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Why couldn't they choose another Polish pope? "Is the Pope German?" doesn't have the same ring to it... :rolleyes:
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:-D You'd think men of the cloth would be more considerate. BW
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Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger What's the reason for selecting a new name when you're elected Pope? He turned 78 on Saturday. Sigh. So we get to go through all this media rigamarole again in a few years, eh? Marc MyXaml Advanced Unit Testing YAPO
The first pope to change his name IIRC was a roman who didn't want to be pope with the name of a greek god (or goddess).
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I think the name is an indication of how they intend to rule/reign/lead . Benedict the XV was a moderate I believe, and so choosing that name indicates this Pope will be more moderate. This is an important symbol, especially given how John Paul was viewed at times as being too traditional. I'm not sure why they choose names, but I imagine it symbolizes moving into a new role and distinguishes a Pope further from the Cardinals. Marc Clifton wrote: So we get to go through all this media rigamarole again in a few years, eh? :-D Beats the hell out of the Capitol Hill bitchfest. BW
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-- Stewie Griffinbrianwelsch wrote: Benedict the XV was a moderate I believe, and so choosing that name indicates this Pope will be more moderate. :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh: You appear to not know about Ratzinger's background. Actually, rumour has it that he has chosen Benedict after Saint Benedict. http://www.osb.org/gen/bendct.html[^] John Carson
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Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger What's the reason for selecting a new name when you're elected Pope? He turned 78 on Saturday. Sigh. So we get to go through all this media rigamarole again in a few years, eh? Marc MyXaml Advanced Unit Testing YAPO
Marc Clifton wrote: He turned 78 on Saturday. Come on! They could not elect a 60 year old youngster! :~
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Why couldn't they choose another Polish pope? "Is the Pope German?" doesn't have the same ring to it... :rolleyes:
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I thought the saying was "Is the Pope Catholic?" rather than "Is the Pope Polish?"
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brianwelsch wrote: Benedict the XV was a moderate I believe, and so choosing that name indicates this Pope will be more moderate. :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh: You appear to not know about Ratzinger's background. Actually, rumour has it that he has chosen Benedict after Saint Benedict. http://www.osb.org/gen/bendct.html[^] John Carson
John Carson wrote: You appear to not know about Ratzinger's background I know nothing about Ratzinger, except that he's German and now Pope. The guess I gave was one given on the news this afternoon. John Carson wrote: rumour has it Clearly better than what I heard on TV. ;) BW
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I thought the saying was "Is the Pope Catholic?" rather than "Is the Pope Polish?"
"Opinions are neither right nor wrong. I cannot change your opinion. I can, however, change what influences your opinion." - David Crow
"Is the Pope Polish?" is an ironic version of "Is the Pope Catholic?" (because for a long time previously they were Italian). Over here you wouldn't hear the Catholic version.
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"Is the Pope Polish?" is an ironic version of "Is the Pope Catholic?" (because for a long time previously they were Italian). Over here you wouldn't hear the Catholic version.
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David Wulff wrote: Over here you wouldn't hear the Catholic version. Ahh, that explains the confusion.
"Opinions are neither right nor wrong. I cannot change your opinion. I can, however, change what influences your opinion." - David Crow
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David Wulff wrote: Over here you wouldn't hear the Catholic version. Ahh, that explains the confusion.
"Opinions are neither right nor wrong. I cannot change your opinion. I can, however, change what influences your opinion." - David Crow
Saying that... it doesn't come up very often but with the Americans I have heard using that phrase they've all used the Polish version. I don't know if it is linked to a TV programme or something like that?
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Audioscrobbler :: flickrDie Freiheit spielt auf allen Geigen
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Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger What's the reason for selecting a new name when you're elected Pope? He turned 78 on Saturday. Sigh. So we get to go through all this media rigamarole again in a few years, eh? Marc MyXaml Advanced Unit Testing YAPO
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Saying that... it doesn't come up very often but with the Americans I have heard using that phrase they've all used the Polish version. I don't know if it is linked to a TV programme or something like that?
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Frankly, i'd be amazed to find a significant number of people here who'd know that the pope *was* Polish... or even know who the pope was, for that matter. Guess i don't hang out with enough catholics. :rolleyes: Medication for us all You think you know me, well you're wrong
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The first pope to change his name IIRC was a roman who didn't want to be pope with the name of a greek god (or goddess).
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boost your code || Fold With Us! || sighist | doxygenI'm curious, which pope was that, and what was his name before the name change?
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Marc Clifton wrote: What's the reason for selecting a new name when you're elected Pope? And how come none of them ever choose the name "Judas"? :confused: :-D The generation of random numbers is too important to be left to chance.
FYI, "Judas" was not the name of the guy who betrayed Jesus. New Testament translators changed his name from the Hebrew "Yehuda" (Judah) to Judas so as to avoid confusion with Jude (recipient of one of Paul's letters, after which the NT book of Jude is named after), who was also named Judah. Of course, Judas wasn't the only recipient of a name change by translators. James, brother of Jesus and believed writer of the book of James, was actually named Ya'akov (Jacob) which is consistently translated as Jacob in the Bible, except in the New Testament where it's translated as James.
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I'm curious, which pope was that, and what was his name before the name change?
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thanks to the internet :) Mercurius (533-535), called himself Johannes II Octavianus, 955 called himself Johannes XII. Since 996, renaming himself became comonplace, only two did keep their name since. Article in German[^]
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I think the name is an indication of how they intend to rule/reign/lead . Benedict the XV was a moderate I believe, and so choosing that name indicates this Pope will be more moderate. This is an important symbol, especially given how John Paul was viewed at times as being too traditional. I'm not sure why they choose names, but I imagine it symbolizes moving into a new role and distinguishes a Pope further from the Cardinals. Marc Clifton wrote: So we get to go through all this media rigamarole again in a few years, eh? :-D Beats the hell out of the Capitol Hill bitchfest. BW
I want pancakes! God, do you people understand every language except English?
Yo quiero pancakes. Donnez moi pancakes. Click click, bloody click pancakes!
-- Stewie Griffin"Pope Benedict IX reigned from 1032 to 1044, in 1045, and from 1047 to 1048. He became Pope through bribery. He had sex with men, women and animals. He gave orders for people to be murdered. He also practiced witchcraft and Satanism. The citizens of Rome hated Benedict so much that on two occasions he had to flee from Rome. Benedict sold the papacy to Pope Gregory VI. As part of the deal, he continued to live in the Lateran Palace, with a generous income. Benedict filled the Lateran Palace with prostitutes." He's not being named after this benedict then :) Ryan
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FYI, "Judas" was not the name of the guy who betrayed Jesus. New Testament translators changed his name from the Hebrew "Yehuda" (Judah) to Judas so as to avoid confusion with Jude (recipient of one of Paul's letters, after which the NT book of Jude is named after), who was also named Judah. Of course, Judas wasn't the only recipient of a name change by translators. James, brother of Jesus and believed writer of the book of James, was actually named Ya'akov (Jacob) which is consistently translated as Jacob in the Bible, except in the New Testament where it's translated as James.
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No you're wrong, it's all true, every single letter of it, just ask any of millions of Americans, they will tell you the TRUTH, you're obviously some sort of shill for satan with this heretical nonsense! ;)
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Yeah... he makes good eggs! ;P Medication for us all You think you know me, well you're wrong
What exactly are egg benedict? (Forgive my ignorance, I've heard the name, I just have no idea what they are)
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What exactly are egg benedict? (Forgive my ignorance, I've heard the name, I just have no idea what they are)
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It's like a posh version of eggs and toast. You have toast topped with meat topped with poached eggs topped with hollandaise sauce (a sort of spicy, runny custard). It's good, though rich - i can polish off 3-4 eggs, and as many slices of toast and rashers of bacon in a meal without trouble, but a couple servings of eggs benedict and i'm ready for a nap. Here's a recipe (picked at random, i don't make these), if you're interested: http://holiday.allrecipes.com/az/EggsBenedict.asp[^] Medication for us all You think you know me, well you're wrong
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I think the name is an indication of how they intend to rule/reign/lead . Benedict the XV was a moderate I believe, and so choosing that name indicates this Pope will be more moderate. This is an important symbol, especially given how John Paul was viewed at times as being too traditional. I'm not sure why they choose names, but I imagine it symbolizes moving into a new role and distinguishes a Pope further from the Cardinals. Marc Clifton wrote: So we get to go through all this media rigamarole again in a few years, eh? :-D Beats the hell out of the Capitol Hill bitchfest. BW
I want pancakes! God, do you people understand every language except English?
Yo quiero pancakes. Donnez moi pancakes. Click click, bloody click pancakes!
-- Stewie GriffinThe name picking began when one cardinal who was elected had the real name (Justinian or something like that) of the then-reigning Roman emperor. So he wanted t pick a christian name to distinguish himself from the pagan emperor. And the practice became custom for subsequent popes. jah
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FYI, "Judas" was not the name of the guy who betrayed Jesus. New Testament translators changed his name from the Hebrew "Yehuda" (Judah) to Judas so as to avoid confusion with Jude (recipient of one of Paul's letters, after which the NT book of Jude is named after), who was also named Judah. Of course, Judas wasn't the only recipient of a name change by translators. James, brother of Jesus and believed writer of the book of James, was actually named Ya'akov (Jacob) which is consistently translated as Jacob in the Bible, except in the New Testament where it's translated as James.
Tech, life, family, faith: Give me a visit. I'm currently blogging about: He has a funny face. And he's my son. Judah Himango