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  • D David Wulff

    Had we? I didn't get the memo. :~


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    Paul Selormey
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    Sorry, I thought I sent you a copy. :^) BTW, did you receive the memo on the new changes in the VS.NET 2005 Team offerings? Somebody was listening :) Best regards, Paul. Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.

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    • P Paul Selormey

      Hmmm, have we not agreed C#/Java are for Web-related stuff? Best regards, Paul. Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.

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      Michael P Butler
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      Paul Selormey wrote: Hmmm, have we not agreed C#/Java are for Web-related stuff? Nope. C# is a wonderful tool for desktop software development. A little rough around the edges in places but does a wonderful job. We can't let have the web-heads have all the fun stuff. Michael CP Blog [^] Development Blog [^]

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      • realJSOPR realJSOP

        Looks like "managed code" has bitten the big one in Longhorn. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/05/26/dotnet_longhorn/[^] ------- sig starts "I've heard some drivers saying, 'We're going too fast here...'. If you're not here to race, go the hell home - don't come here and grumble about going too fast. Why don't you tie a kerosene rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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        Jerry Hammond
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        A quote from the article: "All of this points to the Managed Code API project being offshored to somewhere closer to Siberia, and more modest lock-downs, such as No Execute pages (due to appear in XP Service Pack 2) being promoted as a good-enough answer." Due to appear? :wtf: Beside this obvious hachet job, these folks can't even get their time line correct. Jerry Most people are willing to pay more to be amused than to be educated--Robert C. Savage, Life Lessons Toasty0.com Ladder League (beta) My Grandkids

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        • P Paul Selormey

          Hmmm, have we not agreed C#/Java are for Web-related stuff? Best regards, Paul. Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.

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          NormDroid
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          Paul Selormey wrote: Hmmm, have we not agreed C#/Java are for Web-related stuff? Whoops, better scrape the client/server system I writing in c#, errrm maybe I'll use C++. :omg:

          My Blog ^

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          • realJSOPR realJSOP

            Looks like "managed code" has bitten the big one in Longhorn. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/05/26/dotnet_longhorn/[^] ------- sig starts "I've heard some drivers saying, 'We're going too fast here...'. If you're not here to race, go the hell home - don't come here and grumble about going too fast. Why don't you tie a kerosene rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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            Mike Dimmick
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            Pure BS. Orlowski is quoting Mary Jo Foley[^] who knows damn all about coding. The ignorant press seem to have decided back around PDC'03 that WinFX is somehow a complete replacement for Win32. In ten years, maybe. Right now it just consists of Avalon and Indigo, with WinFS to be added after. Avalon itself uses milcore.dll[^] for rendering. I believe the Desktop Window Manager - desktop window composition - will actually be _un_managed, native code which uses the same rendering stack as Avalon. So there will be the 'managed', vector-based, stored-graph graphics model with Avalon. Alongside it will be the old, bitmap-based, demand-rendered model we're used to: GDI and GDI+. Don Box implies that[^] Indigo is all C#, very little of which is written with the unsafe keyword. Large parts of IIS 7.0 will apparently[^] be implemented in managed code. Stability. What an interesting concept. -- Chris Maunder

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            • P Paul Selormey

              Hmmm, have we not agreed C#/Java are for Web-related stuff? Best regards, Paul. Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.

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              Member 96
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              Surely you are being facetious.


              "A preoccupation with the next world pretty clearly signals an inability to cope credibly with this one."

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              • R Roger Wright

                Hmmm... At this rate, Longhorn will be reduced to Cheez Whiz by the time it's released. Boredom, Bull$^%&, Baggage, Bar - all start with 'B'
                Coincidence?

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                Mmmmmm....Cheez Whiz with peanut butter...mmmmm I better eat some breakfast soon.


                "A preoccupation with the next world pretty clearly signals an inability to cope credibly with this one."

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                • R Roger Wright

                  Hmmm... At this rate, Longhorn will be reduced to Cheez Whiz by the time it's released. Boredom, Bull$^%&, Baggage, Bar - all start with 'B'
                  Coincidence?

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                  Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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                  Roger Wright wrote: Hmmm... At this rate, Longhorn will be reduced to Cheez Whiz by the time it's released. You mean you've never heard of Windows CECW...? :~ Anna :rose: Riverblade Ltd - Software Consultancy Services Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.

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                  • P Paul Selormey

                    Sorry, I thought I sent you a copy. :^) BTW, did you receive the memo on the new changes in the VS.NET 2005 Team offerings? Somebody was listening :) Best regards, Paul. Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.

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                    peterchen
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                    where? I was fetching chalk


                    Pandoras Gift #44: Hope. The one that keeps you on suffering.
                    aber.. "Wie gesagt, der Scheiss is' Therapie"
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                    • J Jerry Hammond

                      A quote from the article: "All of this points to the Managed Code API project being offshored to somewhere closer to Siberia, and more modest lock-downs, such as No Execute pages (due to appear in XP Service Pack 2) being promoted as a good-enough answer." Due to appear? :wtf: Beside this obvious hachet job, these folks can't even get their time line correct. Jerry Most people are willing to pay more to be amused than to be educated--Robert C. Savage, Life Lessons Toasty0.com Ladder League (beta) My Grandkids

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                      Toasty0 wrote: A quote from the article: "All of this points to the Managed Code API project being offshored to somewhere closer to Siberia, and more modest lock-downs, such as No Execute pages (due to appear in XP Service Pack 2) being promoted as a good-enough answer." Due to appear? Beside this obvious hachet job, these folks can't even get their time line correct. I think you missed the important line right before the section you quoted: It's long been rumored as a casualty, as we wrote in May 2004 - Josh Find a penny, pick it up, and all day long you'll have a back-ache...

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                      • M Member 96

                        Surely you are being facetious.


                        "A preoccupation with the next world pretty clearly signals an inability to cope credibly with this one."

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                        Paul Selormey
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                        Thanks, just learnt a new word - facetious. Dictionary.com gave me the meaning :) Best regards, Paul. Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.

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                        • N NormDroid

                          Paul Selormey wrote: Hmmm, have we not agreed C#/Java are for Web-related stuff? Whoops, better scrape the client/server system I writing in c#, errrm maybe I'll use C++. :omg:

                          My Blog ^

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                          Paul Selormey
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                          If it comes under those catch phrases like "smart client", "remoting" then you need the C#. Best regards, Paul. Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.

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                          • M Michael P Butler

                            Paul Selormey wrote: Hmmm, have we not agreed C#/Java are for Web-related stuff? Nope. C# is a wonderful tool for desktop software development. A little rough around the edges in places but does a wonderful job. We can't let have the web-heads have all the fun stuff. Michael CP Blog [^] Development Blog [^]

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                            Paul Selormey
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                            Michael P Butler wrote: Nope. C# is a wonderful tool for desktop software development. That was our wish, until we realized that even Paint.NET could not be completed without uncountable P/Invoke and "unsafe" modes. When my "unborn child" asked what the gains were compared to writing the same application in WTL/GDI+(C++), I could not answer. If you have a software engineering explanation here you could help my child - her name will be Paula, hmmmm I need a wife. ;P Best regards, Paul. Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.

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                            • P peterchen

                              where? I was fetching chalk


                              Pandoras Gift #44: Hope. The one that keeps you on suffering.
                              aber.. "Wie gesagt, der Scheiss is' Therapie"
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                              Paul Selormey
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                              You need an oil paint, remember it is the era of the Avalon. Best regards, Paul. Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.

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