This COM thing is real cool!
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Hi Nish, Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: p.s. Did I hurt you? And are you a Notes fan? No Not at all...I will never be a fan of Lotus Notes, no not even in my dreams. Its just the other way around. :-) regards Kannan
Kannan Kalyanaraman wrote: No Not at all...I will never be a fan of Lotus Notes, no not even in my dreams. Its just the other way around. Whew! I am sure glad to hear that :-) Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut
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Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: Or is he still in those final pre-guru stages which take the longest period of time in the Guru attainment procedure? LOL :) I think I'm a guru of simple apartment-threaded COM. I know zilch about remoting COM calls or DCOM or any of that proxy/stub stuff (just never had to use it, and for shell extensions all you need is apartment-threaded objects ;)). --Mike-- "COM didn't solve the old version of DLL hell - it just provided us with a new and improved version of hell." -- John Simmons, 1/22/2002 My really out-of-date homepage Sonork - 100.10414 AcidHelm Big fan of Alyson Hannigan.
Michael Dunn wrote: I think I'm a guru of simple apartment-threaded COM apartment-threaded COM? Hmmm, I think I heard some stuff about single thread apartments and multiple thread apartments. I didnt really understand much about it and left it at that. I thought I'd come back to all that stuff later. Nish p.s. Brian Hart's got a series of intro articles for DCOM. I wonder whether we can use it to learn COM [and not just DCOM] p.s. to p.s. Any technical blunders in this post may please be forgiven considering that the poster is a raw newbie :-) Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut
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Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: My grammar sucks like Lotus Notes, Just out of curiosity, what makes you think Lotus Notes sucks... Cheers Kannan
Because it doesn't do what it says... Every single feature I've used (from v3 through v4.56) have tons of bugs. And these bugs will haunt you if you develop solutions in Notes. Your user can't see where's the bug, so YOU are the one that made the buggy software. Crivo Automated Credit Assessment
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Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: Or is he still in those final pre-guru stages which take the longest period of time in the Guru attainment procedure? LOL :) I think I'm a guru of simple apartment-threaded COM. I know zilch about remoting COM calls or DCOM or any of that proxy/stub stuff (just never had to use it, and for shell extensions all you need is apartment-threaded objects ;)). --Mike-- "COM didn't solve the old version of DLL hell - it just provided us with a new and improved version of hell." -- John Simmons, 1/22/2002 My really out-of-date homepage Sonork - 100.10414 AcidHelm Big fan of Alyson Hannigan.
Man, you are losing all the COM fun! Try to make a asynchronous COM call and see what I mean. Crivo Automated Credit Assessment
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Michael Dunn wrote: I think I'm a guru of simple apartment-threaded COM apartment-threaded COM? Hmmm, I think I heard some stuff about single thread apartments and multiple thread apartments. I didnt really understand much about it and left it at that. I thought I'd come back to all that stuff later. Nish p.s. Brian Hart's got a series of intro articles for DCOM. I wonder whether we can use it to learn COM [and not just DCOM] p.s. to p.s. Any technical blunders in this post may please be forgiven considering that the poster is a raw newbie :-) Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut
hey, the real fun in COM .. forget ATL WRAPPED COM - s it makes life easy But write in raw C++. thats more fun. u got the control - ur own marshalling thats more cool - ok finally try understanding Don Box book completely - then u become a real G U R U Ganesh M Ramaswamy
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hey, the real fun in COM .. forget ATL WRAPPED COM - s it makes life easy But write in raw C++. thats more fun. u got the control - ur own marshalling thats more cool - ok finally try understanding Don Box book completely - then u become a real G U R U Ganesh M Ramaswamy
Thanks for the tips, Ganesh. Regards Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut
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Yipppeee! I wrote my first COM thingie :-) Of course it's only the example in the book. But despite the fact that I knew what to expect I was still thrilled, so thrilled I can't control my excitement. I mean I wrote the DLL, registered it. Then I used it from VB. Cool eh? Then I used it from ASP. Cooler eh? I haven't figured out how to use it from C++ though :-( But damnit, I mean this is so cool. I mean why did MS bother with .NET when they already had this COM thing? I mean, what's the bloody purpose! I am the newbiest COM newbie in this planet currently. But even I can see that it is so damn cool! Yippeee again...... How many COMites are here? Is Mike Dunn the only COMite Guru we have? Or is he still in those final pre-guru stages which take the longest period of time in the Guru attainment procedure? Coli, are you hearing this buddy? I am a COMite now. Halley's COMite :-) Regards COM newbie Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut
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Yipppeee! I wrote my first COM thingie :-) Of course it's only the example in the book. But despite the fact that I knew what to expect I was still thrilled, so thrilled I can't control my excitement. I mean I wrote the DLL, registered it. Then I used it from VB. Cool eh? Then I used it from ASP. Cooler eh? I haven't figured out how to use it from C++ though :-( But damnit, I mean this is so cool. I mean why did MS bother with .NET when they already had this COM thing? I mean, what's the bloody purpose! I am the newbiest COM newbie in this planet currently. But even I can see that it is so damn cool! Yippeee again...... How many COMites are here? Is Mike Dunn the only COMite Guru we have? Or is he still in those final pre-guru stages which take the longest period of time in the Guru attainment procedure? Coli, are you hearing this buddy? I am a COMite now. Halley's COMite :-) Regards COM newbie Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut
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Nish wrote: "I am the newbiest COM newbie in this planet currently." You evolved to a COM newbie from a .NET guru? Congratulations! ;)
kfc wrote: a .NET guru? Joking right? :-) Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut
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Wait 'till ya hit connection points, and aggregation. Normski. - Professional Windows Programmer
I am still too vague about all those things to even get scared :-) Ignorance makes me brave :-) Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut
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Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: Or is he still in those final pre-guru stages which take the longest period of time in the Guru attainment procedure? LOL :) I think I'm a guru of simple apartment-threaded COM. I know zilch about remoting COM calls or DCOM or any of that proxy/stub stuff (just never had to use it, and for shell extensions all you need is apartment-threaded objects ;)). --Mike-- "COM didn't solve the old version of DLL hell - it just provided us with a new and improved version of hell." -- John Simmons, 1/22/2002 My really out-of-date homepage Sonork - 100.10414 AcidHelm Big fan of Alyson Hannigan.
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Yipppeee! I wrote my first COM thingie :-) Of course it's only the example in the book. But despite the fact that I knew what to expect I was still thrilled, so thrilled I can't control my excitement. I mean I wrote the DLL, registered it. Then I used it from VB. Cool eh? Then I used it from ASP. Cooler eh? I haven't figured out how to use it from C++ though :-( But damnit, I mean this is so cool. I mean why did MS bother with .NET when they already had this COM thing? I mean, what's the bloody purpose! I am the newbiest COM newbie in this planet currently. But even I can see that it is so damn cool! Yippeee again...... How many COMites are here? Is Mike Dunn the only COMite Guru we have? Or is he still in those final pre-guru stages which take the longest period of time in the Guru attainment procedure? Coli, are you hearing this buddy? I am a COMite now. Halley's COMite :-) Regards COM newbie Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut
Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: I mean why did MS bother with .NET when they already had this COM thing? I mean, what's the bloody purpose! COM rules, does it not ? I've not done enough after my initial forays, due to my trying to do stuff that is of use to my work. I wish I could, maybe soon I will :-) Running it from C++ is pretty easy. I've never run one from VB, for obvious reasons :-) Christian I have come to clean zee pooollll. - Michael Martin Dec 30, 2001 Picture the daffodil. And while you do that, I'll be over here going through your stuff. Picture a world without war, without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they would never expect it.
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I am still too vague about all those things to even get scared :-) Ignorance makes me brave :-) Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut
Connection points are WAY cool ( they let your COM object call the method that called it, like a callback ). I use it in my database program to report back on the files I am parsing. It was hell to get working though. Christian I have come to clean zee pooollll. - Michael Martin Dec 30, 2001 Picture the daffodil. And while you do that, I'll be over here going through your stuff. Picture a world without war, without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they would never expect it.
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Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: My grammar sucks like Lotus Notes, Just out of curiosity, what makes you think Lotus Notes sucks... Cheers Kannan
Kannan Kalyanaraman wrote: Just out of curiosity, what makes you think Lotus Notes sucks... Simple observation. There are entire websites devoted to how bad the UI is, and it's just an unpleasant experience from start to finish. No product has any excuse for requiring training for a group of programmers to learn how to use it to read email. Christian I have come to clean zee pooollll. - Michael Martin Dec 30, 2001 Picture the daffodil. And while you do that, I'll be over here going through your stuff. Picture a world without war, without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they would never expect it.
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I live in Bob's HungOut now
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Connection points are WAY cool ( they let your COM object call the method that called it, like a callback ). I use it in my database program to report back on the files I am parsing. It was hell to get working though. Christian I have come to clean zee pooollll. - Michael Martin Dec 30, 2001 Picture the daffodil. And while you do that, I'll be over here going through your stuff. Picture a world without war, without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they would never expect it.
Sonork ID 100.10002:MeanManOz
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Thanks for the info CG :-) ****Christian Graus wrote: It was hell to get working though That's where the fun is I guess :-) Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut
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Yipppeee! I wrote my first COM thingie :-) Of course it's only the example in the book. But despite the fact that I knew what to expect I was still thrilled, so thrilled I can't control my excitement. I mean I wrote the DLL, registered it. Then I used it from VB. Cool eh? Then I used it from ASP. Cooler eh? I haven't figured out how to use it from C++ though :-( But damnit, I mean this is so cool. I mean why did MS bother with .NET when they already had this COM thing? I mean, what's the bloody purpose! I am the newbiest COM newbie in this planet currently. But even I can see that it is so damn cool! Yippeee again...... How many COMites are here? Is Mike Dunn the only COMite Guru we have? Or is he still in those final pre-guru stages which take the longest period of time in the Guru attainment procedure? Coli, are you hearing this buddy? I am a COMite now. Halley's COMite :-) Regards COM newbie Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut
COM is wonderful. I've been writing COM objects for about four years now. Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: I mean why did MS bother with .NET when they already had this COM thing? I mean, what's the bloody purpose! .NET is based upon COM, without COM then .NET wouldn't exist. Welcome to the COM club. I recommend you read Essential COM by Don Box and Effective COM also by Don Box and if you can find a video of Don Box's COM dance. Michael :-)
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Thanks for the info CG :-) ****Christian Graus wrote: It was hell to get working though That's where the fun is I guess :-) Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut
Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: Christian Graus wrote: It was hell to get working though That's where the fun is I guess Of course - if it was easy, failed plumbers would do it for $3 an hour. Christian I have come to clean zee pooollll. - Michael Martin Dec 30, 2001 Picture the daffodil. And while you do that, I'll be over here going through your stuff. Picture a world without war, without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they would never expect it.
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I live in Bob's HungOut now
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Kannan Kalyanaraman wrote: Just out of curiosity, what makes you think Lotus Notes sucks... Simple observation. There are entire websites devoted to how bad the UI is, and it's just an unpleasant experience from start to finish. No product has any excuse for requiring training for a group of programmers to learn how to use it to read email. Christian I have come to clean zee pooollll. - Michael Martin Dec 30, 2001 Picture the daffodil. And while you do that, I'll be over here going through your stuff. Picture a world without war, without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they would never expect it.
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I definately agree. It's the weapon of choice for e-mail at my local college, and we all had a lot of fun laughing at it. - Jason SonorkID: 100.12194 :bob:'s your uncle
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COM is wonderful. I've been writing COM objects for about four years now. Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: I mean why did MS bother with .NET when they already had this COM thing? I mean, what's the bloody purpose! .NET is based upon COM, without COM then .NET wouldn't exist. Welcome to the COM club. I recommend you read Essential COM by Don Box and Effective COM also by Don Box and if you can find a video of Don Box's COM dance. Michael :-)
Michael P Butler wrote: .NET is based upon COM, without COM then .NET wouldn't exist Can you elaborate more on that statement? Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut
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Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: Christian Graus wrote: It was hell to get working though That's where the fun is I guess Of course - if it was easy, failed plumbers would do it for $3 an hour. Christian I have come to clean zee pooollll. - Michael Martin Dec 30, 2001 Picture the daffodil. And while you do that, I'll be over here going through your stuff. Picture a world without war, without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they would never expect it.
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****Christian Graus wrote: Of course - if it was easy, failed plumbers would do it for $3 an hour In Indian money that'd be a pretty decent amount of money :-) Rs 138/hr :-) Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut