And Chris doesn't even pay anybody who contributes. CUJ and WDJ pay, but they are extremely picky and want you to be a Computer Scientist about what you write. MSDN magazine? Nothin' but .NET. I need to publish for money so I can eat, but problem is I don't know how to make sense of this C#/.NET ...stuff... and it seems that conference talks or publishing venues won't publish anything else... ARRGH! This is SO frustrating! Any suggestions? Is there anybody that can identify with this?? :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: Sincerely Yours, Brian Hart "And that's the news from Lake Wobegon, where all the women are strong, the men are good-looking, and the children are above-average." - Garrison Keillor

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                                        I've been published once by WDJ, will be in again in March and then the graphics issue ( I think August ). I've submitted quite a few to WDJ, and some to CUJ ( yet to crack them though ), but I know nothing about .Net, and I'm hardly a Computer Scientist. I think the hard part is identifying something they haven't covered that they are likely to think will sell. That's been the answer to most of my proposals - we already did something like that. I have never even considered submitting to MSDN. Christian I have come to clean zee pooollll. - Michael Martin Dec 30, 2001

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                                        • Brian C HartB Brian C Hart

                                          Is it just me, or is the only venue where you can publish trivial (and not trivial) MFC/C++ handy-to-know kind of articles is The Code Project?? And Chris doesn't even pay anybody who contributes. CUJ and WDJ pay, but they are extremely picky and want you to be a Computer Scientist about what you write. MSDN magazine? Nothin' but .NET. I need to publish for money so I can eat, but problem is I don't know how to make sense of this C#/.NET ...stuff... and it seems that conference talks or publishing venues won't publish anything else... ARRGH! This is SO frustrating! Any suggestions? Is there anybody that can identify with this?? :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: Sincerely Yours, Brian Hart "And that's the news from Lake Wobegon, where all the women are strong, the men are good-looking, and the children are above-average." - Garrison Keillor

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                                          In years gone by I've had articles published in Dr.Dobbs Journal, WDJ, .EXE, Byte and others and I am no computer scientist. In fact I've never been asked about my qualifications. Maybe things have changed. Tis a real pity if that's the case. Neville Franks, Author of ED for Windows. www.getsoft.com

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