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    I am seriously thinking of buying the MSDN Professional subscription, as it is only $100 or so more than Visual Studio .Net Professional. I have not had any experience with the MSDN subscriptions, so I am not sure about this one point: When the subscription says that it includes Dev Studio .NET, versions of Windows, etc., are these actually full versions of the various products, or are they time-bombed or limited in some way? In other words, do I have to own VS.NET and WinXP to make use of the MSDN, or are the versions of VS.NET and WinXP included in the box fully-functional? Thanks! -- Paul "I drank... WHAT?"

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      I am seriously thinking of buying the MSDN Professional subscription, as it is only $100 or so more than Visual Studio .Net Professional. I have not had any experience with the MSDN subscriptions, so I am not sure about this one point: When the subscription says that it includes Dev Studio .NET, versions of Windows, etc., are these actually full versions of the various products, or are they time-bombed or limited in some way? In other words, do I have to own VS.NET and WinXP to make use of the MSDN, or are the versions of VS.NET and WinXP included in the box fully-functional? Thanks! -- Paul "I drank... WHAT?"

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      They're time-bombed. After a couple of weeks, they're made obsolete by the following beta. Of course, you know that their beta software isn't supported any better than their "release" stuff... "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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        I am seriously thinking of buying the MSDN Professional subscription, as it is only $100 or so more than Visual Studio .Net Professional. I have not had any experience with the MSDN subscriptions, so I am not sure about this one point: When the subscription says that it includes Dev Studio .NET, versions of Windows, etc., are these actually full versions of the various products, or are they time-bombed or limited in some way? In other words, do I have to own VS.NET and WinXP to make use of the MSDN, or are the versions of VS.NET and WinXP included in the box fully-functional? Thanks! -- Paul "I drank... WHAT?"

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        Anders Molin
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        It is full versions where you have a one-user license to use all the products for development... - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"

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          I am seriously thinking of buying the MSDN Professional subscription, as it is only $100 or so more than Visual Studio .Net Professional. I have not had any experience with the MSDN subscriptions, so I am not sure about this one point: When the subscription says that it includes Dev Studio .NET, versions of Windows, etc., are these actually full versions of the various products, or are they time-bombed or limited in some way? In other words, do I have to own VS.NET and WinXP to make use of the MSDN, or are the versions of VS.NET and WinXP included in the box fully-functional? Thanks! -- Paul "I drank... WHAT?"

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          Brad Bruce
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          They are supposed to be fully functional. I believe that the license is per developer. (You can have 3 OSs on 3 machines, but they can only be used by one developer)

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            I am seriously thinking of buying the MSDN Professional subscription, as it is only $100 or so more than Visual Studio .Net Professional. I have not had any experience with the MSDN subscriptions, so I am not sure about this one point: When the subscription says that it includes Dev Studio .NET, versions of Windows, etc., are these actually full versions of the various products, or are they time-bombed or limited in some way? In other words, do I have to own VS.NET and WinXP to make use of the MSDN, or are the versions of VS.NET and WinXP included in the box fully-functional? Thanks! -- Paul "I drank... WHAT?"

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            A word of caution. I have just found out that due to technical difficulties all MSDN subscription orders taken from at least January 29 have been lost in their system. No one has any idea when it will be fixed or even if it can be. So even if you decide to get it, you may not receive it. Another fine advertisement for robust, fail-safe software.

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              I am seriously thinking of buying the MSDN Professional subscription, as it is only $100 or so more than Visual Studio .Net Professional. I have not had any experience with the MSDN subscriptions, so I am not sure about this one point: When the subscription says that it includes Dev Studio .NET, versions of Windows, etc., are these actually full versions of the various products, or are they time-bombed or limited in some way? In other words, do I have to own VS.NET and WinXP to make use of the MSDN, or are the versions of VS.NET and WinXP included in the box fully-functional? Thanks! -- Paul "I drank... WHAT?"

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              One thing more about the license. The OSes can not be used in production systems. Thus you can't run your company network off the MSDN W2K server. Tim Smith Descartes Systems Sciences, Inc.

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                I am seriously thinking of buying the MSDN Professional subscription, as it is only $100 or so more than Visual Studio .Net Professional. I have not had any experience with the MSDN subscriptions, so I am not sure about this one point: When the subscription says that it includes Dev Studio .NET, versions of Windows, etc., are these actually full versions of the various products, or are they time-bombed or limited in some way? In other words, do I have to own VS.NET and WinXP to make use of the MSDN, or are the versions of VS.NET and WinXP included in the box fully-functional? Thanks! -- Paul "I drank... WHAT?"

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                Paul A. Howes wrote: When the subscription says that it includes Dev Studio .NET, versions of Windows, etc., are these actually full versions of the various products, or are they time-bombed or limited in some way? What you get is a license for each product included to use in a development environment. You don't have to own a copy to qualify. You cannot take, for instance, the Windows 2000 disc you get in MSDN and install it on a production web server which serves a live site. If your company is an MCP (Microsoft Certified Partner) then your MSDN is automatically upgraded to a base of 10 licenses for each product, and up to 50 for certain products. I totally recommend getting the MSDN subscription, it is the highlight of my month. I am like a kid at Christmas when the MSDN box arrives. Tearing it open and installing everything and anything new. :-D regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge Sonork ID: 100.9903 Stormfront

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                  One thing more about the license. The OSes can not be used in production systems. Thus you can't run your company network off the MSDN W2K server. Tim Smith Descartes Systems Sciences, Inc.

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                  but many do, the number of abuses of the MSDN licence I've seen over the years makes me wonder why Microsoft have never clamped down. Maybe that's what product activation is really for :-) Michael :-)

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