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    Lost User
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    For a change I'm not asking for help, this is a product that does what I want and hopefully others too. Inno Setup[^] is a nice installer that seems pretty flexible and easy to understand. It's free (although a donation is appreciated) and I was able to create my first install in 5 minutes. Elaine :rose: The tigress is here :-D

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      For a change I'm not asking for help, this is a product that does what I want and hopefully others too. Inno Setup[^] is a nice installer that seems pretty flexible and easy to understand. It's free (although a donation is appreciated) and I was able to create my first install in 5 minutes. Elaine :rose: The tigress is here :-D

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      Been using this for about 4 years now. Excellent little installer, and use it pretty much for everything. Would be great to see an MSI version, but that seems to be off the cards totally, as it would be too much work. Had a look at the Microsoft open source MSI xml thing on source forge, and it was just painful to even contemplate using.


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        For a change I'm not asking for help, this is a product that does what I want and hopefully others too. Inno Setup[^] is a nice installer that seems pretty flexible and easy to understand. It's free (although a donation is appreciated) and I was able to create my first install in 5 minutes. Elaine :rose: The tigress is here :-D

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        Tom Archer
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        Great recommendation. I've been using Inno for a couple of years now for all my software and it's a great product.

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          For a change I'm not asking for help, this is a product that does what I want and hopefully others too. Inno Setup[^] is a nice installer that seems pretty flexible and easy to understand. It's free (although a donation is appreciated) and I was able to create my first install in 5 minutes. Elaine :rose: The tigress is here :-D

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          Michael P Butler
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          Does it handle MSI's yet. Most of my clients deploy software via Windows Group policies, which needs an MSI to install the software. So I'm stuck using Installshield. Michael CP Blog [^] Development Blog [^]

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            For a change I'm not asking for help, this is a product that does what I want and hopefully others too. Inno Setup[^] is a nice installer that seems pretty flexible and easy to understand. It's free (although a donation is appreciated) and I was able to create my first install in 5 minutes. Elaine :rose: The tigress is here :-D

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            It *is* great for simple to medium complexity setups, I donated to the cause years ago when we used to use it for all our apps but about 3 years ago it was completely unable to handle complex installs that really required a scripting language and support for all sorts of third party components that needed to be included in our main product's setup. I think they have overcome much of those problems now with new features, but I'm incredibly happy that we won't need any kind of installer of substance for our .net business apps as we're writing them all so they can be basically copied to a computer and ran. There is an ultralight installer we're using but it's just the visual studio built in one now that .net makes 99.9% of all the installation nightmares we faced in the past completely redundant. [RANT] I would recommend INNO to anyone over InstallShield which is a reeking-bloated-smelly-rotten money grab application with more bugs than a bait shop which (in an ongoing blatant money grab) they almost always leave major bugs unresolved until the next major release requiring you to pay to get an upgrade to fix bad flaws. The company has the ethics of an eel and they are about as friendly to deal with as a porcupine. I truly came to hate InstallShields software and policies with a passion as you only can after having to deal with them through many years. We gritted our teeth and used it for many years because we had a setup so complex that we got to the point where we had to actually hire an installshield expert in Germany to write the setup script for it to ensure it worked perfectly. [/RANT]


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              It *is* great for simple to medium complexity setups, I donated to the cause years ago when we used to use it for all our apps but about 3 years ago it was completely unable to handle complex installs that really required a scripting language and support for all sorts of third party components that needed to be included in our main product's setup. I think they have overcome much of those problems now with new features, but I'm incredibly happy that we won't need any kind of installer of substance for our .net business apps as we're writing them all so they can be basically copied to a computer and ran. There is an ultralight installer we're using but it's just the visual studio built in one now that .net makes 99.9% of all the installation nightmares we faced in the past completely redundant. [RANT] I would recommend INNO to anyone over InstallShield which is a reeking-bloated-smelly-rotten money grab application with more bugs than a bait shop which (in an ongoing blatant money grab) they almost always leave major bugs unresolved until the next major release requiring you to pay to get an upgrade to fix bad flaws. The company has the ethics of an eel and they are about as friendly to deal with as a porcupine. I truly came to hate InstallShields software and policies with a passion as you only can after having to deal with them through many years. We gritted our teeth and used it for many years because we had a setup so complex that we got to the point where we had to actually hire an installshield expert in Germany to write the setup script for it to ensure it worked perfectly. [/RANT]


              "A preoccupation with the next world pretty clearly signals an inability to cope credibly with this one."

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              You really need to stop holding back ;) The tigress is here :-D

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                It *is* great for simple to medium complexity setups, I donated to the cause years ago when we used to use it for all our apps but about 3 years ago it was completely unable to handle complex installs that really required a scripting language and support for all sorts of third party components that needed to be included in our main product's setup. I think they have overcome much of those problems now with new features, but I'm incredibly happy that we won't need any kind of installer of substance for our .net business apps as we're writing them all so they can be basically copied to a computer and ran. There is an ultralight installer we're using but it's just the visual studio built in one now that .net makes 99.9% of all the installation nightmares we faced in the past completely redundant. [RANT] I would recommend INNO to anyone over InstallShield which is a reeking-bloated-smelly-rotten money grab application with more bugs than a bait shop which (in an ongoing blatant money grab) they almost always leave major bugs unresolved until the next major release requiring you to pay to get an upgrade to fix bad flaws. The company has the ethics of an eel and they are about as friendly to deal with as a porcupine. I truly came to hate InstallShields software and policies with a passion as you only can after having to deal with them through many years. We gritted our teeth and used it for many years because we had a setup so complex that we got to the point where we had to actually hire an installshield expert in Germany to write the setup script for it to ensure it worked perfectly. [/RANT]


                "A preoccupation with the next world pretty clearly signals an inability to cope credibly with this one."

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                I would really hate to hear your views on Crystal Reports then :laugh: OGR

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                  It *is* great for simple to medium complexity setups, I donated to the cause years ago when we used to use it for all our apps but about 3 years ago it was completely unable to handle complex installs that really required a scripting language and support for all sorts of third party components that needed to be included in our main product's setup. I think they have overcome much of those problems now with new features, but I'm incredibly happy that we won't need any kind of installer of substance for our .net business apps as we're writing them all so they can be basically copied to a computer and ran. There is an ultralight installer we're using but it's just the visual studio built in one now that .net makes 99.9% of all the installation nightmares we faced in the past completely redundant. [RANT] I would recommend INNO to anyone over InstallShield which is a reeking-bloated-smelly-rotten money grab application with more bugs than a bait shop which (in an ongoing blatant money grab) they almost always leave major bugs unresolved until the next major release requiring you to pay to get an upgrade to fix bad flaws. The company has the ethics of an eel and they are about as friendly to deal with as a porcupine. I truly came to hate InstallShields software and policies with a passion as you only can after having to deal with them through many years. We gritted our teeth and used it for many years because we had a setup so complex that we got to the point where we had to actually hire an installshield expert in Germany to write the setup script for it to ensure it worked perfectly. [/RANT]


                  "A preoccupation with the next world pretty clearly signals an inability to cope credibly with this one."

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                  You must admit that InstallShield is perfect at collecting the consumer surplus. I have yet to find another software that comes in a "Professional Standard" Version :rolleyes:


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                    Been using this for about 4 years now. Excellent little installer, and use it pretty much for everything. Would be great to see an MSI version, but that seems to be off the cards totally, as it would be too much work. Had a look at the Microsoft open source MSI xml thing on source forge, and it was just painful to even contemplate using.


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                    Gavin Greig
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                    There's also MAKEMSI[^]. I've never used either it or WiX (the Microsoft open source tool), so I can't make any comparison or recommendation. Gavin Greig "Haw, you're no deid," girned Charon. "Get aff ma boat or ah'll report ye." Matthew Fitt - The Hoose O Haivers: The Twelve Trauchles O Heracles.

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                      I would really hate to hear your views on Crystal Reports then :laugh: OGR

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                      I'm not a fan of CR for many of the same reasons, however with .net there are now excellent reporting components with light footprints that do the job nicely and don't have a outrageous license terms so it's something else we have dropped for new software.


                      "A preoccupation with the next world pretty clearly signals an inability to cope credibly with this one."

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