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  • A Anna Jayne Metcalfe

    Mustafa Demirhan wrote: Did you realize that they have not mention about BCGControlBar? LOL! :laugh: I noticed that too... While we're on the subject does anyone have any experience of (or links about) converting a CJLibrary (6.09) project to BCGControlBar? I'm thinking of converting ResOrg, but haven't got around to it yet...:rolleyes: Andy Metcalfe - Sonardyne International Ltd

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    Andy Metcalfe wrote: While we're on the subject does anyone have any experience of (or links about) converting a CJLibrary (6.09) project to BCGControlBar? You had better to create a new project using BCGControlBar Wizard and then use the best method: First copy and then paste. ;) I dont believe that there is a better solution :( Kind regards Mustafa Demirhan http://www.macroangel.com Sonork ID 100.9935:zoltrix

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      Did you realize that they have not mention about BCGControlBar? Do you think that they forgot it? The answer is NOOOO. The did not mention about BCGControlBar because they know that is is better! It is much more better! ;) Kind regards Mustafa Demirhan http://www.macroangel.com Sonork ID 100.9935:zoltrix

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      Christian Graus
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      Mustafa Demirhan wrote: Do you think that they forgot it? The answer is NOOOO. The did not mention about BCGControlBar because they know that is is better! It is much more better Maybe they didn't mention it because it is *as good* on the correct drawing front, but I'm interested to know why this BCG thing has such a religious fervour surrounding it. How is it better ? Christian I have come to clean zee pooollll. - Michael Martin Dec 30, 2001

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        Mustafa Demirhan wrote: Do you think that they forgot it? The answer is NOOOO. The did not mention about BCGControlBar because they know that is is better! It is much more better Maybe they didn't mention it because it is *as good* on the correct drawing front, but I'm interested to know why this BCG thing has such a religious fervour surrounding it. How is it better ? Christian I have come to clean zee pooollll. - Michael Martin Dec 30, 2001

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        OK. Let me explain. I was using CodeJock's library when it was freeware and I was happy with that. But it is no longer freeware. Because of this, I tried other libraries and loved BCGControlBar. Because it is much easier to use and the support is great. They also offer big discounts to shareware authors and they offer if for free for freeware authors. This is really really a good behaviour ;) CodeJock's library was also a good library but the support was not as good as BCG's support. Anyway, I loved BCGControlBar and looking foward to purchase the professional version ;) Kind regards Mustafa Demirhan http://www.macroangel.com Sonork ID 100.9935:zoltrix

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        • M Mustafa Demirhan

          Andy Metcalfe wrote: While we're on the subject does anyone have any experience of (or links about) converting a CJLibrary (6.09) project to BCGControlBar? You had better to create a new project using BCGControlBar Wizard and then use the best method: First copy and then paste. ;) I dont believe that there is a better solution :( Kind regards Mustafa Demirhan http://www.macroangel.com Sonork ID 100.9935:zoltrix

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          Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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          I thought that would be the case, but there's no harm in asking. One day... Andy Metcalfe - Sonardyne International Ltd

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          • M Mustafa Demirhan

            OK. Let me explain. I was using CodeJock's library when it was freeware and I was happy with that. But it is no longer freeware. Because of this, I tried other libraries and loved BCGControlBar. Because it is much easier to use and the support is great. They also offer big discounts to shareware authors and they offer if for free for freeware authors. This is really really a good behaviour ;) CodeJock's library was also a good library but the support was not as good as BCG's support. Anyway, I loved BCGControlBar and looking foward to purchase the professional version ;) Kind regards Mustafa Demirhan http://www.macroangel.com Sonork ID 100.9935:zoltrix

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            Christian Graus
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            Mustafa Demirhan wrote: I was using CodeJock's library when it was freeware and I was happy with that. I did not know it was ever free, although I believe BCG was. Christian I have come to clean zee pooollll. - Michael Martin Dec 30, 2001

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              Mustafa Demirhan wrote: I was using CodeJock's library when it was freeware and I was happy with that. I did not know it was ever free, although I believe BCG was. Christian I have come to clean zee pooollll. - Michael Martin Dec 30, 2001

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              Mustafa Demirhan
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              It was free when its name was CodeJock's Library. Then it became Xtreme library and after this it is no longer free :( :(( Kind regards Mustafa Demirhan http://www.macroangel.com Sonork ID 100.9935:zoltrix

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              • M Mustafa Demirhan

                OK. Let me explain. I was using CodeJock's library when it was freeware and I was happy with that. But it is no longer freeware. Because of this, I tried other libraries and loved BCGControlBar. Because it is much easier to use and the support is great. They also offer big discounts to shareware authors and they offer if for free for freeware authors. This is really really a good behaviour ;) CodeJock's library was also a good library but the support was not as good as BCG's support. Anyway, I loved BCGControlBar and looking foward to purchase the professional version ;) Kind regards Mustafa Demirhan http://www.macroangel.com Sonork ID 100.9935:zoltrix

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                Actually, to put my 2 cents in defense of the comparison page, the reason this was added was because of a request from one of our potential customers to see the cosmetic differences between the Xtreme Toolkit, Dundas and Stingray. Nothing more or less was intended here, if it offends to this extent, then perhaps we can remove it, however I didn't see how it would offend anyone (other than Stingray and Dundas) :-D The only reason BCG was not added in comparison was because their controls are drawn similar in nature to Dundas and Stingray, and is not as visually accurate in comparison to the original Office products. To address the concerns mentioned earlier: 1. Our support, product and customer relations, they have greatly improved over the past year. 2. We do offer discounts for shareware and academic use (up to %40). We have always extended these kind of discounts on each purchase, Considering the price of the product ($199-$299) I think this an excellent product for a fraction of the cost. You don't have to take my word for it; you can download the Dundas, Stingray, BCG and Xtreme Toolkit evaluations and do your own comparisons, when you have decided what you like best than use it. :-D Cheers, Kirk Stowell Codejock Software http://www.codejock.com

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                  Actually, to put my 2 cents in defense of the comparison page, the reason this was added was because of a request from one of our potential customers to see the cosmetic differences between the Xtreme Toolkit, Dundas and Stingray. Nothing more or less was intended here, if it offends to this extent, then perhaps we can remove it, however I didn't see how it would offend anyone (other than Stingray and Dundas) :-D The only reason BCG was not added in comparison was because their controls are drawn similar in nature to Dundas and Stingray, and is not as visually accurate in comparison to the original Office products. To address the concerns mentioned earlier: 1. Our support, product and customer relations, they have greatly improved over the past year. 2. We do offer discounts for shareware and academic use (up to %40). We have always extended these kind of discounts on each purchase, Considering the price of the product ($199-$299) I think this an excellent product for a fraction of the cost. You don't have to take my word for it; you can download the Dundas, Stingray, BCG and Xtreme Toolkit evaluations and do your own comparisons, when you have decided what you like best than use it. :-D Cheers, Kirk Stowell Codejock Software http://www.codejock.com

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                  Mustafa Demirhan
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                  Hi Kirk, Sorry if I was rude, but I just wrote my opinions ;) I tried your product about 1.5 years ago (My program, WinScheduler was using CJLibrary 6.09) and there may be many improvements. CJLibrary was really a good library. But , it is too late for me to change the library I am using for Macro Angel :( And I am really happy with BCGControlBar. PS: One of the biggest advantage of BCGControlBar is that it started supporting .NET like interface nearly 8-10 months ago. PPS: The new features of the professional version of BCGLibrary are really very appealing. Kind regards Mustafa Demirhan http://www.macroangel.com Sonork ID 100.9935:zoltrix

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                    Hi Kirk, Sorry if I was rude, but I just wrote my opinions ;) I tried your product about 1.5 years ago (My program, WinScheduler was using CJLibrary 6.09) and there may be many improvements. CJLibrary was really a good library. But , it is too late for me to change the library I am using for Macro Angel :( And I am really happy with BCGControlBar. PS: One of the biggest advantage of BCGControlBar is that it started supporting .NET like interface nearly 8-10 months ago. PPS: The new features of the professional version of BCGLibrary are really very appealing. Kind regards Mustafa Demirhan http://www.macroangel.com Sonork ID 100.9935:zoltrix

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                    Hi Mustafa, No harm, no foul! ;) BTW - I went ahead and removed the screen shots that exposed all of the cosmetic flaws with Dundas and Stingray products (ahem -- wouldn't want to offend anyone :cool: ). Also, I notice that you mention you cannot wait for the pro ver, if you like what you see in that you will love our up comming 2.0 release! Everything the pro version has x2! And without the $300 price hike... :-D Warm regards! Kirk Stowell Codejock Software http://www.codejock.com

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                      Hi Mustafa, No harm, no foul! ;) BTW - I went ahead and removed the screen shots that exposed all of the cosmetic flaws with Dundas and Stingray products (ahem -- wouldn't want to offend anyone :cool: ). Also, I notice that you mention you cannot wait for the pro ver, if you like what you see in that you will love our up comming 2.0 release! Everything the pro version has x2! And without the $300 price hike... :-D Warm regards! Kirk Stowell Codejock Software http://www.codejock.com

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                      Mustafa Demirhan
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                      Great! I am looking forward to seeing it. Thanks for your kind response ;) PS: The author of BCGControlBar is also a CPian. Now I learned that you are also a CPian with a very very cool id: 126. This means that I will surely be an XTremeToolkit fan very soon :) :) Kind regards Mustafa Demirhan http://www.macroangel.com Sonork ID 100.9935:zoltrix

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