Planet of the Apes
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I've covered the whole, we get movies much later than the rest of the world before. Plus I watched it on video so it was even longer to wait for release. I have a problem with the ending of Planet of the Apes. To me it wasn't logical (if any time travel plot ever is) and I am hoping someone truly understands what happened and can explain it to me. The year was 2029 and Marky Mark (minus the Funky Bunch) and his pod is sucked 700 hundred odd years into the future. Meanwhile his mother ship the Oberon is sucked at least a few thousand years into the past. The Apes from the Oberon kill the humans and then evolve into the dominant species. Marky Mark appears in the time of a General Thade who wants to kill all humans on this planet (I don't believe it is Earth). Thade is a direct descendant of Simos (leader of original killer Apes from Oberon). At end of movie Thade is trapped in wreck of Oberon and Marky Mark escapes back to Earth 2029. Once there a statue of General Thade is there in place of Abraham Lincoln. Problem for me is that Thade doesn't exist for another 700 odd years and was on another planet. Even if he escaped he had no way to travel to Earth or back in time. Even if the whole thing was set on Earth and the Oberon existed on earth thousands of years before 2029, Thade still didn't exist yet. So he couldn't have been an historical figure made into a statue. Can someone explain how this was meant to actual work? If your too young or old too remember, Mark Wahlberg was lead singer of Marky Mark and the Funky Bunch in either the late Eighties or early Ninties. Even though he has become a legitimate actor (and a fine one in my opinion) I still think of him as a pathetic singing wannabe. Michael Martin Australia mmartin@netspace.net.au "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone
Hey Michael You got the humor didnt you? Hope you are not pissed off! Nish :-) Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut
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Hey Michael You got the humor didnt you? Hope you are not pissed off! Nish :-) Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut
The reason why I ask is today morning I send a joke mail internally in my office and some people are quite pissed with me :-( Obviously they didnt get the joke-part of it :-( Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut
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The reason why I ask is today morning I send a joke mail internally in my office and some people are quite pissed with me :-( Obviously they didnt get the joke-part of it :-( Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut
Where is everyone's sense of humor. Like, when someone wants to have a humor go at me, the whole world joins in. The moment I decide to crack a few for a change, I am charged of accutely nasty behaviour. This is an unfair society. I am thinking those apes managed far better :-( Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut
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Where is everyone's sense of humor. Like, when someone wants to have a humor go at me, the whole world joins in. The moment I decide to crack a few for a change, I am charged of accutely nasty behaviour. This is an unfair society. I am thinking those apes managed far better :-( Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut
Nish I am not pissed off. Didn't get all of the joke, but did know that it was a joke. Don't worry about other wankers that are upset. It is their problem that they don't understand and it is not worth the energy on your part worrying. Forget then and if all else fails tell them to fuck off. Michael Martin Australia mmartin@netspace.net.au "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone
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I've covered the whole, we get movies much later than the rest of the world before. Plus I watched it on video so it was even longer to wait for release. I have a problem with the ending of Planet of the Apes. To me it wasn't logical (if any time travel plot ever is) and I am hoping someone truly understands what happened and can explain it to me. The year was 2029 and Marky Mark (minus the Funky Bunch) and his pod is sucked 700 hundred odd years into the future. Meanwhile his mother ship the Oberon is sucked at least a few thousand years into the past. The Apes from the Oberon kill the humans and then evolve into the dominant species. Marky Mark appears in the time of a General Thade who wants to kill all humans on this planet (I don't believe it is Earth). Thade is a direct descendant of Simos (leader of original killer Apes from Oberon). At end of movie Thade is trapped in wreck of Oberon and Marky Mark escapes back to Earth 2029. Once there a statue of General Thade is there in place of Abraham Lincoln. Problem for me is that Thade doesn't exist for another 700 odd years and was on another planet. Even if he escaped he had no way to travel to Earth or back in time. Even if the whole thing was set on Earth and the Oberon existed on earth thousands of years before 2029, Thade still didn't exist yet. So he couldn't have been an historical figure made into a statue. Can someone explain how this was meant to actual work? If your too young or old too remember, Mark Wahlberg was lead singer of Marky Mark and the Funky Bunch in either the late Eighties or early Ninties. Even though he has become a legitimate actor (and a fine one in my opinion) I still think of him as a pathetic singing wannabe. Michael Martin Australia mmartin@netspace.net.au "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone
How can we be sure that the statue is of general thade?. Most of the apes in the movie looks similar except for their costumes and ornaments. Vimal
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Nish I am not pissed off. Didn't get all of the joke, but did know that it was a joke. Don't worry about other wankers that are upset. It is their problem that they don't understand and it is not worth the energy on your part worrying. Forget then and if all else fails tell them to fuck off. Michael Martin Australia mmartin@netspace.net.au "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone
Dear Michael Martin First of all, my humble apologies! I accidentally mistook you for Michael P Butler. And my posts were all compiled with that mental impression. I feel foolish now... Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut
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I've covered the whole, we get movies much later than the rest of the world before. Plus I watched it on video so it was even longer to wait for release. I have a problem with the ending of Planet of the Apes. To me it wasn't logical (if any time travel plot ever is) and I am hoping someone truly understands what happened and can explain it to me. The year was 2029 and Marky Mark (minus the Funky Bunch) and his pod is sucked 700 hundred odd years into the future. Meanwhile his mother ship the Oberon is sucked at least a few thousand years into the past. The Apes from the Oberon kill the humans and then evolve into the dominant species. Marky Mark appears in the time of a General Thade who wants to kill all humans on this planet (I don't believe it is Earth). Thade is a direct descendant of Simos (leader of original killer Apes from Oberon). At end of movie Thade is trapped in wreck of Oberon and Marky Mark escapes back to Earth 2029. Once there a statue of General Thade is there in place of Abraham Lincoln. Problem for me is that Thade doesn't exist for another 700 odd years and was on another planet. Even if he escaped he had no way to travel to Earth or back in time. Even if the whole thing was set on Earth and the Oberon existed on earth thousands of years before 2029, Thade still didn't exist yet. So he couldn't have been an historical figure made into a statue. Can someone explain how this was meant to actual work? If your too young or old too remember, Mark Wahlberg was lead singer of Marky Mark and the Funky Bunch in either the late Eighties or early Ninties. Even though he has become a legitimate actor (and a fine one in my opinion) I still think of him as a pathetic singing wannabe. Michael Martin Australia mmartin@netspace.net.au "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone
Michael Martin wrote: Can someone explain how this was meant to actual work? After reading your email I hired the movie tonight. I think the *theory* is ony of alternate realities, but in practice it's the case that he obviously would not stay on the ape planet when he's got a ship, and it would be un-Tim Burton to see him arrive safely home. Christian I have come to clean zee pooollll. - Michael Martin Dec 30, 2001
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I believe I remember seeing an Orangutang on the Oberon. Though you are correct about no Gorillas. Also wasn't one of the senators that attended dinner early in the movie a Bobbon? Michael Martin Australia mmartin@netspace.net.au "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone
Michael Martin wrote: Bobbon? Do you mean a bobbin ( part of a sewing machine ) or a baboon ( type of ape ) ? Christian I have come to clean zee pooollll. - Michael Martin Dec 30, 2001
Sonork ID 100.10002:MeanManOz
I live in Bob's HungOut now
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I've covered the whole, we get movies much later than the rest of the world before. Plus I watched it on video so it was even longer to wait for release. I have a problem with the ending of Planet of the Apes. To me it wasn't logical (if any time travel plot ever is) and I am hoping someone truly understands what happened and can explain it to me. The year was 2029 and Marky Mark (minus the Funky Bunch) and his pod is sucked 700 hundred odd years into the future. Meanwhile his mother ship the Oberon is sucked at least a few thousand years into the past. The Apes from the Oberon kill the humans and then evolve into the dominant species. Marky Mark appears in the time of a General Thade who wants to kill all humans on this planet (I don't believe it is Earth). Thade is a direct descendant of Simos (leader of original killer Apes from Oberon). At end of movie Thade is trapped in wreck of Oberon and Marky Mark escapes back to Earth 2029. Once there a statue of General Thade is there in place of Abraham Lincoln. Problem for me is that Thade doesn't exist for another 700 odd years and was on another planet. Even if he escaped he had no way to travel to Earth or back in time. Even if the whole thing was set on Earth and the Oberon existed on earth thousands of years before 2029, Thade still didn't exist yet. So he couldn't have been an historical figure made into a statue. Can someone explain how this was meant to actual work? If your too young or old too remember, Mark Wahlberg was lead singer of Marky Mark and the Funky Bunch in either the late Eighties or early Ninties. Even though he has become a legitimate actor (and a fine one in my opinion) I still think of him as a pathetic singing wannabe. Michael Martin Australia mmartin@netspace.net.au "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone
Michael Martin wrote: Can someone explain how this was meant to actual work? I think your problem is that you are comparing the original film and book to this new film. The director directly tells you that it is not a literal and factual remake. He takes a lot of liberties with the original story. As far as I know the planet Marky Mark goes back to, with the apes on it in stone age form, is NOT Earth in the future. It is a totally different world or rather an alternate universe with a different timeline. In the book it was Earth in the future, in this latest movie it is not. So that clears up the whole problem of a "logical ending". However saying all that I thought the movie sucked and the ending was even more disapointing than the ending of The Neutronean Alchemist (a series of books by Hamilton.) In fact I felt physically ill by the director thinking that he could end a film like that and expect people to like it! Calling it a cliche would be an insult to cliches. bottom line? nobody should care much about the movie or whether it is logical. The only good bit is the credits at the end saying you can go home now and cry in frustration. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge Martin Marvinski wrote: Unfortunatly Deep Throat isn't my cup of tea Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront
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I've covered the whole, we get movies much later than the rest of the world before. Plus I watched it on video so it was even longer to wait for release. I have a problem with the ending of Planet of the Apes. To me it wasn't logical (if any time travel plot ever is) and I am hoping someone truly understands what happened and can explain it to me. The year was 2029 and Marky Mark (minus the Funky Bunch) and his pod is sucked 700 hundred odd years into the future. Meanwhile his mother ship the Oberon is sucked at least a few thousand years into the past. The Apes from the Oberon kill the humans and then evolve into the dominant species. Marky Mark appears in the time of a General Thade who wants to kill all humans on this planet (I don't believe it is Earth). Thade is a direct descendant of Simos (leader of original killer Apes from Oberon). At end of movie Thade is trapped in wreck of Oberon and Marky Mark escapes back to Earth 2029. Once there a statue of General Thade is there in place of Abraham Lincoln. Problem for me is that Thade doesn't exist for another 700 odd years and was on another planet. Even if he escaped he had no way to travel to Earth or back in time. Even if the whole thing was set on Earth and the Oberon existed on earth thousands of years before 2029, Thade still didn't exist yet. So he couldn't have been an historical figure made into a statue. Can someone explain how this was meant to actual work? If your too young or old too remember, Mark Wahlberg was lead singer of Marky Mark and the Funky Bunch in either the late Eighties or early Ninties. Even though he has become a legitimate actor (and a fine one in my opinion) I still think of him as a pathetic singing wannabe. Michael Martin Australia mmartin@netspace.net.au "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone
This URL has some comments on the ending: http://www.movieprop.com/tvandmovie/PlanetoftheApes/2001ending.htm Ed
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Hello Mr Martin [self made joke connoisseur], You are right. The movie's ending was illogical, totally. I hate illogical endings, because we waste 3-4 minutes trying to give it some logical meaning and finally realize that the dumb movie director used this just for a cheap anti-climax or because he thought that would pave the way for a next part. But basically you can give it this sorta logic. Perhaps he skipped a few reality planes and ended up in a reality plane where this ape man general exists 700 years in the future on earth. In this parallel reality or dimension earth is full of apes. I hope this has satisfied your curiosity and I hope you ca now go back to writing that volume you are working on titled, "How to analyze and assess good solid jokes?". Your truly Retired Expert Joke Cracker Nish p.s. [LOL] Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut
Just curious Nish, I thought you don't really watch movies in India (too busy with your computer ~15 hours/day). That's what you wrote recently, Am I wrong? It's good to read that you have seen the movie. I also hate the ending, I used to like the TV series. - God bless the World
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I've covered the whole, we get movies much later than the rest of the world before. Plus I watched it on video so it was even longer to wait for release. I have a problem with the ending of Planet of the Apes. To me it wasn't logical (if any time travel plot ever is) and I am hoping someone truly understands what happened and can explain it to me. The year was 2029 and Marky Mark (minus the Funky Bunch) and his pod is sucked 700 hundred odd years into the future. Meanwhile his mother ship the Oberon is sucked at least a few thousand years into the past. The Apes from the Oberon kill the humans and then evolve into the dominant species. Marky Mark appears in the time of a General Thade who wants to kill all humans on this planet (I don't believe it is Earth). Thade is a direct descendant of Simos (leader of original killer Apes from Oberon). At end of movie Thade is trapped in wreck of Oberon and Marky Mark escapes back to Earth 2029. Once there a statue of General Thade is there in place of Abraham Lincoln. Problem for me is that Thade doesn't exist for another 700 odd years and was on another planet. Even if he escaped he had no way to travel to Earth or back in time. Even if the whole thing was set on Earth and the Oberon existed on earth thousands of years before 2029, Thade still didn't exist yet. So he couldn't have been an historical figure made into a statue. Can someone explain how this was meant to actual work? If your too young or old too remember, Mark Wahlberg was lead singer of Marky Mark and the Funky Bunch in either the late Eighties or early Ninties. Even though he has become a legitimate actor (and a fine one in my opinion) I still think of him as a pathetic singing wannabe. Michael Martin Australia mmartin@netspace.net.au "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone
Another thing... - The movie suggest that only the "Apes" can land their spacecraft safely on "ANY Earth Type" of planet.
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I've covered the whole, we get movies much later than the rest of the world before. Plus I watched it on video so it was even longer to wait for release. I have a problem with the ending of Planet of the Apes. To me it wasn't logical (if any time travel plot ever is) and I am hoping someone truly understands what happened and can explain it to me. The year was 2029 and Marky Mark (minus the Funky Bunch) and his pod is sucked 700 hundred odd years into the future. Meanwhile his mother ship the Oberon is sucked at least a few thousand years into the past. The Apes from the Oberon kill the humans and then evolve into the dominant species. Marky Mark appears in the time of a General Thade who wants to kill all humans on this planet (I don't believe it is Earth). Thade is a direct descendant of Simos (leader of original killer Apes from Oberon). At end of movie Thade is trapped in wreck of Oberon and Marky Mark escapes back to Earth 2029. Once there a statue of General Thade is there in place of Abraham Lincoln. Problem for me is that Thade doesn't exist for another 700 odd years and was on another planet. Even if he escaped he had no way to travel to Earth or back in time. Even if the whole thing was set on Earth and the Oberon existed on earth thousands of years before 2029, Thade still didn't exist yet. So he couldn't have been an historical figure made into a statue. Can someone explain how this was meant to actual work? If your too young or old too remember, Mark Wahlberg was lead singer of Marky Mark and the Funky Bunch in either the late Eighties or early Ninties. Even though he has become a legitimate actor (and a fine one in my opinion) I still think of him as a pathetic singing wannabe. Michael Martin Australia mmartin@netspace.net.au "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone
I think you should see the old Planet of the Apes movies ( with Charlton Heston in 1968 and the 4 other ) http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/stores/series/-/247/VHStape//ref=pd\_ser\_bind/102-9361269-4438526 Those films are much better than the new remake. Stephane "It is ridiculous to claim that video games influence children. For instance, if PacMan affected kids born in the eighties, we should by now have a bunch of teenagers who run around in darkened rooms eating pills while listening to monotonous electronic music."
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How can we be sure that the statue is of general thade?. Most of the apes in the movie looks similar except for their costumes and ornaments. Vimal
It says so in big letters on the stone plague behind the statue! ________________ David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk "My grandfather once told me that there are two kinds of people: those who work and those who take the credit. He told me to try to be in the first group, there was less competition there" - Gandhi
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Michael Martin wrote: Can someone explain how this was meant to actual work? I think your problem is that you are comparing the original film and book to this new film. The director directly tells you that it is not a literal and factual remake. He takes a lot of liberties with the original story. As far as I know the planet Marky Mark goes back to, with the apes on it in stone age form, is NOT Earth in the future. It is a totally different world or rather an alternate universe with a different timeline. In the book it was Earth in the future, in this latest movie it is not. So that clears up the whole problem of a "logical ending". However saying all that I thought the movie sucked and the ending was even more disapointing than the ending of The Neutronean Alchemist (a series of books by Hamilton.) In fact I felt physically ill by the director thinking that he could end a film like that and expect people to like it! Calling it a cliche would be an insult to cliches. bottom line? nobody should care much about the movie or whether it is logical. The only good bit is the credits at the end saying you can go home now and cry in frustration. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge Martin Marvinski wrote: Unfortunatly Deep Throat isn't my cup of tea Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront
Paul Watson wrote: I think your problem is that you are comparing the original film and book to this new film. No, as I have never seen the original film/tv series or read the books. Michael Martin Australia mmartin@netspace.net.au "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone
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Just curious Nish, I thought you don't really watch movies in India (too busy with your computer ~15 hours/day). That's what you wrote recently, Am I wrong? It's good to read that you have seen the movie. I also hate the ending, I used to like the TV series. - God bless the World
Well :-) I do watch the odd movie or two Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut
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Paul Watson wrote: I think your problem is that you are comparing the original film and book to this new film. No, as I have never seen the original film/tv series or read the books. Michael Martin Australia mmartin@netspace.net.au "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone
Michael Martin wrote: No, as I have never seen the original film/tv series or read the books. Ok then how did you get the idea of a future earth? That is from the book and first movie. Just curious :) regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge Martin Marvinski wrote: Unfortunatly Deep Throat isn't my cup of tea Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront