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  • C Corinna John

    Why is it "Label" and "Table", not "Lable" and "Tabel" ? _________________________________ Vote '1' if you're too lazy for a discussion

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    73Zeppelin
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    After the Norman conquest of 1066 the English language was affected by the French conquerors. As a result, English absorbed alot of French spelling and vocabulary into itself. You will find that "table" in French is spelled "table" and, in fact, that is where English obtained the word. In the case of "label" vs "lable", the pronunciation would actually be quite different. Following the conquest, the version of English spoken prior to the invasion was much different than that spoken after.

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      Why is it "Label" and "Table", not "Lable" and "Tabel" ? _________________________________ Vote '1' if you're too lazy for a discussion

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      Ted Ferenc
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      As John Theal said English absorbed a lot of French words, plus others from many different languages, such as Latin, German, Indian etc. I have just finished a book by Melvyn Bragg - 'The Adventure of English' about how English evolved. There is also a TV series as well, if you get the chance see it, the book is 'diificult' to read the TV prog on the other hand is fascinatimg.


      "An expert is a person who has made all the mistakes that can be made in a very narrow field." - Neils Bohr

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        As John Theal said English absorbed a lot of French words, plus others from many different languages, such as Latin, German, Indian etc. I have just finished a book by Melvyn Bragg - 'The Adventure of English' about how English evolved. There is also a TV series as well, if you get the chance see it, the book is 'diificult' to read the TV prog on the other hand is fascinatimg.


        "An expert is a person who has made all the mistakes that can be made in a very narrow field." - Neils Bohr

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        73Zeppelin
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        That book is a good read. I finished it lately also.. I would recommend reading it to anyone interested in how English developed.

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        • C Corinna John

          Why is it "Label" and "Table", not "Lable" and "Tabel" ? _________________________________ Vote '1' if you're too lazy for a discussion

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          gehkadl
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          I have another problem according to the English language. In fact I am searching for a word. It means the height of a server you put into a 19" rack. The German word for it is "Höheneinheit". What's the English word?

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            Why is it "Label" and "Table", not "Lable" and "Tabel" ? _________________________________ Vote '1' if you're too lazy for a discussion

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            Navin
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            Good question. Why doesn't "food" rhyme with "good"? And how can the words continent, continental, and incontinent mean completely different things? An expert is somebody who learns more and more about less and less, until he knows absolutely everything about nothing.

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              After the Norman conquest of 1066 the English language was affected by the French conquerors. As a result, English absorbed alot of French spelling and vocabulary into itself. You will find that "table" in French is spelled "table" and, in fact, that is where English obtained the word. In the case of "label" vs "lable", the pronunciation would actually be quite different. Following the conquest, the version of English spoken prior to the invasion was much different than that spoken after.

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              Rob Graham
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              It's always France's fault....:-D Anger is the most impotent of passions. It effects nothing it goes about, and hurts the one who is possessed by it more than the one against whom it is directed. Carl Sandburg

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              • C Corinna John

                Why is it "Label" and "Table", not "Lable" and "Tabel" ? _________________________________ Vote '1' if you're too lazy for a discussion

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                markstu
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                Good question. Guess that's why the English language is one of the hardest to learn.

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                  Good question. Guess that's why the English language is one of the hardest to learn.

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                  gehkadl
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                  well, I think Latin is worse :laugh:

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                    Good question. Guess that's why the English language is one of the hardest to learn.

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                    David Crow
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                    Agreed. One example is the word "sort." It has multiple meanings, the one used depends on the context.


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                      Good question. Why doesn't "food" rhyme with "good"? And how can the words continent, continental, and incontinent mean completely different things? An expert is somebody who learns more and more about less and less, until he knows absolutely everything about nothing.

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                      Gary Thom
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                      If you come from Scotland (as I do) food and good do rhyme. :) Gary Rich Cook: "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning."

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                      • 7 73Zeppelin

                        After the Norman conquest of 1066 the English language was affected by the French conquerors. As a result, English absorbed alot of French spelling and vocabulary into itself. You will find that "table" in French is spelled "table" and, in fact, that is where English obtained the word. In the case of "label" vs "lable", the pronunciation would actually be quite different. Following the conquest, the version of English spoken prior to the invasion was much different than that spoken after.

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                        Denevers
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                        in fact, since the last century, the reverse phenomena is being observed. Lot of english words are creeping into french, mostly neologism. Although there is a french equivalent for 'walkman' (baladeur), almost nobody uses it. Some words even made it to official french, such as 'Parking', 'Weekend', and 'Stop'. Some words have funny story, such as 'Dispatch', which I often use in french (well, canadian french), the word itself is of course english, but comes from another word.. 'Dépêche' (french for hurry up). :doh: Denevers

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                          I have another problem according to the English language. In fact I am searching for a word. It means the height of a server you put into a 19" rack. The German word for it is "Höheneinheit". What's the English word?

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                          Paul Watson
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                          "dimension" might be close to what you are looking for. A computer will have dimensions which consists of height, width and depth. regards, Paul Watson South Africa The Code Project Pope Pius II said "The only prescription is more cowbell. "

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                            "dimension" might be close to what you are looking for. A computer will have dimensions which consists of height, width and depth. regards, Paul Watson South Africa The Code Project Pope Pius II said "The only prescription is more cowbell. "

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                            gehkadl
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                            Thank you for your answer, but I'm not sure this is the word I am looking for. Especially in connection with server or router there are special heights for this devices. This is kind of standard. So you could mount either two devices with this standard height or one device with the double height in the rack.

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                              well, I think Latin is worse :laugh:

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                              Mircea Puiu
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                              Really ?!? What about ... German ? :-) ( not mentioning the ... Vienerish - cool, how should I put this into English?) SkyWalker

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                              • C Corinna John

                                Why is it "Label" and "Table", not "Lable" and "Tabel" ? _________________________________ Vote '1' if you're too lazy for a discussion

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                                Mircea Puiu
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                                ...and what about the difference between "sin" and "pity" ? ;P SkyWalker

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                                  Thank you for your answer, but I'm not sure this is the word I am looking for. Especially in connection with server or router there are special heights for this devices. This is kind of standard. So you could mount either two devices with this standard height or one device with the double height in the rack.

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                                  Jesse Evans
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                                  Believe it or not, the name for the unit of measure you are looking for is U, as in a 1U rack (Google this and see what pops up). 1U is 1.75 inches (44.3 mm); multiples of this is the standard height of most rack-mount devices nowadays. 'til next we type... HAVE FUN!! -- Jesse

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                                    Good question. Why doesn't "food" rhyme with "good"? And how can the words continent, continental, and incontinent mean completely different things? An expert is somebody who learns more and more about less and less, until he knows absolutely everything about nothing.

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                                    Ted Ferenc
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                                    My favourite on this topic is http://www.nanceestar.com/KidsGrammar-Frame-Main.html well worth a read!


                                    "An expert is a person who has made all the mistakes that can be made in a very narrow field." - Neils Bohr

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                                      ...and what about the difference between "sin" and "pity" ? ;P SkyWalker

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                                      Ted Ferenc
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                                      Another is Pork (from the French) and pig. At one time they both meant the same, the animal, now their meanings have changed, but the phrase 'porker' is still used in some areas todescibe the animal.


                                      "An expert is a person who has made all the mistakes that can be made in a very narrow field." - Neils Bohr

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                                      • C Corinna John

                                        Why is it "Label" and "Table", not "Lable" and "Tabel" ? _________________________________ Vote '1' if you're too lazy for a discussion

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                                        Michael Dunn
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                                        Just 'cause ;) --Mike-- LINKS~! Ericahist | 1ClickPicGrabber | CP SearchBar v2.0.2 | C++ Forum FAQ | You Are Dumb Strange things are afoot at the U+004B U+20DD

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                                          Just 'cause ;) --Mike-- LINKS~! Ericahist | 1ClickPicGrabber | CP SearchBar v2.0.2 | C++ Forum FAQ | You Are Dumb Strange things are afoot at the U+004B U+20DD

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                                          FlyingTinman
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                                          One of my favorite English language oddities is the way a grammatically correct sentence can be constructed with one word repeated consecutively an unusual number of times. An easy to understand example is a sentence containing five consecutive instances of the word "and". A more convoluted but still grammatically correct sentence exists which contains eleven consecutive instances of the word "had". Any takers? .. Steve T

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